Hi there, fellow ambo's.
How many times can we be shafted? Ripped off pay wise, ripped off workload wise, under-staffed, over-worked, treated like shit in general by management, not looked after by the State Government, not to mention a piss-weak union.
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«Oldest ‹Older 4001 – 4200 of 5605 Newer› Newest»Looking at the people I work with I would say the majority of ambos are prepared to let someone else sort it out because they just have no idea of how any of it works. That is not being critical that is just stating a fact. I sometimes think I am beating my head against a brick wall trying to explain why we need to get out of the HSU. Then you have people like the person critical of EMPSA only having 220 members. You my friend are probably the reason we are in this mess and probably a manager and the reason why nobody above an SO can join. Well done to them for that. I can't think of a DO I would feed let alone trust to join me on the frontline. I know of one who just 2 years ago was an AO always in the shit and now he is one of their trusted DO mates. His day will come. 220 is a great number when you think that HSU used to have probably 10 times that much (not any more) and they still couldn't do anything worthwhile. Most just paid their money and hoped that they would support them when things turned sour. They may have had a lot of members but they were silent members. The 220 and there are more coming let me tell you are passionate about what they are trying to achieve. A HUGE difference. I have been accused of things I didn't do, I knew who did do what i was accused of but didn't put them in and went through the ringer (PSCU etc) with NO help from the HSU so don't think for one second that you can do your job say please and thank you not fuck up a protocol and not get dragged through the mud. In my case they plainly had the wrong person and I knew it but due to loyalty I took the bullet. I was able to prove in the end that I was innocent but it took me over 18 months and again NO help from HSU. I am convinced that EMPSA would not have let this drag on for longer than it took to prove I was innocent, about 1 week. Anybody who has been around this game long enough knows only too well that the HSU has taken more than call offs and late meals away over the years. There should be NO trade offs for a payrise. NONE. The only reason the svc and govt fuck with us is because they know we are a soft touch. We do care about our patients and we do worry what would happen if we walked off but lets face it we would only need to walk for 10 minutes before they would cave. We need a MASS MEETING just like Granville back in the 80's where we can take an overall vote on what to do. Everybody gets a say not some cloak and dagger meeting between so called representitives Invite the Roach and his cronies and tell them exactly what we are going to do and why and what date. No negotiation unless all c/offs l/m's and overtime is reinstated AND a wage rise is instigated forthwith. No HSU clowns (Williamson and his mates Tindale or numbers as he is known as, Baboon all trying to get their heads on the TV screen) none of that just do it but we will be walking on that date. Simple if we stick together. And yes lets stop bagging each other out. We are all in this together unless you are happy working for peanuts in which case go somewhere else with your anti ambo sentiment.
I wanted TURD to be the first thing you see.
At the top of the posting list.
God I am glad I don't have to spend a shift with you. What a wanker.
Your the wanker.
INEPT MORON
go and learn your protocols you fuckup waiting to happen,
leave the turd alone
Some pimply faced 14 year old geek keeps posting about TURDs and thinks foul language is the only way to get a misguided point across. If you don't have anything positive to contribute, then piss off!
Mass meeting? When and where? On the grass? Might as well, nothing has changed, nobody seems to care anyway. They'll care when they have to take themselves to hospital with a flail chest, pneumothorax, depressed skull fracture or fractured femur. They'll care when someone dies and it makes them look bad. They'll care when without a doubt, the reason we are on the grass is because some people in power would sell their soul for a dollar. Or more to the point, line their pockets with cash made by risking hundreds of members of the public's lives.
Why...are you doing this? Why? Isn't this blogsite big enough for all of us? What is wrong with you people? We could work together. Why be enemies? Because we're different? Is that why? Think of the things that we could do. Thank how strong we would be. You...and me...together. There is nothing that we could not accomplish. Think about it. Think about it. Why destroy when you can create? We can have it all. Or we can smash it all. Why can't we...work out our differences? Why can't we...work things out? Why can't we all just...get along?
Because some of you are nitwits…that’s why!!!!
DRUnk SPIDER
I fucking love the turd, so fuck yourself turd hater, the turd is the only thing I like anymore about my life. Leave TURD alone.
VAGINA hehehehehehehe
I post because I'm passionate about "real" Ambos not the aptly named "nitwits". I've admired "real" Ambos since I was a kid. Now I try my best to do my best. Why we keep getting the odd juvenile useless comments is beyond me. Why are there people that want to screw over Ambo's? Why do some "nitwits" think it's funny? All I want to do is my job, is that too much to ask? I work hard to do my best, even when deep inside I cant stand the person I'm treating - when I'm copping abuse from patients for no reason at all, I'm still polite and try to help. What did I do to deserve this? If any Ambo wants to stand together to build the Ambulance Service that the ASNSW should be, I will support them, no matter what. I hope you all would do the same.
Spider half these people here aren't ambo's and I think we can figure out who they are. Just ignore them in the future and maybe they will go somewhere else with their dribble.
Why can't we all get along?
Because you are all fucking wankers!
I hope you all wear yourselves out working your 20X2 rosters.
Go off on your D&D you have been paying in and not get a cent.
Then they can replace you with some decent folk.
The kind that holds the turd in the regard that it should.
INEPT MORONS
Spider et al, lighten up. You lot take things way too seriously. The turd is funny, emspa is funny, 220 is funny (whoever made the spartan analogy.......they lost). You boys and girls are gonna stroke out, give yourselves an ulcer, end up going postal or a combination of the three.
See you all at Al's retirement party.
Bwah hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
If you want to something then wright to Della Bosca,,,,
No 6 Meena Rd Woy Woy Bay NSW 2256,,,this is home address,why waste your time sending to his office?
send to his house and fill his letter box with complaints.You have a right to wright to the health minister so do it.
You have nothing to lose because you have already lost it,,
SO DO IT,,,AND DO IT NOW,,,OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE !!!!!!!!
boo fucking whooooooo is all we here, we do this we do that, we are the fucking best we are nice to people when we dont like them, boo fucking whooooo we are heros, triple zero heros, we deserve this we deserve that
fuck off
At a VERY recent HSU meeting they were discussing how they have lost 250 members,in the last few months alone........where do you think those members are going? But to be fair they did pick up 100 NEW members, all Trainees of course..don't worry they will soon learn.
To the person who can't spell "hear", why do you hate Ambo's so much? You can't possibly be one. You've got no idea.
I'm sorry, I can't spell becaus i never went to school and I never got an education enough so I got rejected when I applied to become an Ambo. Now I just read this blog day and night and bag real Ambos. Oh yeah fuck.
Go now loser and jump out your window. my probie needs a decent job. if your on the ground floor go to the nearest high place and jump from there. i'm just trying to help. believe me it's in your best interests.
Well that's the first thing in a long time that the svc has done properly and that is reject the illiterate bastard.
The times they are a-changin' said : HSU have lost 250 members ????
Mate, I personaly know one of the girls who up until recently worked in the HSU office UP until about three months ago, the number was over 450 then !! so if you add that number to this one... you are probably nearer the mark with about 800 people resigned !!!
NOT THAT MICHAEL WILLIAMSON WOULD GIVE A FUCK... WE ARE JUST NUMBERS TO HIM AND LIKE YOU SAID... HE WILL JUST SIGN UP A FEW MORE CLASSES OF DUMB PROBIES WHO DONT KNOW ANY BETTER AND ALL WILL BE RIGHT !
I called someone a "nitwit" today,which is a term I've never used before.....I think Spiders getting into my head.
so who is the arsehole who signs up the probies ar rozelle????
EMSPA should be there too to give a better idea of the right direction (i was going to say write, but i graduated primary school)
so do you think this prick/cunt REALLY believes in HSU or are they just scamming the money they get for the sign ups???
someone needs a thump methinks and it should be soon
why dont one of you guys who hang out at bullshit castle go see the probies and stiff the HSU hero who signs them up
all it would take is 2 minutes of the truth
but then, none of you give a fuck so why do i bother
go EMPSA!!!!!!!
To the blog above,are you a member of EMSPA? if so why don't you ask this question of the EMSPA execs IE can EMSPA speak to the Trainee classe to offer them an alternative to HSU.
Power tends to.....u know,
Re: I called someone a "nitwit" today,which is a term I've never used before.....I think Spiders getting into my head.
Ah yes the term “nitwit”, This literary treasure has been passed down from generation to generation of SPIDERS for as long as I can remember. Such passing down of special words has been formalised into a system whereby history, morals, values, prejudices, superstitions, facts, beliefs, and concepts of the previous SPIDERS is taught to the new recruits. Be careful how many time you use it my friend I have exclusive copyright. Anything over one hundred times and you will have to start paying me royalties.
Anywho…Has anyone found documents relating to how our delegates voted at the last State Delegates meeting?
As we all know what they vote for at these meetings and what they tell us is not always the same.
SPIDER
dear get committed..
gee i thought anyone could just kinda wander over and talk to the probies and warn them off HSU
but you are right, EMSPA needs to trap these kiddies real quick
surely someone at rozelle who is not sucking up to ol' crazy eyes can do the job ...
or is that just too much to ask
especially when there are so many fence sitters out there waiting for something (fuck knows what) to happen
why is this decision so fucking hard for God's sake
I'm sorry but 99% of rozelle staff suck O'l Crazy Eyes knob.
I would like to thump the fucker that signs the probies up, all for a week at sussex inlet here and there.
It will take the ambo's doing their inservice at the same time to talk to these probies.
Members are leaving HSU.
When I resigned early last year I gave them a written letter with 3 months notice, I got a response that they would wave that 3 months (and they did)
They thought they were being smart cunts, now try and leave HSU and they will do everything they can to delay or stop it, because the penny has dropped.
You will hear bullshit that they don't care if you leave, we were only a small membership to them Blah blah.
$1.5 million dollars a year they loose if we all leave.
They fucken care allright.
$1.5 million! Why are they (HSU) sitting on their hands and doing nothing then! C'mon HSU, you stuffed up, you fix it.
I and one of my workmates sent our EMPSA memberships off today so they now have 222 members and growing.
It's definitely more than 250. Thats in just 1 month.
$1.5 million is chicken feed,,,Williamson would spend that on a few lunchs.
they dont care so leave and be done with it.
I ask the question. What "is" HSU doing? In the time I have been employed with ASNSW there has only been a decline in pay and workplace conditions, isn't that what a union is supposed to prevent? You have quality legal representation with EMSPA if that is what you are worried about. If not, you could easily find even better legal representation yourself (you would just have to pay for it yourself too). Just a thought anyway. Keep fighting for better conditions whatever way you can I say. If you are one of those people "sitting on the fence", could you honestly tell me why? Are you happy at the moment? If you are not happy and you are not fighting for better conditions... WHY? We need unity to improve conditions for all. The faster you realize this the faster it will happen. And it is happening.
the new recruits get 3 months free membership!!!!! they have to give it away
why is the service so scared to let emspa speak to new recruits?
Who knows if the Service is scared, they haven't even acknowledged EMSPA exist....yet. As the numbers grow they will have to.
..you are right, they will have to...
yep emspa will fix everything.
220 oops 250
Bwah hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Within a week of operation, EMSPA NSW Inc. received a number of complaints from members relating to ambulance management intimidating crews for taking their unpaid meal break off the station. The new Award handed down by the IRC on 12 September 2008, stated at Section 20B (a) “The existing one hour unpaid meal break provisions will continue to apply until new rosters are implemented”. Ambulance employees, particularly Station Managers & Team Leaders have received intimidating phone calls & emails from senior management suggesting that it is inappropriate to be taking this meal break off station. In effect, it is being suggested that employees should not be accessing an Award entitlement. Due to sustained high workloads, paramedics have been accessing this Award entitlement simply to ensure they have an adequate break during their shift. Furthermore, the EMSPA NSW were advised that the Operations Centre was collating information on individual employees and whether or not they were making themselves unavailable during their lunch hour. It had been suggested by management that Officers whose names were on the list, “may not be eligible for promotional positions”. The behaviour of Ambulance management is not only unlawful; it is disappointing particularly after the recent parliamentary enquiry into bullying and harassment in the Ambulance Service. In response to the enquiry, the Health Minister stated in a media release on 20 October 2008, “I do not and will not tolerate bullying or harassment in any form”.
EMSPA NSW has sought legal advice on behalf of affected members and as a result, the Ambulance Service was contacted by Ffrench Commercial Lawyers on Monday 23rd March. In summary, our legal team have confirmed our position that per the Award our unpaid meal break is exactly that and employees
subject to this award provision are free to “do what they wish”. The Service has been put on notice that it is in breach of the ASNSW Code of Conduct by using such tactics to coerce employees into not accessing an Award entitlement.
Ffrench Commercial Lawyers have requested that the Service investigate this behaviour promptly in accordance with their responsibilities under the Code of Conduct.
It is interesting timing that on Friday 27th March, ASNSW attempted to expedite the introduction “new rosters” to remove the unpaid meal break, to take effect with only 7 days notice. It is clear that the Service’s view would be that this action would remove the unpaid meal break that currently exists and solve the problem of unfair and unlawful intimidation of staff who were accessing their Award entitlement to the break. As you will be aware this decision was overturned in the IRC yesterday afternoon. It is a pity that the Service have not been able to implement their new rosters, or even come up with a workable plan to implement them according to the timetable set down by the IRC. It is also disappointing that the Service removed ALL penalties associated with meal breaks as of 27 February despite a request for the “status quo” to remain in place that came from the Health Minister back in late September. This is also despite a statement from the Health Minister Mr Della Bosca on 19 February 2009, that new roster arrangements be “introduced sensibly and in consultation with our workforce”. It is the opinion of the EMSPA NSW Executive that a sensible approach would be for the status quo to be maintained until the full implementation of the new rosters. In such
a circumstance the current operational difficulties surrounding the unpaid meal break would simply not exist. If members choose to access their unpaid meal break and make themselves unavailable during their unpaid meal break, the EMSPA NSW Executive would like to remind members that you are deemed “off duty” and as such you must remember to secure your Ambulance vehicle and contents as such. We encourage any EMSPA NSW member continuing to experience intimidating behaviour from Ambulance management in relation to this situation, to contact the Senior RLO or any of the Executive committee. The Ambulance Service of New South Wales Code of Conduct provides a firm commitment to staff to eradicate this type of behaviour from our Service. EMSPA NSW will ensure that this commitment is adhered to for the protection of members.
Regards,
EMSPA (NSW) Inc. Executive Committee
To that Dipstick who is bagging out the numbers that have so far joined EMSPA. Well mate at least our numbers are increasing unlike your precious HSU. I bet we have over a thousand members within the year. At least we now have proper legal representation when management start playing their bullying games, unlike you and the rest of those that continue to pay into HSU. Have they ever addressed the issue of staff being bullied. Of course not-they have been very quiet in that regard. Oh that's right the management are in the union!!!!
And numbers are growing mate. We "the Ambo's" will decide when and what to fix. I don't know why you think you're Dracula or something though with all that laughing. Why don't you do something positive for Ambo's for a change.
Calling me dipstick.....I feel bullied.....I know, I'll join emspa, they'll fix it. I'll be 251.
Bwah hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
That guys lost the plot.
TODAYS SYDNEY MORNING HERALD !!
THE federal Labor MP and former union boss Craig Thomson faces allegations that his union credit cards were used to pay for escort services and to withdraw more than $100,000 in cash, as well as bankroll his election campaign for the central coast seat of Dobell.
Documents provided to the Herald show that Health Services Union officials concluded last year that union credit cards issued to Mr Thomson - and other financial resources - were used for election campaign spending. These had not been disclosed under electoral law.
Mr Thomson, 44, was the union's national secretary from 2002 to 2007 and is chairman of the House of Representatives economics committee.
The union officials also concluded that Mr Thomson's union Commonwealth Bank credit card had been used to withdraw cash advances totalling $101,533 during his five years as national secretary.
And the documents suggest the Commonwealth Bank MasterCard in Mr Thomson's name was used to make payments to operators of a Sydney brothel and two escort services as well as numerous payments to restaurants and bars and for purchases of personal items.
The allegations are outlined in a letter written by the union's national secretary, Kathy Jackson, to the law firm Slater & Gordon in December asking it to hire forensic accountants to examine possible financial irregularities during Mr Thomson's period in office.
But Mr Thomson, who was an HSU official for nearly 20 years before securing preselection for Dobell, one of the Coalition-held marginal seats Labor targeted in the 2007 election, strenuously denied the allegations.
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Have a guess where your $21a fortnight has been going for years !!! (HA) ( HA)
I bet bwah ha ha ha will be bwah ha ha ing when he reads this. Go HSU! Yep, they're a great union. Slater & Gordon will support Craig Thompson, but not a poor ambo charged with neg drive on a hot response.
...and people still support HSU???
I'll be resigning today. Should've done it years ago...
...it's off to EMSPA I go....
If your only resigning today you are a FUCKWIT.
Didn't take long for you to catch on, did it?
Bwah hahahahahahahahahahaha!
talk about waiting for a penny to drop.
FUCK ME
BYE BYE CORRUPT DELEGATES
BYE BYE HSU
BYE BYE GRAIG THOMPSON FUCKWIT
BYE BYE TURD
just kidding, the TURD's going nowhere!
Bwah hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Bwah hahahahaha Bwah hahahahaha
minnie me likes chocolate
scottie don't
Bwah hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
This shit has been going on for years... dont look suprised !
This is definately where all your money has been going.... and yet they failed to ever represent a single ambo.
To Bwah ha ha.
You Sir are a nitwit! (That's two now Spider, 98 to go.)
P.S. Two guys from my station sent in their EMSPA forms yesterday, so that's 253 isn't it . Get ready to keep counting,Bwah brain.
Now on this issue of Ambos getting charged with Neg Driving whilst on R1 cases what is ASNSW doing about it .........................Um ok How about HSU then.......................................I.see.......then I guess EMSPA aren't interested either....WRONG!!!! This new association formed BY PARAMEDICS FOR PARAMEDICS are getting stuck into it. EMSPA members have definately backed a winner.
Anyone charged on any offence while responding to an R1 should have it squashed. Mine did. Well after I threatened to take the svc to the media. If anyone gets charged it should be drive to the law and take it to thr media. We are covered for speeding and running red lights....right up until the point of impact....then look out.
Bubba's Boy! Mmmmmmm Thompson in the can! What a great thing. Take plenty o f Vaso and Williamson with him. The corrupt will fall! Man i am happy today.
you dont really think that thompson will get in the shit do you???
not with a state and federal labor govt he wont
they will cover it up just like all the others Iguana Joe and his missus included
Don't know' and don't care.As far as I'm concerned HSU is old news.I'll be using my $21-00 to fund my own hookers........or though the quality probably won't be very high
Cheap hookers, now that's funny.
Bwah hahahahahahahaha!
All this who har about Thompson using his credit card for brothels, restaurants etc. I support him 100% the poor little fellow. It must get really lonely there at the top and of course he is going to need some sort of release.
What’s wrong with working away that tension with the help of a hooker or two I say? Nothing wrong with giving the little bloke a run or enjoying a little oral pleasure, especially when someone else is paying for it.
Christ politicians have been doing this for years, it’s nothing new. And the restaurants….are you people crazy, of course he is going to get hungry and thirsty after a shag or two…..a man’s not a camel you know.
Gosh people are fussy.
SPIDER
P.S. Now we all know where our union fees have been going.
Has anyone heard about the 2 people from Coffs having their on call taken off them? WTF did they do to deserve that?
"2009" year of screwing the Ambo.
apparrantly someone called "000" 2 minutes and 9 minutes after they finished a call out, it was there fault they should have known another job was going to come in.
Funny how quick they despatch jobs at 1659 just prior to it being a recall to duty.
And how they hold 2A responses in the mornings to save a call out, even though its against the 2A cat of immeadiate response.
I love that the service is ignoring EMSPA's letters, fuck maybe you aint as powerful as you think.
250 members well fuck me that aint a majority, most of the people I know that joined EMSPA are still in HSU so HSU membership hasnt dropped too much.
Good luck to Thompson, by spending on whores he's helping the economy in this recession. Thought he would have used cash rather than card but I suppose sometimes you need to cum NOW!
If EMSPA doesnt accept rank above S/O why are two exec's CTO's wearing crowns. If push comes to shove they side with management everytime, pushing P1 morphine etc.
Love to know if the EMSPA execs played any part in their sub branches or just too fucken lazy to turn up then whinged when it didnt go their way.
Why does their letter to members talk about a bargaining agent in getting award changes if you cunts trade anything off in enterprise bargaining you'll fuck us all.
I think thompson will squeal.
He will take other fuckers down to try and prevent himself entering the bum factory.
He wouldn't survive inside, many labor portholes puckering today.
Bwah hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
pparrantly someone called "000" 2 minutes and 9 minutes after they finished a call out, it was there fault they should have known another job was going to come in.
So what is wrong with that.It happens all the time.
SO Anon at 2:27 you think HSU hasn't dropped?
Why were they talking about dwindling numbers at the delegates meeting? Why did the ANNUAL GENERAL meeting in my sub branch recently get 6 members at the meeting and 6 by phone conference. No I do not belong to HSU ditched it the day Paramedics NSW was launched.
Those two guys at Coffs, Hope they're in EMSPA for their sake.
The service can ignore EMSPA's letters all they want. I really don't care if they want to respond or not. They can't ignore a subpeona when our lawyers take legal action against the bullies. You're wrong about the HSU membership. It's leaking members at a rapid rate. Love our corrupt former HSU heavy-Classic, I hope he gets time for his errant ways. Another kick in the teeth for that corrupt union.
Roachford has done nothing about the bullying and harassment. Sure he runs respect courses and shit but the management bullies are not going to stop because they have done a fucking feel good course. He knows who the bullies are and the areas where the harassment is rife. I know for a fact this has been brought to his attention many times If EMPSA can prove an harassment case, just one case, one case where PSCU did nothing, then PSCU and Roachford are fucked for not responding appropriately. They will hang. With all the publicity recently one case is all it will take. Then it’s bye bye Roachford and bye bye whoever runs PSCU. Roachford needs to grow some nuts and sack these shitbags.
Roachford has done nothing about the bullying and harassment. Sure he runs respect courses and shit but the management bullies are not going to stop because they have done a fucking feel good course. He knows who the bullies are and the areas where the harassment is rife. I know for a fact this has been brought to his attention many times If EMPSA can prove an harassment case, just one case, one case where PSCU did nothing, then PSCU and Roachford are fucked for not responding appropriately. They will hang. With all the publicity recently one case is all it will take. Then it’s bye bye Roachford and bye bye whoever runs PSCU. Roachford needs to grow some nuts and sack these shitbags.
I hope they are in Empsa too and if they have done nothing wrong then every country ambo should refuse to do on call. Maybe they made a submission to the parliamentary enquiry. Wouldn't surprise me if it a payback.
I hear rochfords in EMSPA
We were allwondering a while back who would get their pic with the Roach at the big BBQ fundraiser. Well here they are straight out of Sirens,
A big thank you goes out to Greg's band of "Ready Steady" assistant chefs John Brotherhood, Stephanie Radnidge, Catharine Cameron, Joel Bardsley, Rick Newman and Peter Doyle.
SUCKOLES!!
Would someone like to explain a little clearer what the people from Coffs have supposed to have done wrong? The answer given was a bit vague to me.
they are all folk that will not be members of emspa
The award states that a call out is deemed to start when you tasked to a case. EG: coord ring you and tell you that you have a case at xyz and ask where you would like to meet you partner.
The callout is deemed to finish when all duties relateing to the case are complete. That is when you clear the hospital you are assigned to station and you are complete the case.
The road crews (us) believe the case is complete when we clear the hospital. Some people take the sign off time to complete the call out when they press the on station button on the MDT. Others call on the air stating they are now complete and ready to sign off. Then co ord give you a time and you are signed off.
The Service try to say that the case is not complete until you are back at your place of residence. That can be 10 minutes later, and there is no rule that says you have to go home. The service also believe we should return to station, put the paper work in the station sign the book and restock.
We say to the dick heads in management that is fine, but during normal on shift times they should stop calling us at the hospital for other jobs as we have to complete all duties for the job we are currently on before we are available for another job.
Theses guys I would assume click the on station button and then probaly got a phone call (the service allows Mobile phones as your primary on call number) tasking them to another job. The argument will be over. Are the officers signed off when they press on station. or are they signed off when they get voice conformation from ops.
Either way on call is a pain in the butt. Yes the money is good but the disturbance is fucked. And if the service wants me to go back to the station to sign off then they can stick the Ambulance up there arse, as I will no longer take a car home, I will get the job and drive my own car to the station, see how there response times are then. This wont be against the award as, if I choose not to take a car home the only thing it states in the award is that I am not allowed to claim KM on my private car at tax time.
And the service thinks off station for an hour has been a hassle wait till the on call guys start jacking up. Then there will be some fucking head aches.
Hope that makes is clearer.
Mr Thomson is accused of abusing his position as national secretary of the Health Services Union to bankroll his campaign for the NSW seat of Dobell, in a Fairfax Newspaper article.
Mr Thomson, 44, said late on Wednesday afternoon he was considering legal action against the source of the claims.
It is also alleged he used the union credit card to pay for escorts and restaurants.
The newspaper also cited union officials as saying Mr Thomson's union Commonwealth Bank credit card had been used to withdraw cash advances of $101,533 during his five years as national union boss
if the service didnt bye the phone,,,,dont answer it
can we sue the hsu for our money back?
class action against the hsu, give our money back and support emspa
Fucken oath, stick it to the mongrels.
Don,t take their stinking germ buggy's home anymore.
Fuck their response times.
Fuck Thompson while ya at it, mutt!
Fuck the suck holes who had their pictures with Crazy Eyes, they scraped the bottom of the barrel for that lot.
To anonymous at 9.19pm thanks mate. I wouldlike to know what was so bad that they have been suspended from doing on call. Yep I agree that if you have to be complete of all things to do with the job then that would be at the hospital. Bet that is not how they see it especially if the hospital is in another town but if that's the case and they get another job it should be a call out because otherwise they can't respond due to having to go back to their station to call off. I am glad I don't do on call. It is not worth the hassle. I bet they expect blood from a stone with it.
Fuck the suck holes who had their pictures with Crazy Eyes, they scraped the bottom of the barrel for that lot.
John Brotherhood. The biggest dill I ever had the displeasure to work with.
Can someone point me to a sops or whatever in regard to on call. I want to know what the service says about it as to where it starts and finishes etc and the taking home of a vehicle. I can't find anything in this new fucking layout they have now. Even sirens is too hard to follow for me. If I can legally tell them to shove taking their car home I will. Every man and his dog knows what you do for a quid when you are on call. Every drongo in town knows where you live all for a fucking dollar an hour. Fuck em.
(g) If an employee who is rostered on call is required to respond to a call, he or she shall be reimbursed actual fares or expenses incurred in travelling to and from work, unless a service 25
vehicle is provided for this purpose.
It doesnt say you have to take the car, it just says you wont be reimburesed if one is provided
I do on call and I have this argument with co-ord and the DO's all the time,I have even had the pay office refuse to pay a second call out because they were told (by co-ord) that I hadn't completed the duties associated with the first call out BUT I have NEVER had on-call taken or threatened to be taken away....some manager had it in for these guys in Coffs,unless there's more to this story than we're being told,they need to chase this up through EMSPA,and everyone get behind them..They are being bullied for sure!!
Yeah I agree.There must be more to it. Maybe they did something so shonky that it stood out like a pimple on your nose but maybe they didn't. I wish I knew the story. I think we need to know exactly what happened so we can support them as we all know if they can get away with it they will start picking on all of us.
The tele reported today that the corrupt union bloke has knocked up Reba's work mate. How incestuous are this mob. Thank god im supporting EMSPA.
Whoever wrote this is spot on the money...............well said
Roachford has done nothing about the bullying and harassment. Sure he runs respect courses and shit but the management bullies are not going to stop because they have done a fucking feel good course. He knows who the bullies are and the areas where the harassment is rife. I know for a fact this has been brought to his attention many times If EMPSA can prove an harassment case, just one case, one case where PSCU did nothing, then PSCU and Roachford are fucked for not responding appropriately. They will hang. With all the publicity recently one case is all it will take. Then it’s bye bye Roachford and bye bye whoever runs PSCU. Roachford needs to grow some nuts and sack these shitbags.
i gave the hsu 12 years of my money and i never got a rub and tug
The credit card statements also show:
* A payment of $330 in February 2003 to Aboutoun Catering of North Sydney, which is listed in the Yellow Pages as an escort service;
* Two payments of $570 and $2475 in 2003 and 2005 to "Keywed Pty Ltd Restaurant" in Surry Hills, a company listed on the internet as the payee for clients of the Sydney Outcalls Network, an escort agency;
* A payment of $418 in June 2005 to Nolta Pty Ltd, a company that South Sydney City Council records show operates Tiffanys brothel in Surry Hills.
The source of potentially serious collateral damage to Labor figures is a nasty battle for power in Mr Jackson's HSU No1 branch as he fights to win control from union president Pauline Fegan.
Mr Jackson and Ms Fegan have been brawling for weeks, making claim and counter-claim against each other about alleged misuse of unThe allegations against Mr Thomson were first detailed in a leaked letter written by Kathy Jackson, the HSU's national secretary and head of the union's No2 branch.
Ms Jackson's involvement further complicates the puzzle for the Labor Party and its involvement with the wrangle.
She is the former wife of Jeff Jackson. Her new partner is Michael Lawler, a vice-president of the Australian Industrial Relations Commission, whose industrial registrar is investigating Mr Thomson.
As news of the investigation sparked by Ms Jackson spread to embroil her former husband yesterday, Mr Jackson dismissed the claims against him as a politically motivated "dirty tricks campaign" and denied any misuse of union funds
Typical of the Labor party....... they seem to like going to strip clubs and getting drunk overseas while representing the country(Rudd), yell at waiters (dela bosca and Belinda O'neil), yell at flight attendants who are simply doing their job(yet another Rudd low point), get caught speeding(QLD transport minister..... setting a good example)......... and now we have Jeff Jackson misusing credit cards on hookers.
"Sooner of later the penny's going to drop for the Australian people that this is a dodgy crowd."
Yes the ambo's know this mob are dodgy that's why the smart ones are leaving in droves. Now does anyone here NOT understand why we got shafted in our wage claim.
Kevin Rudd took no action against Mr Thomson. A spokesman for the Prime Minister said Mr Rudd would await the results of inquiries before making any decision on Mr Thomson's committee role.
Why do the ambulance service suspend first and then wait until the investigation is over before usually finding in favour of the officer and re-instating him. By that time he will have lost thousands in pay and yet these corrupt bastards won't stand their people down until after an investigation.One rule for them and another for us as usual.
Lets get back to the topic of "ambulance" and our pay debarcle, please.
It is called enough is enough not Real Ambo Pay debarcle. The corruption of the union and the people who run it and the way they are protected by the current government and the way in which ambo's are treated by the service are real issues and as far as I am concerned and should be able to be raised here. if everyone else disagrees I will drop it.
Never said they wern't real and valid issues that need to be fixed, and do need to be raised here, I agree... but a very urgent and pressing issue at the moment that needs urgent attention, and that many officers feel totally in the dark about, is the issue regarding the fact that people are down $400 ++ a F/N. I suppose it does relate back to the corruption of the union though. Buggar it, maybe I shouldn't have said anything, we need to make sure we are not in this mess for any longer!
the labour party is nothing but a bloody mess.week after week its something new,,,yet nothing.
the sooner they go the better.
too right they have to go!!!
is there an ambo, nurse, doctor or anyone else in health who would vote labor EVER again?
I think not
I never voted for the bastards to start with. Even if I wasn't a wake up to their shenanigans, once they sent posters to put onto ambulances and wanted us to wear vote labour T shirts every Thursday they lost me. How dare they assume every union member is a labour supporter. Did they not think we thought they were doing a pretty fucked up job already. How many premiers have they had. I remember gay Bob telling us he would privatise us if we didn't life out game. Fuck him and the rest of his corrupt mates.
THE head of NSW Health has acknowledged that bullying and harassment in the ambulance service are such an issue that she has given an absolute assurance that significant changes will be made immediately to fix the problem.
The director-general of NSW Health, Debora Picone, told a parliamentary inquiry on the final day of hearings yesterday that she was "quite concerned about the level of psychological distress" expressed by officers.
The inquiry into the management and operations of the NSW Ambulance Service, which has focused on the issue of bullying and harassment, has been inundated with submissions of shocking allegations of abuse and violence. Officers had taken their own lives, it was told.
The public has been privy to only a small fraction of the evidence, because only a few officers spoke publicly - others feared retribution from the service.
The Herald understands that the committee had to make special arrangements so that officers did not cross paths with management when they arrived at Parliament to give evidence.
Professor Picone said she believed the bullying and harassment were "in pockets rather than widespread".
Asked by the chairwoman of the committee, Robyn Parker, MLC, if officers could expect "significant changes in the area of bullying and harassment", Professor Picone said: "I can give you that assurance, absolutely.
"My commitment to you is that … should you wish us to come back in 12 months' time, you will see changes."
The head of the NSW Ambulance Service, Greg Rochford, said he was deeply saddened by some of the evidence from officers. "I'm going to ensure that that situation is fixed," Mr Rochford said.
Bullshit Greg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeh .... then sack Pritchard, that would be a good start Greg. He is the biggest bully of all and if you wanted to canvas just a small pecentage of the staff then you would have all the evicence you needed to PROVE this fact.
Come on, I dare you ... email every ambo and ask them who the bully boys really are !
You will see the same half a dozen names pop up again and again but Pritchard will be the one you see the most !
ACT Ambulance have just advertised for their latest recruitment campaign. Get on it people, because here is a service that pays a professional wage and promotes above award conditions.
Exactly what the ASNSW cannot do.
Come and join us, you won't be sorry.
Does Ashley Manton still work there? We were gladto get rid of him. I don't want to start working with him now in my old age.
Pritchard-What an arsehole!!!!
I'd love to come across that prick outside of the job and let him know what I think of him.
He is the number one Bully for sure.
Pritchard is a mate of mine. Let me know what you want him to hear and I will pass it on. He doesn't check in here. He told me he doesn't have the time or inclination..Be careful of meeting him outside the job though and being all bravado. He is the strongest man I have ever met. I once saw him pick up an extremely large man under the armpits and sit him on a desk for a chat. You try doing that some time. The man is a killer.
Ha Ha Tha's funny
Would have loved to see it!!!!!
He's probably stroke out or go code 2 if he tried it.
how about you grow a pair and tell him what you think of him in work hours. All the gutless whinie bitches on this sight complaining about management being bullies. Stand up to them for fucks sake, tell em what you think and watch em back down. That's how bullies operate.
CALL OUTS: Well here we go the committee that had success in abolishing the meals for metro has come up with one proposal to restructure call outs. The proposal (one of) is that call outs will attract a single 4 hours pay (as it currently does) however you will be in effect the services for that four hours, you will be able to be responded to any case for no extra money in that 4 hour period. Should you get a call out at 2000 and receive another at 2350 you will exceed the 4 hour time frame but this will be an extension of the first one. So here we go again this time Country versus City I hope HSU does the right thing again and trades them off to even up the score.
PROQA: The time frame for proqa in regards to category 2 cases (2a b c) will be extended as from Thursday this week, this will have little effect and may benefit metro Officers, what it may mean that if you are stationed at Woolgoolga for example what would have generated a call out will now be done by say Coffs due to the extended time frame as a result call out will decrease in Woolgoolga due to the cases being covered by Coffs but may increase in Coffs. I hope the HSU does the right thing again to even the score and trades them off.
PROQA: The time frame for proqa in regards to category 2 cases (2a b c) will be extended as from Thursday this week, this will have little effect and may benefit metro Officers, what it may mean that if you are stationed at Woolgoolga for example what would have generated a call out will now be done by say Coffs due to the extended time frame as a result call out will decrease in Woolgoolga due to the cases being covered by Coffs but may increase in Coffs. I hope the HSU does the right thing again to even the score and trades them off.
Another interesting proposal is that: due to certain officers only doing one call out per night then playing the fatiuge card is that a seperate on call crew (maybe staffed by officers on their days off) do on call only i dont know how sustainable this would be
Another interesting proposal is that: due to certain officers only doing one call out per night then playing the fatiuge card is that a seperate on call crew (maybe staffed by officers on their days off) do on call only i dont know how sustainable this would be
Well ispose i only have had a pay cut of 10k per years some of these people will get 20-30k plus i dont feel so bad now anyway tough luck i say this is the price we pay for the piss weak union and the lack of unity
Unity. Does it not make sense? If we don't come together now and take some strong action, next thing we know, Johnnie's will be getting paid better than us. BTW what the hell are EMPSA or HSU doing? Both seem to have gone quite (not that HSU ever tells us much anyway). These organizations are the starting point for strong action in my opinion!
You Ambos talk about unity,,,well heres your chance to have total unity if you want it.
Join EMSPA,,,
talk is cheap,,,and thats all ive herd for some years,,,for what has been happening over the last 2 years i would of thought that every bloody Ambo would of been beating down the door of EMSPA,,,
To only have a small amout join is a joke.You are stupid,,,you have a chance to make a change for yourselves,but you all hesitate,,yet you all yell and scream when you lose something.
This loss of call outs in the country will happen,,,the wrighting is on the wall,,,and the city ambos will say"""you were told"""
I bet you all go crying to EMSPA though,,! and it will be all to late,,
see how smart you are then,,,,,you will lose alot more than 10k a year,,alot more and if think it wont happen,,think again buddys.
There are supervisers already at Rozelle working their wand,to make it happen in the very very near future,,,good luck living in some shithole,,where you didnt want to go in the first place but only did it for the money HA HA HA HA ,,,,,
Re KEN THE STRONG MAN ... Give it a rest you wanker, that prick probably breaks a sweat doing his pants up after a piss ! even a lightweight could sort that bully out.
A FACT the HSU has had only 15 members from ambulance sub-branches resign state wide.
You people are obviuosly all management fucks trying to stir up the shit.
Noone is leaving the HSU in droves. Fuck me my sub-branch has not had ONE person resign.
You are all full of shit.
As for losing call outs. Rural officers will not need our city counterparts to fight any threat on this. We will do it ourselves.
Of cause you havent lost any members because the country ambos came out in front with the last award.
But when they start to restructure your call outs then see how many are around you then.
They will want EMSPA to help,because the HSU has had this planned for so long,,,,do you think they are going to stand by you,,,have you forgotten that HSU is running the Svc.Williamson has to much at stake here mate,,,,you need to wake up and smell the roses,,,your dreaming if you think it wont happen to you and the country guys.
I cant wait to see you all crumble
let others come and do the call out I dont give a Fuck. Let them come up with the big ideas, overtime shifts go begging in my area all the time, they cant find anyone to cover the spare on call most of the time, the svc is fucked if they play with the oc
You get one call out a night you get a good pay. Any more than that and you pay it in tax. They keep me for 4 hours I return to station and wait there. If they think they are going to wake my family up for no extra money they better think again. When the 4 hours is up I will then go home and demand 8 hours rest before I start back again. No problem. Too easy. Plus I will leave the ambulance at the station and drive at the speed limit to get there before I respond. There response times will blow out more than they realise. For $1 an hour I think they get a good deal and I think they realise it.
Ken will get a laugh when I tell him all about the big brave man hiding behind a keyboard who reckons he could take him out. Boy would you be in for a shock.
pritchards nothing Loudfoot is the biggest harasser of all time. a right royal pommy prick. he has had so many complaints made against him it's not funny.the svc wont do anything about him because he runs a good budget and plus roachford is too gutless to take him on. everybody knows that.
It just shows you the caliber of INEPT MORON in this job.
"Ken's a strong man"
"you wouldn't say that to ken's face"
Fuck me, you live a sheltered life.
Ken is a useless fat fuck.
He has a fucking ugly missus and retarded kids, thats why he is a fuckwit on the job, the poor fat fuck has a shit life.
I have just been contimplating.
I think I prefer the look of a turd with a light dusting of peanuts throughout.
Now before you go off and complain about how fucking filthy and sick I am, just pause for a moment and think about it.
You know you have a look in the bowl after you have pinched one off.
All i am saying is that a turd looks more attractive with the contrasting light brown peanut flecks in it.
Am I right?
your right, you are sick, I had a laugh though
I thought I was the only one that looked in the bowl.
Sweet
Being a SCAT officer, I think I am somewhat of an expert on all things SCAT.
I also prefer peanuts in SCAT.
Thats another thing I can not get a hold of, being new in the job and all.
Why has one of our specialist groups named themselves after animal shit.
I was online chatting to a bloke in the USA who is a flight medic, I mentioned SCAT and the poor fucker fell off his chair in laughter and broke his wrist, poor prick out of work for 6 weeks.
True story
Thats' Gold!!! Would love to have been there to see it.
It is a pretty unfortunate name though.
It is a well known fact the likes of loudfoot, pritchard, dent are all under the table behind closed door stand over men who have harrassed, bullied and made many ambo's lives miserable.
I also know that Rochford is all to aware of these people and their attitude towards their staff, and is keeping a close eye on their behaviour. Rochford has the backing of the health minister and they both would be not game other than to rub these men out at a blink of an eye if they crossed the line. The media( 2gb )and ICAC, have been also made aware of these people who will keep an eye out for any indiscretions.
If you have a problem then do what others have and are still doing, keep a diary and get a good Industrial relations lawyer to take the ASNSW to the cleaners.
I wondered what scat meant.
So I googled it.
FUCK ME, who the fuck came up with that name.
It is a well known fact the likes of loudfoot, pritchard, dent are all under the table behind closed door stand over men who have harrassed, bullied and made many ambo's lives miserable.
I also know that Rochford is all to aware of these people and their attitude towards their staff, and is keeping a close eye on their behaviour.
BULLSHIT!
Pritchard is the golden haired boy as is Loudfoot. Have a look how many jobs Pritchard had created in Sydney for his mates. He is protected. Loudfoot has the best lurk going. A beautiful home overlooking the ocean. King of the castle. Bit different to old Blimey. He will never go and he is a young bloke so is going to be here for decades handing out his kind of justice.
I prefer my TURD with a splashing of fresh corn.
Yes Yes Yes
The good ol corn kernel.
Nice
If these people think they are not being watched then i will give it up. After the recent Parlimentary inquirey the NSW Gov has been made aware of these people, yet i cannot tell you why. True to my word the management of the ASNSW uniformed and non uniformed staff are under a close eye with all performance indicators regulary submitted to the NSW Health Dept.
If any management steps out of line with past indiscretions proven the shit will hit the fan. The media is just waiting to get something on these people including Rochford.
thats all well and good, but what is your preference on turd addative?
Some people like a strand or two of spinach evident throughout their stool.
What's yours?
A peanut corn mix has got be the one I reckon.
True to my word the management of the ASNSW uniformed and non uniformed staff are under a close eye with all performance indicators regulary submitted to the NSW Health Dept.
I hope you are right mate.
I am against spinach completely, I find it altogether quite disgusting.
Now a can of baby beets before bed will give you a nice pink sheen to the toilet water, and a bit of a pucker until you remember the baby beets, and realise your not really bleeding to death.
TO THE ANON POST AT APRIL 12TH 6:10
"A FACT the HSU has had only 15 members from ambulance sub-branches resign state wide."
THERE'S BEEN 7 FROM MY STATION ALONE,FROM A TOTAL OF 11
"You people are obviuosly all management fucks trying to stir up the shit".
NOPE, JUST A ON ROAD AMBO SICK OF HSU INACTION
"Noone is leaving the HSU in droves. Fuck me my sub-branch has not had ONE person resign".
AT THE LATEST DELEGATES MEETING HSU SPOKE ABOUT 250 MEMBERS RESIGNINGING IN THE PAST 3 MONTHS.
"You are all full of shit".
AM NOT
"As for losing call outs. Rural officers will not need our city counterparts to fight any threat on this. We will do it ourselves".
NO WONDER YOU SUPPORT HSU,DIVIDE AND LOOK AFTER YOURSELF, SOUNDS HSU TO ME
Here, Here. And Here, Here to anyone who is taking action. Unity is what we need, and unity is what HSU never offered.
the one thing we all have in common is
TURD
NO ONE is leaving HSU!!!! You are dreaming. I know of plenty and yes that issue of rapidly dwindling numbers has been spoken about at the delegates meeting. Someone at my station the other day rang up HSU to resign and they heard the call taker sing out "we've got another one leaving".
It's taken awhile for the penny to drop for some but finally people are waking up and seeing that HSU is just a sham.
I got yet another letter from the HSU asking for back payments even though I sent them a letter of resignation some months back. I rang them and actually got to speak to a lovely young lady who said she couldn't find my letter but that she would send me a resignation form in the mail which i got today. Sje asked me who I was with. When I said ambulance she chuckled and said 'oh another one eh'.
In 1885, someone, a great Australian, a Goodchap set up a service in NSW that ensured basic medical treatment could be provided to ill or injured employees of the NSW Railway Department and members of the public. The first recognized Ambulance service in NSW, known as the civil Ambulance and Transport Brigade (which became the Civil Ambulance and Transport Corps. after amalgamation with St John Ambulance brigade in 1904), was established in 1895. In 1941 the rescue service commenced operations when members of the "CDA" in Sydney used a specially designed rig to recover the body of a woman from the bottom of a cliff at South Head, due to environmental conditions, among other factors, police officers were unable to recover the body. The event heralded the first recorded time members of a NSW emergency service using specialized equipment for a rescue or recovery. Shortly after, Ambulance officers, often needing to extricate patients from mangled car wrecks before being able to do much else, identified a need for rescue equipment to be stored in AMBULANCES. In 1976 ALS and IC vehicles commenced operations.Initially intended for cardiac cases and inter-hospital transfers of "seriously ill" patients. The television show "Emergency" depicting American Paramedics changed the public perception and expectation of what a "Paramedic" was. "Paramedics" were required to learn improved patient care knowledge, 61 protocols (P1 now has similar, but more advanced), 18 pharmacologies (P1 now has 25) and 31 procedures (I'm not counting the current procedures we have).
For the majority of time, the role of an Ambulance officer can be routine and monotonous, but Ambulance Officers must also attend any number of critical medical emergencies at a moments notice. Most Officers in the job, who have had these experiences, and have stayed, pride themselves on being calm, professional and efficient. On taking control during chaos. They "want" to be there, on the spot, and be actually able to provide help, calmly and efficiently. A person who can do this, despite everything else that is going on, stays in this job. (I make this a point because it is these people who have and are being taken advantage of by a number of scumbags in upper ASNSW management, and the government). Often times, ordinarily, witnessing/involvement in such incidents for most individuals can be distressing and life changing. As Ambulance Officers are "human beings" after all, there can be times when an officer feels inadequate, angry, frustrated and helpless, despite experience, skill and knowledge. It can be certain that an Ambulance officer will be witness to the end of many lives. It is also certain, that a dedicated and motivated ambulance officer, who is looked after by their employer, will prolong many, many more lives.
You don't need a bloody resignation form. Just write to them and tell them you resign effective immediately.
One day you dipsticks will realise what an opportunity you have NOW to make a difference. It's a simple choice...if you want to keep feeding the labour party go right ahead. I never have and never will. Now I have joined an association that is here for ambo's...to all you morons who have been brainwashed by Michael Williamson and his band of cronies...I actually feel sorry for you...so stand back and have a good long hard look at yourselves....PLEASE!
And give yourselves a fucken uppercut
fair fucken dinkum
INEPT MORONS
Hello Ambo's
I am starting my medical rapid responder course in 2 weeks and just wanted to say hi, it will be good to catch up with a few of you at Rozelle.
B.Barton
NSWFB
Welcome Officer Barton. It will be great to have you on board. I will be the one driving you in my private ambulance because the way this state government selling everything off it is obvious we will be next. They will use the fire brigade to do all the serious stuff just like in America and they can also do rescue and probably give them a gun too they can be the police as well.
You don't need a bloody resignation form. Just write to them and tell them you resign effective immediately.
One day you dipsticks will realise what an opportunity you have NOW to make a difference. It's a simple choice...if you want to keep feeding the labour party go right ahead. I never have and never will. Now I have joined an association that is here for ambo's..
Hey fuckwit I said they sent me one I didn't say I was sending it back. I sent a letter of resignation 4 months ago and haven't paid a cent to them since.
Are any of you people on the EMSPA site yet ?
I dont think you need waste any time here any more.. that is where it is all happening and all the upto date news is.
Of course nothing wrong with dropping in here once in a while, its really funny i must admit but if you really want to know whats going on and what progress is being made, make you are a member of EMSPA so you can get onto the forum ( very very interesting ).
Unles they discuss turds on the EMPSA site, I ain't going
The last poster is right EMPSA is where the action is. If you are a member of EMPSA make it your mission in life to recruit more members. Call at least one ambo a day and tell them about the new way ahead.
Probably the best way to sell it is just say that management above the rank of S/O are not allowed to join EMPSA. This is unlike the current corrupt and biased system we have at the moment where we have senior management in our union (HSU) with us.
Ambos with half a brain will know what’s best for them and where to go.
SPIDER
C'mon spider, if ambo's had a quarter of a brain we wouldn't be in this predicament.
C'mon spider, if ambo's had a quarter of a brain we wouldn't be in this predicament.
Exactly and that is why we need to be in EMPSA so they can guide them.
As soon as i get my sign in details I am there.
..."C'mon spider, if ambo's had a quarter of a brain we wouldn't be in this predicament."...
I keep trying to remind people that Ambo's are not the kind of people who are focused on these types of issues. The kind of person who desires to become an Ambo, and remains an Ambo, is "people focused" and wants to help "people", complete strangers, often at the cost of their own quality of life. This is all they should have to be concerned with. Ambo's are generally very intelligent people, they just have no idea when it comes to bullshit politics. That is why they need managers to LOOK AFTER THEM. Something which ASNSW has ridiculously failed. Shame on you Roachford, shame on you Willis, and shame on you anyone who calls themselves a "Divisional Manager", because you forget, it is your personal responsibility to look after the guys and gals who turn up each and every day to look after someones mum, a war veteran, someones son, whomever, maybe even you. And worst of all, most of them would still try their best when it comes down to it, if it were you, despite massive feelings of distrust and anger, after the bullshit you have either made happen or allowed to happen. Ambo's have a brain, they just use it for the good of others, rather than themselves. Remember that.
Oh ans I suppose you were one of the ambos that voted no industrial action for loss of meals and call offs.
If you are a bushy I wonder if you will take the moral high ground and vote to loses you call outs.
Come on idiot,,,,we need to pay our bills,Iam not doing some bloody charity work.I do like to help the public,,,but not at the cost of my health and well fare of my family.
Oh and make sure you dont put you time sheet in either,perhapes you would send me some of your pay to top up mine.
WANKER!!!
emspa people
400 members and counting
That's helpful. To answer your question's... No, I strongly support strong action regarding loss of wages, call offs, late meals, I even attended/wasted my time expressing this at union meetings. I am a metro Ambo, strongly against rural Ambo's losing ANY CONDITIONS OR WAGES. My posts are an effort rally support to improve the conditions and wages of Ambo's state wide. I want to do anything I can to stop the shit that is going on now. Unlike you, who seems to cut in at any time someone tries to post something positive. Perhaps you should look in the mirror when you call someone a wanker. What help was your statement?
See you were all wrong about Ol' Crazy Eyes.
PUBLIC SERVICE MEDAL (PSM)
383
Mr Gregory John (Greg) ROCHFORD, Allambie NSW 2100
For outstanding public service in the management of the NSW Ambulance Service.
Mr Rochford has made an outstanding contribution to the development of more efficient emergency services in New South Wales. While Chief Executive Officer of the former Far West Area Health Service, Mr Rochford showed strong leadership in addressing the health needs of a sparsely distributed population. His key achievements included the introduction of a primary health care model as a fundamental shift from the traditional structure of service delivery, and the establishment of a working partnership with Aboriginal communities. As Chief Executive of the NSW Ambulance Service since 1999, Mr Rochford has had a central role in reforming and reshaping the Service. A man of vision dedicated to sensible change to meet the challenges of the future, he has steadily improved organisational capacity, performance and patient care. His extraordinary ability to drive change and to navigate a direction for the Service has produced benefits for the many stakeholders. His extensive experience and analytical approach have been invaluable in the development of humanitarian disaster response, influenza pandemic planning, and planning to deal with the consequences of terrorist attack. A true professional, Mr Rochford is highly regarded for his wise counsel and strong leadership.
Good on you mate. I agree totally. We would even treat correctly Eyes or Willis if we had to because we are dedicated, most of us anyway. I can tell you though I am not doing mouth to mouth on Peter Pilon when he eventually goes down. That I can assure you.
Pilon hahahaha that is priceless. Can't get the tears out of my eyes. I know someone who onc saved Sam Smith when he collapsed. Can you believe it SAM SMITH!!!!
how the fuck did the eyes get a PSM.
Every ambo should write a letter to the attorney general, or what ever fucked government department hands that shit out.
this is bullshit.
I would like to pin a turd to the fuckers chest.
The same way statistics mysteriously get skewed in favour of better performance data. Lies, lies and more lies, bingo, someones pinning a medal I don't deserve on my chest. I don't believe in hell.
Hows this, was informed yesterday from an Ambo in Sydney East that stations such as Randwick will not allow EMPSA info packages or anything related to EMPSA on to the station premises. The staff have been told that Randwick is an HSU station and it will not support EMPSA under any cicumstances.
It was also stated that the ASNSW has no affiliation to EMPSA hence also the reason for the banning of EMPSA info.
Could somebody in the Syd East area be able to confirm this.
that doesn't surprise me.
No shortage of brown nosers in the east
So they'd rather pay into a union that has done absolutely NOTHING for them. How stupid!!!
Their loss.
stupid is as what stupid does
I am going to call everyone from the east I see from now on
"FOREST"
Thats funny
The GUMPS from the East.
If lifes like a box of chocolates, you fuckers from the East are peanuts.
Chololate coated ENEPT MORONS.
actually talking about peanuts
TURD comes to mind,lol
Fuck east bunnies have always thought they where a cut above the fuckers. I might even put in for a transfer to randwick just so I can join EMSPA ha ahahha the fuckers, bring it on lesbians
The East has a huge following for EMSPA
This turd talk is childish but I must admit that this
"I would like to pin a turd to the fuckers chest".
cracked me up.
your right with that lesbian call,
What the fucks with that?
Why such as dense gathering of lesbo's in the east?
I thought you lesbo's were supposed to be independantly strong.
Why do you need to huddle in masses like weak fuckers?
I say spread your lesbo wings and get into the other suburbs, don't limit your exuberance to the east.
Or are you all a bunch of back stabbing trouble makers that think your shit don't stink and you need fellow lesbo's to watch your back?
either way it is a FACT that lesbo's are selfish fuckers so I am not suprised you only look after yourself in this job.
Another fact,I am yet to see an attractive lesbo in this job, why does this svc attract all the fucken ugly ones. Have you any consideration for my fantasies.
NO, because as I said your fucking selfish.
I have never been interested in TURD talk but some of this posts crack me up too.
who are the call takers all over the news? thankyou peter payne for laying the blame on them and not the services lack of resposibility
who are the call takers all over the news? thankyou peter payne for laying the blame on them and not the services lack of resposibility
I'm suprised that the tapes didn't mysteriously vanish or get erased.
I suppose they would have if it had implicated a manager!!!
Fuck that, i would love some SO tell me that i could not bring EMPSA material on to the station.
It is your democratic right to do so. Be interesting to see whether HSU will back the move to ban EMPSA considering its core business is protecting workers rights including freedom of speech.
Since when does HSU hold the monopoly, i would like to hear other wise.
Just another feather in the cap for EMPSA, i am sure Fair trading and the IRC would have a different view on things.
Because they have been informed.
lesbians shit dont stink but the douche bags fucking smell fucking rancid. But oh how they turn me on.
This site is the funniest fucking thing I have ever seen on the net.
rancid, thats a fucken choice word.
I am going to use it as many times as I can tommorrow.
lol
"Another fact,I am yet to see an attractive lesbo in this job, why does this svc attract all the fucken ugly ones. Have you any consideration for my fantasies.
NO, because as I said your fucking selfish."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
who are the call takers all over the news? thankyou peter payne for laying the blame on them and not the services lack of resposibility
I reckon the Payne was pretty fair. He basically said that it was wellknown that at the time some call takers were fucked or words to that effect. Trouble is Pete you are in charge. If you knew they were fucked why didn't you do something about it or were your arms tied by Pritchard and on up to the Roach. I have always found Peter Payne to be an alright bloke. He is a very experienced person although not an ambo's arsehole. At least he wore the uniform not like that other smiling. nodding idiot who works part time for Century 21. PP should be the boss. I have got dirt on all those bastards. Fuck with me and I bring out the films lol.
Co-ord fucken useless.
Forget they wear the same uniform, they fucken drop the ball all the fucken time and make us look bad, they will stab you in the back as quick as look at you.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/lost-in-the-blue-mountains-triple0-operator-uncaring-20090416-a84z.html?page=1
“This was despite a similar incident where people needed rescuing from another remote location. Counsel assisting the inquest, Jeremy Gormly SC, said the report into that incident, in November 2007, revealed similar failures, with the operators again focused on a street address. "It clearly showed that our operators ... did not have the experience to deal with those type of calls," ambulance call centre manager Superintendent Peter Payne said. The call taker's demeanor appeared to be quite uncaring, not responsive to the information that was received and the distress that was evident from the call Supt Payne said”
The comments from co-ord “sarcastic”?, from what I have seen that really is debatable but then again you would have to listen to the tapes carefully to be sure. I know lots of ambos who use all sorts of techniques to obtain important facts from patients who won’t give up information for whatever reason, particularly important information.
And this thing about the operators being focused on a street address. As I see it if they didn’t know where their patient’s location was is in the bush, and they couldn’t get that information, of course the name of the street that their patient used to get into the bush in the first place is going to be important.
And shouldn’t repeated 000 calls from the same caller be referred to whoever was in charge that day. My bet is the operators involved would have asked for advice from the co-ord supervisor that day but that information is being kept quiet to protect that manager.
It also seems someone might be trying to take the attention away from themselves. Who is responsible for insuring that the protocols co-ord uses reflect operational issues like this one. This is especially relevant to this case after a similar incident one year before. Maybe whoever is in charge of Co-ord overall? Is that you Peter?
Some even want to blame Rochford as usual but I’m sure he doesn’t write co-ord’s protocols nor does he write ours. Payne did us no favours with his well-publicised blame-game comments today.
I smell a rat.
SPIDER
Yeah and I bet a million bucks they were civilians too. Ambo's understand that the bush don't have streets in them. Are they serious when they say that they were fixated on getting a street name as required by their training. You mean to tell me that they don't have a seperate set of questions for people lost in the bush? Get the civilians out of the control room and get real ambo's back in there for christ sake. I worked in Quay st co-ord for 6 years back in the olden days and we always found our patients and all without the you beaut electronic shit and MDT crap that certain bosses have actually won awards and gotten overseas junlets for. Do you think it is a great system that works? Obviously it doesn't and WE are the omes who wear the bad publicity for it.
Oh I have a million things I could say over this but I am keeping them to myself as insurance.
I hope the call takers are in the HSU. I am sure they will look after them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA plonk!
That was the sound of me laughing my head off.
Hey Spider my guess is after all this turd talk it isn't a rat you are smelling.
Re: Get the civilians out of the control room and get real ambo's back in there for christ sake.
you only get ambos in the control room when their back goes dummy
the reason they employ civilians is not just cost cutting, it's because they cant get any of you lot to go work there
and now it's so technical you cant just wander in holding your lower back screaming give me a job !! like you used to be able to do
and before you bag the shit out of the ops centres go work there for a year or two and then make a comment
All this shit is covering up for a manager i bet you.
Yeh, shit on the poor call taker... let them take the rap !
As for you stupid people at Randwick not allowing EMSPA on their station, you need to wake up and take a look out the window
" there is a HUGE freight train coming, its gaining speed every day and its loaded with with a cago people dedicated to helping ambos, not the labour party "
SO WATCH OUT !
Hsu wrote in their submission to the ARIC:
PARA 1 and 10 What fucken liars these cunts are
AUSTRALIAN INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS COMMISSION
Workplace Relations Act 1996
s. 576(e)(1) – Procedure for carrying out award modernisation process
IN THE MATTER OF:
AM 2008/13 – HEALTH AND WELFARE SERVICES (EXCLUDING SOCIAL AND COMMUNITY SERVICES)
EXPOSURE DRAFTS ‐ SUBMISSION OF THE HEALTH SERVICES UNION
General Comments
1. The HSU submits that the making of a modern award should not disadvantage workers.
2. The HSU submits that a modern award for Health should take the form of an industry hybrid modern award being made that will hav application to all health workers and health occupations. This approach was advanced by our union late in the pre‐drafting consultations for Stage 2.
3. The HSU opposes the making of a Nursing Occupational Modern Award and a Medical Practitioners Occupational Award.
4. The HSU submits that an award provision for Ambulance Services be included in a health industry hybrid award.
5. The HSU submits that the provision for an accrued day off for full time workers and standard rates of pay for Saturday and Sundy work should be part of a modern Health award. In addition the HSU submits that Sleepover provisions should not be included in any health modern award.
6. The HSU submits that provisions for ceremonial leave should be included in a health modern award.
National Office
208‐212 Park Street, South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205. Telephone: (03) 9341 3328 Facsimile: (03) 9341 3329
Email: hsu@hsu.net.au Website: www.hsu.net.au
7. The HSU submits higher qualification allowance should be maintained in modern awards.
8. The HSU submits that Trades people should be entitled to tool allowances regardless of their trade.
9. The HSU submits that default superannuation schemes listed in Health modern awards should include Health Super.
Disadvantaging workers
10. The HSU considers that provisions of the exposure drafts will, if implemented, disadvantage employees. We note that this is inconsistent with paragraph 2(c) of the Minister’s Award Modernisation Request. The HSU is opposed to removal of award provisions if that will disadvantage employees. Whilst transitional provisions may protect some employees, removal of award provisions may still disadvantage others. We are also conscious of the comments of the Full Bench that the number and type of transitional provisions are better dealt wth after consideration of the net impact on current terms and conditions flowing from each draft modern award [2008] AIRCFB 717 at [31]. The HSU will elaborate on its concerns at the consultation stage.
Health Industry Hybrid Modern Award
11. When this matter was before the Commission in Melbourne on 3 and 4 December 2008, Commissioner Smith raised for consideration whether the Commission might make a Health Industry Award with occupation based clssification streams. That model will be referred to herein as the “industry hybrid modern award”. The HSU submitted a supplementary submission (HSU Supplementary Submission, 14 January 2009) that proposed a move away from a number of industry awards and occupational awards, as proposed by a number of parties, to one industry hybrid award that would apply to all health workers and the health system. We submit that this is the approach that the Commission should adopt when making a Modern Award for Health.
12. The making of one health modern award along the lines of what we have proposed, will ensure that:
a. every worker knows the relativity of their classification compared to other classifications ;
b. classifications are not duplicated in multiple awards;
c. all health workers are covered by a modern award;
d. similar classifications are streamed;
e. employers and workers have just one document for all minimum wages and conditions for health workers regardless of where they wrk.
13. The industry hybrid award proposed, detailed a classification system that outlined seven occupational streams:
a. Support;
b. Care;
c. Technical;
d. Administration and Management;
e. Medical/Dental;
f. Health Professional;
g. Nursing.
Nursing Occupational Exposure Draft and Medical Practitioners Occupational Exposure Draft
14. The HSU submits that the “Nursing Assistant” in the Nursing Occupational Exposure Draft should be deleted. It would appear that this classification is similar to an entry level position in some hospitals and it is infrequently used. It is not a care role requiring the skills of a personal care worker (PCW), personal care assistant (PCA) or an assistant in nursing (AIN). We submit that this position should be removed from any health award, especially a nursing occupational award, on the basis that its application is limited.
15. The rates of pay for nursing assistants are significantly lower than a personal care position in the other Health exposure drafs. For example; an entry point for personal care workers would be as an Aged care employee – Level 3 ($630 a week) in the Aged Care Industry Exposure Draft and Support services employee – Level 3 ($630) in the Health Professionals and Support Services Industry and Occupational Exposure Draft compared to the Nursing assistant raes of $596.10 to $616.90. The keeping of this classification or an alternative such as an AIN, will see employers classifying workers to a cheaper classification rather than one in a different award that may be far more apropriate to the work being undertaken.
16. We advance similar arguments regarding the classification of student enrolled nurse.
17. We have previously submitted that the inclusion of an AIN, as well as a PCW/PCA, would create an unworkable situation because:
a. Those classes of workers are amongst the most numerous in the industry, and in particular, in the aged care sector of the industry;
b. There is no clear distinction between the roles. This fact is relevant in two ways:
i. First, the creation of two named roles covered by separate awards would be productive of argument and confusion about the precise clasification and coverage of a worker performing such tasks; and
ii. There is no imperative to deal with those workers in separate awards because there is no history of those workers having differnt award conditions, and no rationale based in their work for making such a distinction.
18. The HSU submits that nursing assistants, AINs, PCW and PCAs have similar entitlements that are distinctly different from nurses. For example, annual leave entitlements have always been more generous for nurses than their unregistered colleagues.
19. The HSU submits that if a nursing occupational award is to be made, then the classifications should be limited to Division 1 and 2 nurses and enrolled and registered nurses and midwifes.
20. The HSU submits that a Medical Practitioners Occupational Award should not be made. Medical Practitioners are one of the smallest professional groups within the Health Industry and as such should not be consideed for making an occupational award. Medical Practitioners should be included in a single health industry modern award or at the very least included in a health prfessionals industry and occupational modern award, alongside dentists and other health professionals. Profession specific conditions could be included within either a single health industry award or a health professional’s awardcovering medical practitioners.
Ambulance Services
21. It appears that Ambulance services have dropped off the list for Stage 2 and Stage 3.
22. The HSU has previously supported the making of a separate Ambulance Service Modern Award. Our position has changed as we believe that Ambulance Services should be included in a health industry hybrid modern award as roposed by us in our earlier submission of 14 January 2009. This will bring all health workers into the same award. Ambulance Services could be accommodated in their own stream in a single health industry award.
23. Whilst we see no reason why Ambulance services cannot be dealt with in Stage 2 under Health, if it is not, then we request that it be dealt with separately in Stage 3 and not in conjunction with police services, fire fighting or emergency services.
Accrued Days Off (ADO)
24. The HSU submits that an entitlement to accrued days off for full time workers should form part of the safety net for any modernhealth award. We propose that the ADO clause in the Aged Care Industry Exposure Draft become the standard ADO clause. This clause reads:
i. This clause will only apply to full‐time employees.
ii. Where an employee is entitled to ADO, in accordance with the arrangement of ordinary hours of work, as set out in the ordinary hours of work clause, ADOs will be taken within 12 months of the date on which the first full ADO accrued.
iii. Where an employee’s employment terminates for any reason, accumulated ADOs will be paid to the employee at ordinary rates.
iv. The taking of an employee’s ADO will be determined, by mutual agreement between the employee and the employer, having regard to the needs of the place of employment or sections thereof. Such ADO will, where practicable, be consecutive with the rostered days off provisions or in conjunction with a rostered break in the employee’s work cycle. ADOs will not be rostered on public holidays.
Standard Rates of Pay for Saturday and Sunday Work
25. The HSU submits ordinary hours undertaken on a Saturday attract a rate of time and a half and ordinary hours worked on a Sundayattract a rate of double time as opposed to those rates that are proposed in the health exposure drafts.
Sleep over
26. The HSU submits that Sleepovers are not a standard part of health operations. Sleepovers are more commonly utilised in the operations of disability, welfare or community services. We note that these industries are scheduled for Stage 4 and we contend that Sleepovers belong in Stage 4 not Stage 2 modern awrds.
Ceremonial Leave
27. The HSU submits that a modern award for the Health Industry should contain provision for ceremonial leave along the lines of:
“An employee who is legitimately required by Aboriginal tradition to be absent for Aboriginal ceremonial purposes shall be entited to up to ten working days unpaid leave in any one year, provided leave is granted with the employer’s authority.” [Health Services Union of Australia (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health Services) Award 2002.]
Higher Qualification Allowances
28. The HSU submits that higher qualification allowances should be maintained in a modern Health award. If the Full Bench is not of this view, then we submit that
higher qualification allowances should be maintained and not cease before 31 December 2014.
Tool Allowances
29. The HSU submits that all trades people, regardless of their trade, should be entitled to tool allowances. The Exposure drafts limit the payment of tool allowances to chefs and cooks. Traditional building trades workers in health would not be eligible to receive a tool allowance when they supplied and are reqired to use their own tools.
Superannuation
30. The HSU submits that if there is to be a nurses’ occupational award, clause 20.4 of the exposure draft should name Health Super Fund. Health Super Fund is a very large industry superannuation fund to which many nurses, particularly in Victoria, belong. The HSU understands that the Victorian Hospitals Industrial Association agrees that Health Super Fund should be named in any nrses’ award. Accordingly the inclusion of Health Super Fund is consistent with paragraph [29] of the Full Bench decision [2008] AIRCFB 717.
Health Services Union
12 February 2009
nd now it's so technical you cant just wander in holding your lower back screaming give me a job !! like you used to be able to do
To the fat cuntroller, yep so technical that you can't find a kid lost in the bush. Spoken like a true civilian call taker.
All civilians should on taking a call from a person who appears to be lost or perhaps what apperas to making a hoax call should have to hand the call over to a professional ambulance officer who knows what they are doing. Are there any left in the control room, um sorry the Ops centres.
Anonymous, (Sorry about the late reply)
Re: I keep trying to remind people that Ambo's are not the kind of people who are focused on these types of issues.
I think honest ambos have the ability to be more than just honest ambos. Ambos are street wise and very savvy so do not underestimate them. They just haven’t had an avenue to organise themselves properly to date. I believe everyone has become so accustomed to our union management relationship and heirachy that nobody questions it because it has been going on for so long. Management in our union? Are you guys crazy? The exact words I used when I joined the service many years ago. Management uses our union, as paying members themselves, to accommodate their own agendas and priorities, and the fact is they have the clout and they have the power and influence not us.
It would be a little naive to think that no one has ever complained about the way we get treated by the management/union bullies, “the old boys club”. The surveys, investigations and inquiries are all examples of our collective protests over the years. The thing is it is such a difficult circumstance to change. How can it be improper when it seems to have been acceptable to just about everyone including the IRC for so long?.
And seriously have a look at our sub-branches. They have no idea how to organise together, they vote against each other and are guided by some with their own agendas generally to further their own pathetic careers. Honestly most sub-branches couldn’t organise a fuck in a brothel with a fist full of fifties.
We need management out of our union and the opportunity to be represented by an organisation with our interests ONLY in mind. EMSPA has given us all that opportunity.
Take that opportunity or be condemned to re-live the past.
SPIDER
Yep if we don't get behind EMPSA and end up stuck with the HSU then we only have ourselves to blame and god help the lot of you who still have lots of years left to go in this once great job. I myself will be sitting back with a beer in my hand watching you all get privatised by this fucked up labor government and their corrupt cronies. EMPSA RULES.
Today I spoke to a crew on the north that called off for code 20 and were given a time. They then said that they were off station for their break and were told by coord that they couldn't do this due to a new SOPS which did not allow both crews on a station to be unavailable at the same time.
This is unlawful!!!! I can assure you that EMSPA would haul the service over the coals for this.
I hope they do. See the Ops staff want to be part of us but then won't stand up to the bullies in charge when they are told to do this to the road crews. No balls. Too busy now trying to make sure nobody else dies out in the bush I suppose. Hell you don't even need to be in the bush. In Fairfield a bloke got stabbed and they wouldn't send the car that was 2 minutes away because they would have incurred a penalty. It is a joke. Bloody civilians. Bad enough we have to deal with the idiots on the road now we have them running our control rooms too.
News In,
Willamson has signed off on the next pay rise,,,2.5% in June 09.
Also Call outs for the bush will be restrutured in June/July 09.
So no more 7hrs pay per call out anymore.
Iam happy to trade Call outs for the bush for 4% or 5% in pay packet each fortnight.
I wonder if the city and central coast will get the chance to screw you blokes out in the bush.
"Oh what a feeling" "No Call Outs."
Re the last post
How do you know about this? None of this has been discussed. If this is true it just goes to show how pathetic HSU is!!! Williamson has no right to make decisions on behalf of the ever dwindling HSU members without their consultation.
If this goes ahead it's further proof of the need to ditch HSU for EMSPA.
Mate we don't care what the city and central coast do. We are all gown up here in the bush and can take care of things ourselves. One call out a shift is all we need to make great money. There is call outs going all night and day where I work. Too many. They fuck with me I fuck with them. I don't take a car home and I get my 8 hours between jobs. Too easy and we will all do the same. Ok so just to prove you aren't some kind of shit stirring manager point me to where you got your infoamtion so I can confirm that I am wrong and you are just a trouble maker.
That is a load of BULLSHIT. Fuck off ya mongrel dog and take ya fucking rumours with ya.
I tell you who the fucken mongrel dogs are:
FUCKEN GUTLESS OPERATERS
that won't stand up to the bullies in co-ord, would rather stick to the road staff and say they had no choice.
FUCKEN GUTLESS
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