Hi there, fellow ambo's.
How many times can we be shafted? Ripped off pay wise, ripped off workload wise, under-staffed, over-worked, treated like shit in general by management, not looked after by the State Government, not to mention a piss-weak union.
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5,605 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 3401 – 3600 of 5605 Newer› Newest»I guess Spider your one of those who like to talk.
the HSU has been talking for many years and what did it get us
loss of pay,,,
loss of conditions,,,
loss of sanity,,
loss of ambos lives,,
to take one day off (27th)wil be in respect for the ones who took their lives through the actions(lack off)from the svc,
I suggest all,because if for one day it makes you feel good ,just bloody do it.
Thats right.
The diplomatic softly softly approach certainly did work for us.
I am another NO SHOW on the 27th
go and take a day off you dumb fucks. the irc ruled that theres no industrial action, if double the average amount of sickies go on the 27th, thats industrial action wether you organise it or the union does, go on do it, you dumb fuckers, see what happens on the news that night when our pay is cut to last septembers rates and we still get the fucked up rosters. Sit at home feeling good about yourself, I have taken a stand yeah it will be make all the difference.
your a fuckwit. And full of shit.
fuck you roachford idiot, i am off too.
What! are you a manager or something fuckwit?
Try and prove its industrial action.
What a load of shit.
And yes I will feel very GOOD sitting at home knowing that the wheels have fallen off.
And I couldn't give a fuck what the public or the news says about it.
NEWS FLASH dickhead. They all think we are SOFTCOCKS anyway.
Now off you go MR AMBULANCE and suck Willis's tiny one.
fuckhead the irc will prove it, make sure you go and get a certiicate from your doctor
Have just spoken to two more who definately wont be in for work on the
27th !
Thosse of us calling in sick why don't we call an ambulance to take us to hospital for a medical cert, just like the rest of NSW? When they ask if im completely awake or am i breathing normally, i won't know so i get a car quicker!
Why are the country rescue blokes still doing rescue? How come they haven't told the service to stick it up their arse in protest. I would be telling them to get the FB to do it if they are so good at it. Oh yeah that's right they are only retained in the country aren't they. Well stiff shit rescue bored.
Doctors certificate is the go.
Its easy.
Doctor I feel so crook in the guts, I have just recieved a paycut of up to $500 a week on average, I have all these bills etc......I have been up all night vomitting with worry.
You wouldn't be telling a fucken lie so DO IT, 27th OFF.
Take the day off said.......I also think it is great idea. 27th is good for me and i will also be asking the others at my station to do the same. I'm sick of being in a position, where i feel helpless. Oh i feel sick enough to have a week off.
Make them suffer,
Re: Soft Cocks
Look at me, look at me. What an impressive command of the English Vocabulary you have. A true wordsmith if ever there was one.
Maybe we could exchange emails and I could come around to your place?
You could give me a quiz at your cherished Bunderburg Rum Ute that is full of a variety of emptied beer cans. You could even loan me your bestest Hustler magazine. Maybe you would even attempt to impress me with your collection of photographs that resemble male and female genitals.
Whatever the case, there is no doubt in my mind that meeting you would be a extraordinary experience.
Nitwit.
SPIDER
Or how about I just cave your Fucken head in hard cunt!
I believe that the majority of posts on this forum seem to be of a genuine and concerning nature, there are as always posts that are purely antagonistic however the facts that have progressed us to this outcome / outcomes are unequivocal, from the commencement of dialogue between the parties the HSU always advised its members to be compliant with all IRC instructions, where has it lead us? Loss of meals / call offs, a roster proposal that provides a further loss of wages and annual leave etc.
The last State delegates meeting saw the division once again of its members and Sub branches as you all will be aware the vote to implement some form of action was 10-4 against. The service has once again achieved its outcome thanks to its own staff.
In relation to the “day off” on the 27th sick leave is an award entitlement is very difficult to prove that its some form of action. What will happen if it’s considered such? Nothing we have nothing left to trade off or provide in closing thanks to the HSU for my pay cut (on an award that took some 4 plus years to ratify, CPI was at 4% during this time so I lost 16% even prior to starting) thanks for the new rosters which will extend my working hours by 64 hours of 16 weeks and this is being implemented on a fatigue based argument? Thanks for my forced annual leave which now means if I wish to go on a holiday in the summer with my kids I must wait till 2013, and finally thanks for giving up the rescue, THANKS HSU FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
You wont have to worry about hurting the public,if we all take a sickie on the 27th,from what I hear the new probationers that will be entering our workforce over the next 12months will do it for us,and even on a bigger scale.
Apparently one who gets to the interview is not asked any relevent questions about why they wish to be an Ambo,,,,,all they are asked is,,,,can you start on this date!,,,next interview please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my advise is dont train a probie if you can help it,,,,because any problems you are going to be the one to blame,,,,we all no how it works.
Fuck me, I can't stop pissing myself.
I heard that someone sent Roachford a TURD in a medication bag.
And they keep sending him tea bags.
That is FUCKEN FUNNY.
I am off 27th
From Saturday, if meal pens do go for good, everyone pls go off station for code 20 for your UNPAID 1hr lunch break. Put your feet up and REST before the next R7 comes down the shute, its been tough for everyone recently -ICP's this action includes you too!
There is no “fixing” the problem as the situation stands at the moment. Unless uniformed management suddenly withdraws from the HSU, our union right?, this new association will go ahead. It probably will anyway.
Ambos are not stupid, most now know something dodgey is going on, I’ve known it for years. The old boys club is about to met it’s end.
Withdraw management from our union now before HSU loses any credibility it has left. It’s only a matter of time before the media picks up on this.
Hundreds and hundreds of ambos declaring their union is a sham and corrupt will have an impact, don’t be that naive to believe it won’t.
Remember, we are the most trusted profession.
HSU you have been warned!
anonymous 1:37,
It wont matter if management leave the HSU,Williamson wont fight for anyone,when are you going to work it out.
He is a Labour puppet,he has far to much influence in the Svc and is far to close to Greg,he has put to much time into his own career and all his Trustee positions to fight for anything or anyone!
Its time to move on from the HSU,join the new association,make sure managers are not allowed to join,and then hope to god they will do somethink.
move on!!!!
all you hear is that HSU is a sham and currupt, everyone is for themselves. So if you all think they are corrupt, put some evidence on the table. Come on stop pissing around and put the hard evidence on the table. I would like to see it. Just because we lost in the irc doesnt make everyone currupt you. Its like school ground shit here, dont like the decision so piss your pants and goe home, fuck I am laughing my head off.
Wouldn't take much to laugh it off, sounds like its the size of a pin.
OL' PIN HEAD.
Go suck a delegates yellow sausage.
Anonymouse,
Re: doesnt make everyone currupt you……so piss your pants and goe home
Very elequently said you. I pissed myself and my head fell off too when I read your post you. Obviously one of our Charles Sturt ambos?
Turn your gaze oh enlightened one to:
http://www.paramedicsnsw.org.au/
http://www.paramedicsnsw.org.au/
http://www.paramedicsnsw.org.au/
Your questions will be answered there you.
SPIDER
this site should be sent out as a morale booster, it cracks me up these comments.
the pin head comment, fucking classic
I loved it too, It is a good laugh if anything this site.
The turd sent to Roachford also appeals to me in a sick sort of way.
Not so much the turd but the look on his face when he got it would of been gold.
Those OL' Crazy eyes near would of popped out of his head I reckon.
" thats not what I think it is, is it?"
Then I reckon he would of took a sniff to confirm, what do you think?
Picture that little ferets face shrivel up as he cops a lung full of mr hanky's best perfume"
I woke up last night for a piss and pissed all over the floor because that image popped into my head.
Fuck, i haven't laughed so much either. Go the turd, what a crack up. Keep up the good work, turd man, you are gold.
Re corrupt union, Idiot, you don't have to be real smart to work out the union is a joke and represents us very, very ordinary. Second rate appearance at the IRC Joke hearings. Why don't you just piss off. The sooner we all get the hell away from types like you the better off we will all be. Piss Off.
You are all a joke and an embarrassment to the good genuine hard working men and women of this service. Your foul comments are not indicative of the real ambulance service and all I can say is thank god for that. If you lot put the same amount of time into the job as the crap you post here we would all be better off.My bet is most of you aren't even real ambo's at all. Disgusting.
Fuck off you piss weak moron, go and vote to NOT take industrial action again
I would just like to make a comment about the personal attacks that are made when people post on this blog.
I FUCKEN LOVE IT.
Keep up the good work
Turd Man. I vote for turd man to represent us, and turd just between you and me
I love you
Anyone who doesn't have a giggle about the TURD is just downright un-Australian
Hsu is having another meeting this week with management re the proposed new 16 week rosters.
JUST WATCH THOSE BUDDYS WORK TOGETHER TO BRING IT IN AND FUCK US ALL !
You know the bit that really shits me .... we never even had a chance !
Children. That is what we employ now. Children. What a shame.It used to be such a great job. People hiding behind a blog. I would defy anyone to talk to me face to face they way the little kids here talk. Like a bunch of 12 year olds. No wonder the service treat us like idiots.
If you think that MOST of the blogs here are a waste of time (and quite frankly I do)log onto "www.paramedicsnsw.org.au" and have input into some constructive debate, give input and get ready for a change for the better.
Anyone know how the south and east voted today @ hurstville?
They (HSU, led by the soft cock north) will all vote this crappy 16 week roster in ... just you watch.
In a way, im glad, because when they do, it will be the final proof that the HSU and our managemnet are one ! ( if you need anymore proof that is )
Come on,
Don't knock this blog, where else would you have found out about the TURD?
The TURD is our salvation.
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form.”
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One confirmation email!!!!!!!!!!!! Is all it will take you knuckleheads!!!!!!. Anybody told you service emails are monitored, obviously not. It even says it on the bottom of every email you nitwits!!!!.
I thought you guys were switched on. Have you bothered to read the last Parliamentary Inquiry? Remember the little bit about bullying and harassment? The Old Boys Club etc etc etc etc etc. That report was produced only from those who were game enough to speak out.
What a wonderful list of names you will provide them with. I wonder how many suicides through harassment and bullying you will produce with this little blunder. Fuck me!!!
My advice to others is to CONSIDER VERY VERY CAREFULLY about registering. I know how the old boys net works in this service. I lived through it and can say from experience it’s one hell of a ride, As we all know some of our colleagues failed to weather the storm and have left the service one way or another. R.I.P
Be advised these pieces of filth will stop at nothing to try and maintain their control of HSU and the service. Remember ladies and gents management are in HSU with us. Paying members just like us. But unlike us they control the game especially the big plays. Who do you turn to when you are out ranked in your own union and in the organisation you work for. Ever heard of the term “cut down in the crossfire”
SERIOUSLY BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIDER
Furthermore
You need to write or meet with Rochford and ask for a guarantee that these so called confirmation emails are kept strictly confidential.
That is the only way I would ever join.
SPIDER
Spider.
Who have prven beyond reasonable doubt you are a FUCKWIT.
A solution comes along that can unite and inform every officer and you are already out to ruin it with your Watergate Bullshit.
There is nothing the asnsw can do to you for supplying your email address.
I urge you to look up the Workplace surveillance act.
And for fuck sake get yourself a ticker, the whole idea of uniting is to show the service if they fuck with one of us the fuck with us all.
Get some NADS or fuck off.
Furthermore.
LONG LIVE THE TURD.
If I find out who sent it to him he wouldn't buy a beer all night.
Yellow Spider,
Nads, nads?, no one I know uses that term, not in this country anyway. The word is balls my dear friend, everybody knows that.
You are uninformed, obviously junior and very gullible. Probably one of the reasons ambos have been taken advantage of for so long. Sometimes I think people like you deserve what you get.
You can take or leave my advice but don’t say you havn’t been warned.
SPIDER
SPIDER - "Please explain". You on one hand strongly promote the new Paramedics NSW web site and then on the other hand you warn all and sundry about complying with the site's validation request by providing your ASNSW email address.
Oh wise one. What do you want me to do other than call you a sporadic moron???!!!
IT’S TIME TO KICK FUCKING IDIOTS LIKE YOU IN THE HEAD “POWER TENDS TO CORRUPT, BUT ABSOLUTE IDIOTS LIKE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY FUCKED IN THE HEAD”
Off on lunch
If we don't stand together what is dished up to us we,ll have to eat be cream or shit. What I can,t understand is the issue was a pay increase for skills, how the fuck did it get so off track with lossing penalties, rescue, rosteter and change to the award?
Whether your in this for life or have just joined it wont matter when you have nothing to barter for when going for the next pay increase, where a joke to all other ambulance services in oz
Even the firies and cops think so they have a one in all in philosophy, we tend to stick our head in the sand if it doesn't directly affect us.
As for the 27th go for it were ve nothing to loss. If the irc wont to fine me, sure do it, take it out of my slave wage at $21 fortnight I can afford it its just my union fees that i dont pay anymore.
Take your meal break your not being paid for and your entitled to it.
Leave the union. There changing the goal post and clouding the real issue.
I think we should be paid the equivalent of what the other services get. We do the same job.
Take back your pay increase, go back to the old award. and lets accert some true muscle for a real wage increase nothing more.
Anonymouse,
Yes I have strongly supported the Paramedic NSW website. And yes I did warn all in sundry about the validation process. I’m sure all of the other stuff you mentioned in your post means something to someone?
I don’t know if you have been keeping up with current events, but some in uniformed management may consider the Paramedic NSW website an act of rebellion. Why? Because it is a break away from HSU and their monopoly of power in our union. It seems you didn’t read the results of the recent parliamentary inquiry which detailed the rampant bullying and harassment that pervades our wonderful service.
And here comes the really neat part banana brain by Paramedic NSW sending a confirmation email to your work address it may provide some unscrupulous individuals with a list of people who are members of the site.
I’m not saying that everyone who registers will be targeted but I would think that those who are already perceived to be lose canons or recalcitrance might.
Many years ago I was harassed and my career destroyed for speaking out. In some ways this subversive harassment I still endure today.
There you go that was simple enough. If you have anymore questions please don’t hesitate to contact me.
SPIDER
As I said in my last post I believe we can trust Rochford on this one, and would only ever join if he guaranteed confidentially
What can I say.
Another failed delegates meeting today.
Fuck me there are some thick fuckers in this job.
How do you keep swalling the bullshit the HSU feeds you?
I am off the 27th and I hope the wheels fall right fucking off.
But they won't because some fuckwit I bet has already put their hand up to do my shift.
No Unity in this job.
FUCK the HSU
and FUCK all YOU PISS WEAK MOANING AMBO'S
Don't forget to whinge to someone tommorrow about the state of play but don't dare grow some balls and act.
Hope your out all day getting flogged for peanuts FUCKERS.
LONG LIVE THE TURD IN THE BAG.
There's some fucken action.
I would like to see 2000 turds delivered to Roachford
Get some fucken NADS spider.
And yes dumb fuck NADS is used in this country. Short for GONADS.
Terry Hill even had a grey hound called it.
Get your head out of your arse and keep up with the Social Development of this country.
And as always this country doesn't like cowards much.
YELLOW SPIDER
I know why spider is running scared of putting his work email on the other site, its because he is the only fuckwit among us who was dumb enough to spend all his time on this blog bagging the shit out of people, naming names and the like, now he uses the other forum under the same fucking name, what a fuck head, now people will no who the famous spider is, come out from under your rock fuck head, go join the other site under a differet name and get a hot mail address to use fuckstick. And your bagging out the ambulance service for fostering bullies, when the only behaviour we have seen from the rock spider is bully boy tactics name calling harrasment, fuck you are the problem fuck boy. Oh and buy the way if the service really wanted to they could trace you to the computer you use on this blog site. Grow up and go and hide under another name.
I forgot to add, even though I said all that, I piss myself laughing at some of you replies. I love this site, its the fucking funniest load of shit I have ever read.
"it must have been my wife using this computer. Your honor."
ROFLMAO
Its a classic allright.
Some top class comedic shit on here.
I am a big fan of the TURD man.
Hope the fumes stung the shit out of OL' CRAZY EYES.
Imagine how much water would come out of them puppies.
re : run and hide rock spider said...
eh ! wrong yourself fuckwit ... the service cannot trace spider to this web site.... it is a breach of law and they could be fined a lot of money for it !
Do your homework before shouting your big mouth off numbnuts !
hey 28 years....
do you work for us? never seen such pathetic spelling and disjointed sentences in my life what are you trying to say?
What is the obsession with "potty talk"? Must it be inserted into every other sentence? If you do not want people to get the wrong impression of you and you are tired of swearing instead of speaking clearly you need to think about why you swear and how you might be able to curb the habit.
Swearing can easily become a habit and is generally considered a bad habit. Just some friendly advice hope you guys don’t mind.
And to the anonymouse who pointed out that Nads actually stands for Gonads, thankyou, I would have never guessed. You so smart.
SPIDER
Fuck off spider you fucking nancy boy, fucking soft cock, fucking pussy. The swearing is the only fucking thing that makes this soft cock, lame arse blog worth reading. Fuck me side ways! But seriously people.... the spelling and the grammar, we really need to improve, it's fucking emabarrassing.
yer I work for you. true I can't spell thanks for picking that up. are you a teacher?
Next time we go for a pay increase I think it's in July, do you really trust this union to go for the best wage for us without lossing anymore conditions. Hang on we fucking gave them away.
My point is If we dont get balls/nads and take on this crap the next thing will go will be shift penalities, annual leave loading, calll outs etc. We will be on a composite wage of fuck all, because we have nothing to barter with. Hopefully Ive got less time in this sinking ship, Those of you of junior years your going to have to bail your fucking hearts out.Fucking one in all in, don't let them basters sell us out anymore.
28 years,
your grasp of the english language is astounding, no I'm not a teacher, just a baggy arsed ambo who can spell a bit. How have you lasted in the job so long, how do you convey what's going on with your patient via phcr's? I'm surprised we're not getting bigger pay cuts when this is the quality we've got out there. Amazing.
28 years,
your grasp of the english language is astounding, no I'm not a teacher, just a baggy arsed ambo who can spell a bit. How have you lasted in the job so long, how do you convey what's going on with your patient via phcr's? I'm surprised we're not getting bigger pay cuts when this is the quality we've got out there. Amazing.
Anonymouse,
Re: The swearing is the only fucking thing that makes this soft cock, lame arse blog worth reading.
Charming. Fascinating stuff, please please post more!!!
SPIDER
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
Billy W said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
January 24, 2009 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...
really !
Everyone ... and i mean EVERYONE on my station has left the HSU within the last 3 months !
It made me wonder at first why we didnt have a union rep around asking questions... but then i thought about it !
It is impossible to defend their corrupt dealings and they know it !!!
January 24, 2009 9:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes mate you are dead right. I wrote them a registered letter telling them why I had resigned and I have heard nothing. Am I surprised? Not one bit. Last pay I offered to buy everyone an ice cream with the $21 I had saved just to rub it in some more.
January 25, 2009 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...
TODAY SA AMBULANCE:
MAJOR CASE:
THESE RATES MUST HAVE A FURTHER 37% ADDED TO THEM AS AN OPERATIONAL ALLOWENCE
EG: YEAR 4 INTENSIVE CARE PARA BASE RATE APPROX 96,000.00 PA
ATTACHMENT 1
SCHEDULE 1 WAGES1 - SA Ambulance Service Award - 1st January 2007. 2008 and 20092
OPERATIONAL • AMBULANCE TRANSFER SERVICE STREAM
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary (2007 rate + 3.5%) 2009 Annual Salary (2008 rate + 3.5%)
PTS1.1 Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
PTS1.2 Ambulance Officer $36,500 $37,778 $39,100
PTS1.3 Ambulance Officer $39,500 $40,883 $42,313
PTS1.4 Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.1 ESS Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.2 ESS Ambulance Officer $44,500 $46,058 $47,670
PTS 2.1 Team Leader $47,000 $48,645 $50,348
PTS 2.2 Team Leader $50,000 $51,750 $53,561
OPERATIONAL - PROFESSIONAL (EMERGENCY) STREAM
Intern
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
1.1 Intern $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
1.2 Intern $45,000 $46,575 $48,205
Paramedic
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.1 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $49,000 $50,715 $52,490
2.2 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $51,000 $52,785 $54,632
2.3 Paramedic $53,000 $54,855 $56,775
2.4 Paramedic $55,000 $56,925 $58,917
2.5 Paramedic $57,000 $58,995 $61 ,060
2.6 Paramedic $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
Clinical Instructor
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.5 Clinical Instructor $57,000 $58,995 $61,060
2.6 Clinical Instructor $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
1 The applicable weekly amount payable will be ascertained by applying the following formula: annual salary x
(6/313).
2 Operative from the first full pay period on or after 31 December 2006; 31 December 2007 and 31 December 2008.
Without Prejudice
3.2 Clinical Instructor $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Clinical Instructor $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
Sponsored Paramedic Degree Program
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
SPDP1 Probationary Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
SPDP2 Student Ambulance Officer $37,500 $38,813 $40,171
SPDP3 Student Ambulance Officer $40,000 $41,400 $42,849
SPDP4 Student Ambulance Officer $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
Intensive Care Paramedic (ICP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.1 Intensive Care Paramedic Intern $60,000 $62,100 $64,274
3.2 Intensive Care Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Intensive Care Paramedic $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
3.4 Intensive Care Paramedic $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 Intensive Care Paramedic $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
SPRINT Paramedic
3.2 SPRINT Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), ESS (ESSTL), Regional (RTL), Paramedic Development Intern Team Leader (PDITL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.4 CTL/RTL<1 2 reports $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 CTL/RTL <12 reports $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
4.1 ESSTL $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 ESSTL $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
Intensive Care Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), Regional (RTL), Area (ACTL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
Without Prejudice
5.3 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Special Operations Team (SOT), Extended Care Paramedics (ECP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 SOT ICP, ECP $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 SOT ICP, ECP $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 SOT ICP, ECP $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 SOT ICP, ECP $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
5.1 SOT/Retrieval ICP $79,000 $81 ,765 $84,627
5.2 SOT/Retrieval ICP $81,000 $83,835 $86,769
5.3 SOT/Retrieval ICP $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 SOT Clinical Team Leader $86,00 $89,010 $92,125
Clinical Education, Support and Governance
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.2 Clinical Educator $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
5.3 Clinical Support Officer $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 Clinical Support Officer $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Operational Management
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
6.1 Clinical Manager, Patient Services Manager, Risk and Safety Manager, Special Operations Manager, State Duty Manager $96,000 $99,360 $102,838
January 27, 2009 9:43 PM
CES/SES
Per annum range
Remuneration Level 8
$348,601
to
$402,750
Remuneration Level 7
$278,001
to
$348,600
Remuneration Level 6
$247,301
to
$278,000
Remuneration Level 5
$214,351
to
$247,300
Remuneration Level 4
$196,651
to
$214,350
Remuneration Level 3
$173,101
to
$196,650
Remuneration Level 2
$161,351
to
$173,100
Remuneration Level 1
$137,800
to
$161,350
the table above represents the ses or state executive serive pay scale, the ce/ceo is on lvl 5 div managers are lvl 1 this does not include performance base contract bonus or retainer allowences these are:
Levels 7 and 8
up to
$35,000
Levels 5 and 6
up to
$27,000
Levels 3 and 4
up to
$19,000
Levels 1 and 2
up to
$15,000
the top table also doesnt state that it is legislation at the start of each year there is a 4% increase (automatic).
what maybe is not also common knowledge is that the ce/ceo under his/her duristiction is the abilty to sign off on a 5% pay increase for their workers. this option was not taken by our ceo, but prefered to take the matter to the courts. it also has been noted the vast amount of money invested by the state government in an attempt to provide a better service to the public. this as we all know has not been the case, the money stays at the higher levels to create personel empires and if their is any surplus will filter down to the coalface level, hence the increase of some 400% of support staff since the arrival of the currnet ceo. this equates to one support staff for every three on road officers and at times you cant even get a leave form signed, a very pathetic enviroment to be in i feel. no doubt at the end of the day the failing radio system, the poor pro q a system, the 6.4 mill dollars for 30 new front vechicles (which we have never seen), the list goes on will all be covered up when they have again finished investigating themselves yet again. the HSU is nothing but a mirror man (ill look into it) setup much like the management of the service and whilst ever we choose to stay under this organisation the prospects for ANY more pay rises (even though it stated the 4% was an interim)is very unlikely.
I believe that the majority of posts on this forum seem to be of a genuine and concerning nature, there are as always posts that are purely antagonistic however the facts that have progressed us to this outcome / outcomes are unequivocal, from the commencement of dialogue between the parties the HSU always advised its members to be compliant with all IRC instructions, where has it lead us? Loss of meals / call offs, a roster proposal that provides a further loss of wages and annual leave etc.
The last State delegates meeting saw the division once again of its members and Sub branches as you all will be aware the vote to implement some form of action was 10-4 against. The service has once again achieved its outcome thanks to its own staff.
In relation to the “day off” on the 27th sick leave is an award entitlement is very difficult to prove that its some form of action. What will happen if it’s considered such? Nothing we have nothing left to trade off or provide in closing thanks to the HSU for my pay cut (on an award that took some 4 plus years to ratify, CPI was at 4% during this time so I lost 16% even prior to starting) thanks for the new rosters which will extend my working hours by 64 hours of 16 weeks and this is being implemented on a fatigue based argument? Thanks for my forced annual leave which now means if I wish to go on a holiday in the summer with my kids I must wait till 2013, and finally thanks for giving up the rescue, THANKS HSU FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
The HSU won't let it happen
They are about improving our work conditions not going backwards.
You non believers have got to keep the faith.
The HSU is amounting an arsenal of industrial weapons to unleash at precisely the right time.
Now I hear on good authority that this will happen when Liberal gets voted in at next election.
Thats years away you say, well come on, I know you are all patient-I mean you all waited 4 years for pay claim debarcle, hang in there
The problem as I see it is that the union, and I use that term loosely, it is broken into so many sub-branches that the left hand doesn’t understand or comprehend what the right is doing. Also there are too many delegates with too many agendas and too many nitwits that wouldn’t be able to spell fairness or equity let alone understand what it means.
The previous anonymous spoke of impartiality, being proper and unbiased etc. Well my friend that won’t happen. Unfortunately the majority, with the most votes, WITH THE MOST TO GAIN, will rule the day. For example, I haven’t heard too much hype lately with respect to the 80 officers who just had their careers in rescue destroyed.
Yes as we all know HSU is run by the Labor party and are in bed with our management (remember management got the big pay rise not us). But we also need to have a look at the course of action we take as individuals. Take a look at the ever-increasing number of skills and pharmacology’s being mailed out to us, all accepted with no remuneration.
Think of it from service’s perspective, why should we consider paying these clowns an allowance when they will do it for nothing anyway…..HELLO. We need to start standing up for ourselves because as most of us realise by now we can’t rely on management’s union…..I mean our union…. right??
And if you can’t stand up for yourselves and say NO!!!! then don’t believe what your sub-branch delegates tell you. Most of them have no idea what they’re doing in any event.
I agree big time! There has been some talk about changing unions, can that be done?Can anyone shed some light on that? I think it's time we were in a union that represents emergency service people not cleaners,radiographers and such like.I can't believe my sub branch voted to accept that bullshit 4%. I didn't want that and i'm sure the majority of us didn't,how can they do that shit?.Can we get together and tell our sub-branch to get that cancelled? I believe we should be taking strong industrial action now and not waiting. Nurses, Cops,got their pay rises what wrong with us? How about the media campaign for the nurses! T.V ads all the time. On the radio, now look at our piss-weak unions efforts, Stickers and other crap! I'm sick of being the nice guy and copping it sweet. Lets get together fellow ambo's and get what we deserve. The most trusted profession and the most ripped off! We deserve to be paid a professional wage. Don't sell your selves short. Time to get tough and be a solid strong unit!
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
Children. That is what we employ now. Children. What a shame.It used to be such a great job. People hiding behind a blog. I would defy anyone to talk to me face to face they way the little kids here talk. Like a bunch of 12 year olds. No wonder the service treat us like idiots.
Hey Rick..... shame on you... i didnt know your wife was a super ?? well now that explains why you would recomend that we stick with a corrupt management owned union.
And as for you "angry HSU delegate... you want to know where you went wrong..? where all of you went wrong ???
You all started thinking you were too smart !! trying to be like cunning management and thinking you could negotiate your way over theres..., talk about everything... ! hey that guy brett Web even thinks that a degree in employee relations makes him a winner.
Well here is a little lesson for you all from the school of hard knocks and a history of street justice that by the way, i have never seen fail.
" The school bully cannot be nogotiated with " GOT IT !!!! he does not care what is fair, what the law says or even what anyone else thinks .... he will continue to dominate and reek havoc unabated until the one and ONLY one thing happens !!!!
Are you ready
(( " P A I N " ))! thats right.... the only thing that is going to make these mutts sit up and listen is when we stand up and knock them on their arse !
O.K. now I am going to give you the ultimate way to inflict that pain..
NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON LEAVES A SINGLE HOSPITAL ANYWHERE IN THE STATE FOR 24 HOURS !
now... I hear you ask.. how do we organise that without the HSU !!!
Well wait up ... i didnt say there was only one bully did I ???
No.... there are two.. and the other is Michael Willaimson... now his whole life has been devoted to his own selfish political career.. SO .. its not easy to guess what his dreaded sorce of P A I N needs to be ! If we all resign from the HSU and make it very public !! that will sit him on his arse. So .. we need to set a date and give him the chance to organise a total ban on anyone leaving hospitals for 24 hours or we ALL leave.
I suggest a date for this could be as early as next week ???
ANY THOUGHTS !
Going Going Gone said...
Everyone will do as they always do.
and look after themselves.
End of story.
Game over.
Morris GONE
Reba GONE
Rescue GONE
Meals GONE
HSU GOING
Labour Party GOING
Rural Entitlements GOING
so why do you think we need the HSU ,?,maybe you can enlighted me,on why I should stay.
If you can give me 10 good reasons why, I will leave the blogg forever.
why is everyone so scared of leaving the HSU?
You wont get the sack,you will have a pay rise of 21 dollars afortnight,you wont have contiued dissappointment with bad news from the HSU.
you will be able to run your own race against the government and the svc.
We wont have to listen to whinging about M.Williamson.which everyone does!
if we put our own demands on the Government then we will have a better chance of getting what we are worth.Or are you not that guttsy !!!
well it all sounds pretty good to me.
Dont forget get your resignation in mate or you will miss out,on seeing the light.
Dear HSU, you're dropped!
Dear HSU,
This break-up letter should come as no surprise nor cause any heartache to someone as cold hearted as you. Time and again I've tried to get you to show me how much you care. Time and again I've been rudely rebuffed.
I have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
Don't come crawling back on your hands and knees asking me to get lubed up and on mine, because I don't have to put up with that from you or anyone.
You see, to me and people who aren't dead inside like you, our pay demands and death & disability benefits are reasonable requests. They let me know that I am special and very important to you. The ironic things is how you always talked of taking our relationship to the next level, but you're just a Union of words, not actions. You gave me lip service and I wanted my needs serviced. I mean, what's more intimate and meaningful than sweet beautiful cash? You can keep your vows and veils and rings and ceremonies. I want something that actually means something. A pay rise is infinitely more meaningful than a trip down the aisle. It says that what we have is something special, something so important to both of us that it can only be expressed by actions.
But no... you say its dirty. It's wrong. It goes against the god-almighty government. Well boo-fucking-hoo. To us in the real world with hearts that function, that's called love. You don't have to sugar coat it, I know how you really feel about me. Its obvious that you're just hiding behind those absurd reasons because I am not the one for you. I truly hope you find some other poor deluded fools that you can bend over, jelly up, and screw over completely.
But it ain't gonna be me. Sadly, my love, I've got better things to do than being screwed over again and again.
No wonder we can't get what we want. We can't agree on the smallest things, so the big shit like a welfare system for Ambos and pay disputes are never going to get fixed. Wake up! THEY love the fact that there is so much division. Lets have a survey where we enter what we want, not what they want to hear for their KPI's and other shit to justify their positions.
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Billy W said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
January 24, 2009 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...
really !
Everyone ... and i mean EVERYONE on my station has left the HSU within the last 3 months !
It made me wonder at first why we didnt have a union rep around asking questions... but then i thought about it !
It is impossible to defend their corrupt dealings and they know it !!!
January 24, 2009 9:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes mate you are dead right. I wrote them a registered letter telling them why I had resigned and I have heard nothing. Am I surprised? Not one bit. Last pay I offered to buy everyone an ice cream with the $21 I had saved just to rub it in some more.
January 25, 2009 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...
TODAY SA AMBULANCE:
MAJOR CASE:
THESE RATES MUST HAVE A FURTHER 37% ADDED TO THEM AS AN OPERATIONAL ALLOWENCE
EG: YEAR 4 INTENSIVE CARE PARA BASE RATE APPROX 96,000.00 PA
ATTACHMENT 1
SCHEDULE 1 WAGES1 - SA Ambulance Service Award - 1st January 2007. 2008 and 20092
OPERATIONAL • AMBULANCE TRANSFER SERVICE STREAM
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary (2007 rate + 3.5%) 2009 Annual Salary (2008 rate + 3.5%)
PTS1.1 Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
PTS1.2 Ambulance Officer $36,500 $37,778 $39,100
PTS1.3 Ambulance Officer $39,500 $40,883 $42,313
PTS1.4 Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.1 ESS Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.2 ESS Ambulance Officer $44,500 $46,058 $47,670
PTS 2.1 Team Leader $47,000 $48,645 $50,348
PTS 2.2 Team Leader $50,000 $51,750 $53,561
OPERATIONAL - PROFESSIONAL (EMERGENCY) STREAM
Intern
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
1.1 Intern $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
1.2 Intern $45,000 $46,575 $48,205
Paramedic
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.1 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $49,000 $50,715 $52,490
2.2 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $51,000 $52,785 $54,632
2.3 Paramedic $53,000 $54,855 $56,775
2.4 Paramedic $55,000 $56,925 $58,917
2.5 Paramedic $57,000 $58,995 $61 ,060
2.6 Paramedic $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
Clinical Instructor
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.5 Clinical Instructor $57,000 $58,995 $61,060
2.6 Clinical Instructor $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
1 The applicable weekly amount payable will be ascertained by applying the following formula: annual salary x
(6/313).
2 Operative from the first full pay period on or after 31 December 2006; 31 December 2007 and 31 December 2008.
Without Prejudice
3.2 Clinical Instructor $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Clinical Instructor $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
Sponsored Paramedic Degree Program
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
SPDP1 Probationary Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
SPDP2 Student Ambulance Officer $37,500 $38,813 $40,171
SPDP3 Student Ambulance Officer $40,000 $41,400 $42,849
SPDP4 Student Ambulance Officer $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
Intensive Care Paramedic (ICP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.1 Intensive Care Paramedic Intern $60,000 $62,100 $64,274
3.2 Intensive Care Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Intensive Care Paramedic $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
3.4 Intensive Care Paramedic $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 Intensive Care Paramedic $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
SPRINT Paramedic
3.2 SPRINT Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), ESS (ESSTL), Regional (RTL), Paramedic Development Intern Team Leader (PDITL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.4 CTL/RTL<1 2 reports $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 CTL/RTL <12 reports $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
4.1 ESSTL $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 ESSTL $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
Intensive Care Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), Regional (RTL), Area (ACTL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
Without Prejudice
5.3 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Special Operations Team (SOT), Extended Care Paramedics (ECP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 SOT ICP, ECP $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 SOT ICP, ECP $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 SOT ICP, ECP $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 SOT ICP, ECP $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
5.1 SOT/Retrieval ICP $79,000 $81 ,765 $84,627
5.2 SOT/Retrieval ICP $81,000 $83,835 $86,769
5.3 SOT/Retrieval ICP $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 SOT Clinical Team Leader $86,00 $89,010 $92,125
Clinical Education, Support and Governance
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.2 Clinical Educator $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
5.3 Clinical Support Officer $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 Clinical Support Officer $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Operational Management
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
6.1 Clinical Manager, Patient Services Manager, Risk and Safety Manager, Special Operations Manager, State Duty Manager $96,000 $99,360 $102,838
January 27, 2009 9:43 PM
February 27, 2009 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...
CES/SES
Per annum range
Remuneration Level 8
$348,601
to
$402,750
Remuneration Level 7
$278,001
to
$348,600
Remuneration Level 6
$247,301
to
$278,000
Remuneration Level 5
$214,351
to
$247,300
Remuneration Level 4
$196,651
to
$214,350
Remuneration Level 3
$173,101
to
$196,650
Remuneration Level 2
$161,351
to
$173,100
Remuneration Level 1
$137,800
to
$161,350
the table above represents the ses or state executive serive pay scale, the ce/ceo is on lvl 5 div managers are lvl 1 this does not include performance base contract bonus or retainer allowences these are:
Levels 7 and 8
up to
$35,000
Levels 5 and 6
up to
$27,000
Levels 3 and 4
up to
$19,000
Levels 1 and 2
up to
$15,000
the top table also doesnt state that it is legislation at the start of each year there is a 4% increase (automatic).
what maybe is not also common knowledge is that the ce/ceo under his/her duristiction is the abilty to sign off on a 5% pay increase for their workers. this option was not taken by our ceo, but prefered to take the matter to the courts. it also has been noted the vast amount of money invested by the state government in an attempt to provide a better service to the public. this as we all know has not been the case, the money stays at the higher levels to create personel empires and if their is any surplus will filter down to the coalface level, hence the increase of some 400% of support staff since the arrival of the currnet ceo. this equates to one support staff for every three on road officers and at times you cant even get a leave form signed, a very pathetic enviroment to be in i feel. no doubt at the end of the day the failing radio system, the poor pro q a system, the 6.4 mill dollars for 30 new front vechicles (which we have never seen), the list goes on will all be covered up when they have again finished investigating themselves yet again. the HSU is nothing but a mirror man (ill look into it) setup much like the management of the service and whilst ever we choose to stay under this organisation the prospects for ANY more pay rises (even though it stated the 4% was an interim)is very unlikely.
February 27, 2009 2:17 PM
Anonymous said...
I believe that the majority of posts on this forum seem to be of a genuine and concerning nature, there are as always posts that are purely antagonistic however the facts that have progressed us to this outcome / outcomes are unequivocal, from the commencement of dialogue between the parties the HSU always advised its members to be compliant with all IRC instructions, where has it lead us? Loss of meals / call offs, a roster proposal that provides a further loss of wages and annual leave etc.
The last State delegates meeting saw the division once again of its members and Sub branches as you all will be aware the vote to implement some form of action was 10-4 against. The service has once again achieved its outcome thanks to its own staff.
In relation to the “day off” on the 27th sick leave is an award entitlement is very difficult to prove that its some form of action. What will happen if it’s considered such? Nothing we have nothing left to trade off or provide in closing thanks to the HSU for my pay cut (on an award that took some 4 plus years to ratify, CPI was at 4% during this time so I lost 16% even prior to starting) thanks for the new rosters which will extend my working hours by 64 hours of 16 weeks and this is being implemented on a fatigue based argument? Thanks for my forced annual leave which now means if I wish to go on a holiday in the summer with my kids I must wait till 2013, and finally thanks for giving up the rescue, THANKS HSU FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
February 27, 2009 2:18 PM
Anonymous said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
February 27, 2009 2:19 PM
Anonymous said...
The HSU won't let it happen
They are about improving our work conditions not going backwards.
You non believers have got to keep the faith.
The HSU is amounting an arsenal of industrial weapons to unleash at precisely the right time.
Now I hear on good authority that this will happen when Liberal gets voted in at next election.
Thats years away you say, well come on, I know you are all patient-I mean you all waited 4 years for pay claim debarcle, hang in there
February 27, 2009 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
The problem as I see it is that the union, and I use that term loosely, it is broken into so many sub-branches that the left hand doesn’t understand or comprehend what the right is doing. Also there are too many delegates with too many agendas and too many nitwits that wouldn’t be able to spell fairness or equity let alone understand what it means.
The previous anonymous spoke of impartiality, being proper and unbiased etc. Well my friend that won’t happen. Unfortunately the majority, with the most votes, WITH THE MOST TO GAIN, will rule the day. For example, I haven’t heard too much hype lately with respect to the 80 officers who just had their careers in rescue destroyed.
Yes as we all know HSU is run by the Labor party and are in bed with our management (remember management got the big pay rise not us). But we also need to have a look at the course of action we take as individuals. Take a look at the ever-increasing number of skills and pharmacology’s being mailed out to us, all accepted with no remuneration.
Think of it from service’s perspective, why should we consider paying these clowns an allowance when they will do it for nothing anyway…..HELLO. We need to start standing up for ourselves because as most of us realise by now we can’t rely on management’s union…..I mean our union…. right??
And if you can’t stand up for yourselves and say NO!!!! then don’t believe what your sub-branch delegates tell you. Most of them have no idea what they’re doing in any event.
February 27, 2009 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...
I agree big time! There has been some talk about changing unions, can that be done?Can anyone shed some light on that? I think it's time we were in a union that represents emergency service people not cleaners,radiographers and such like.I can't believe my sub branch voted to accept that bullshit 4%. I didn't want that and i'm sure the majority of us didn't,how can they do that shit?.Can we get together and tell our sub-branch to get that cancelled? I believe we should be taking strong industrial action now and not waiting. Nurses, Cops,got their pay rises what wrong with us? How about the media campaign for the nurses! T.V ads all the time. On the radio, now look at our piss-weak unions efforts, Stickers and other crap! I'm sick of being the nice guy and copping it sweet. Lets get together fellow ambo's and get what we deserve. The most trusted profession and the most ripped off! We deserve to be paid a professional wage. Don't sell your selves short. Time to get tough and be a solid strong unit!
February 27, 2009 2:23 PM
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 2:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Children. That is what we employ now. Children. What a shame.It used to be such a great job. People hiding behind a blog. I would defy anyone to talk to me face to face they way the little kids here talk. Like a bunch of 12 year olds. No wonder the service treat us like idiots.
February 27, 2009 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...
Hey Rick..... shame on you... i didnt know your wife was a super ?? well now that explains why you would recomend that we stick with a corrupt management owned union.
And as for you "angry HSU delegate... you want to know where you went wrong..? where all of you went wrong ???
You all started thinking you were too smart !! trying to be like cunning management and thinking you could negotiate your way over theres..., talk about everything... ! hey that guy brett Web even thinks that a degree in employee relations makes him a winner.
Well here is a little lesson for you all from the school of hard knocks and a history of street justice that by the way, i have never seen fail.
" The school bully cannot be nogotiated with " GOT IT !!!! he does not care what is fair, what the law says or even what anyone else thinks .... he will continue to dominate and reek havoc unabated until the one and ONLY one thing happens !!!!
Are you ready
(( " P A I N " ))! thats right.... the only thing that is going to make these mutts sit up and listen is when we stand up and knock them on their arse !
O.K. now I am going to give you the ultimate way to inflict that pain..
NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON LEAVES A SINGLE HOSPITAL ANYWHERE IN THE STATE FOR 24 HOURS !
now... I hear you ask.. how do we organise that without the HSU !!!
Well wait up ... i didnt say there was only one bully did I ???
No.... there are two.. and the other is Michael Willaimson... now his whole life has been devoted to his own selfish political career.. SO .. its not easy to guess what his dreaded sorce of P A I N needs to be ! If we all resign from the HSU and make it very public !! that will sit him on his arse. So .. we need to set a date and give him the chance to organise a total ban on anyone leaving hospitals for 24 hours or we ALL leave.
I suggest a date for this could be as early as next week ???
ANY THOUGHTS !
Going Going Gone said...
Everyone will do as they always do.
and look after themselves.
End of story.
Game over.
Morris GONE
Reba GONE
Rescue GONE
Meals GONE
HSU GOING
Labour Party GOING
Rural Entitlements GOING
February 27, 2009 2:35 PM
Anonymous said...
so why do you think we need the HSU ,?,maybe you can enlighted me,on why I should stay.
If you can give me 10 good reasons why, I will leave the blogg forever.
why is everyone so scared of leaving the HSU?
You wont get the sack,you will have a pay rise of 21 dollars afortnight,you wont have contiued dissappointment with bad news from the HSU.
you will be able to run your own race against the government and the svc.
We wont have to listen to whinging about M.Williamson.which everyone does!
if we put our own demands on the Government then we will have a better chance of getting what we are worth.Or are you not that guttsy !!!
well it all sounds pretty good to me.
Dont forget get your resignation in mate or you will miss out,on seeing the light.
February 27, 2009 2:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Dear HSU, you're dropped!
Dear HSU,
This break-up letter should come as no surprise nor cause any heartache to someone as cold hearted as you. Time and again I've tried to get you to show me how much you care. Time and again I've been rudely rebuffed.
I have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
Don't come crawling back on your hands and knees asking me to get lubed up and on mine, because I don't have to put up with that from you or anyone.
You see, to me and people who aren't dead inside like you, our pay demands and death & disability benefits are reasonable requests. They let me know that I am special and very important to you. The ironic things is how you always talked of taking our relationship to the next level, but you're just a Union of words, not actions. You gave me lip service and I wanted my needs serviced. I mean, what's more intimate and meaningful than sweet beautiful cash? You can keep your vows and veils and rings and ceremonies. I want something that actually means something. A pay rise is infinitely more meaningful than a trip down the aisle. It says that what we have is something special, something so important to both of us that it can only be expressed by actions.
But no... you say its dirty. It's wrong. It goes against the god-almighty government. Well boo-fucking-hoo. To us in the real world with hearts that function, that's called love. You don't have to sugar coat it, I know how you really feel about me. Its obvious that you're just hiding behind those absurd reasons because I am not the one for you. I truly hope you find some other poor deluded fools that you can bend over, jelly up, and screw over completely.
But it ain't gonna be me. Sadly, my love, I've got better things to do than being screwed over again and again.
February 27, 2009 2:39 PM
Anonymous said...
No wonder we can't get what we want. We can't agree on the smallest things, so the big shit like a welfare system for Ambos and pay disputes are never going to get fixed. Wake up! THEY love the fact that there is so much division. Lets have a survey where we enter what we want, not what they want to hear for their KPI's and other shit to justify their positions.
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form.”
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One confirmation email!!!!!!!!!!!! Is all it will take you knuckleheads!!!!!!. Anybody told you service emails are monitored, obviously not. It even says it on the bottom of every email you nitwits!!!!.
I thought you guys were switched on. Have you bothered to read the last Parliamentary Inquiry? Remember the little bit about bullying and harassment? The Old Boys Club etc etc etc etc etc. That report was produced only from those who were game enough to speak out.
What a wonderful list of names you will provide them with. I wonder how many suicides through harassment and bullying you will produce with this little blunder. Fuck me!!!
My advice to others is to CONSIDER VERY VERY CAREFULLY about registering. I know how the old boys net works in this service. I lived through it and can say from experience it’s one hell of a ride, As we all know some of our colleagues failed to weather the storm and have left the service one way or another. R.I.P
Be advised these pieces of filth will stop at nothing to try and maintain their control of HSU and the service. Remember ladies and gents management are in HSU with us. Paying members just like us. But unlike us they control the game especially the big plays. Who do you turn to when you are out ranked in your own union and in the organisation you work for. Ever heard of the term “cut down in the crossfire”
SERIOUSLY BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIDER
the last I cut and pasted it was one of spiders previous posts.someone obviously doesn't like what he has to say so cut and pasted alot of stuff after his. spider is right why a confirmaton email to your service email address so you can join paramedic NSW with the chance of being bullied and harased. spider whoever he is has nearly always been right with everything else
I'm staying away.
Hsu is having another meeting this week with management re the proposed new 16 week rosters.
JUST WATCH THOSE BUDDYS WORK TOGETHER TO BRING IT IN AND FUCK US ALL !
You know the bit that really shits me .... we never even had a chance !
Westy/Spider/Greg/Michael:
You are either one of the above or just another gutless fuck scared of his/her own shadow...you have a lot of company in the svc if that is the case,ohhh they will send me a comfirmation, ohhh i'm so scared of being bullied. wake up and smell freedom you arsehole
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Billy W said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
January 24, 2009 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...
really !
Everyone ... and i mean EVERYONE on my station has left the HSU within the last 3 months !
It made me wonder at first why we didnt have a union rep around asking questions... but then i thought about it !
It is impossible to defend their corrupt dealings and they know it !!!
January 24, 2009 9:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes mate you are dead right. I wrote them a registered letter telling them why I had resigned and I have heard nothing. Am I surprised? Not one bit. Last pay I offered to buy everyone an ice cream with the $21 I had saved just to rub it in some more.
January 25, 2009 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...
TODAY SA AMBULANCE:
MAJOR CASE:
THESE RATES MUST HAVE A FURTHER 37% ADDED TO THEM AS AN OPERATIONAL ALLOWENCE
EG: YEAR 4 INTENSIVE CARE PARA BASE RATE APPROX 96,000.00 PA
ATTACHMENT 1
SCHEDULE 1 WAGES1 - SA Ambulance Service Award - 1st January 2007. 2008 and 20092
OPERATIONAL • AMBULANCE TRANSFER SERVICE STREAM
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary (2007 rate + 3.5%) 2009 Annual Salary (2008 rate + 3.5%)
PTS1.1 Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
PTS1.2 Ambulance Officer $36,500 $37,778 $39,100
PTS1.3 Ambulance Officer $39,500 $40,883 $42,313
PTS1.4 Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.1 ESS Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.2 ESS Ambulance Officer $44,500 $46,058 $47,670
PTS 2.1 Team Leader $47,000 $48,645 $50,348
PTS 2.2 Team Leader $50,000 $51,750 $53,561
OPERATIONAL - PROFESSIONAL (EMERGENCY) STREAM
Intern
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
1.1 Intern $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
1.2 Intern $45,000 $46,575 $48,205
Paramedic
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.1 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $49,000 $50,715 $52,490
2.2 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $51,000 $52,785 $54,632
2.3 Paramedic $53,000 $54,855 $56,775
2.4 Paramedic $55,000 $56,925 $58,917
2.5 Paramedic $57,000 $58,995 $61 ,060
2.6 Paramedic $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
Clinical Instructor
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.5 Clinical Instructor $57,000 $58,995 $61,060
2.6 Clinical Instructor $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
1 The applicable weekly amount payable will be ascertained by applying the following formula: annual salary x
(6/313).
2 Operative from the first full pay period on or after 31 December 2006; 31 December 2007 and 31 December 2008.
Without Prejudice
3.2 Clinical Instructor $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Clinical Instructor $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
Sponsored Paramedic Degree Program
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
SPDP1 Probationary Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
SPDP2 Student Ambulance Officer $37,500 $38,813 $40,171
SPDP3 Student Ambulance Officer $40,000 $41,400 $42,849
SPDP4 Student Ambulance Officer $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
Intensive Care Paramedic (ICP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.1 Intensive Care Paramedic Intern $60,000 $62,100 $64,274
3.2 Intensive Care Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Intensive Care Paramedic $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
3.4 Intensive Care Paramedic $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 Intensive Care Paramedic $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
SPRINT Paramedic
3.2 SPRINT Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), ESS (ESSTL), Regional (RTL), Paramedic Development Intern Team Leader (PDITL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.4 CTL/RTL<1 2 reports $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 CTL/RTL <12 reports $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
4.1 ESSTL $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 ESSTL $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
Intensive Care Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), Regional (RTL), Area (ACTL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
Without Prejudice
5.3 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Special Operations Team (SOT), Extended Care Paramedics (ECP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 SOT ICP, ECP $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 SOT ICP, ECP $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 SOT ICP, ECP $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 SOT ICP, ECP $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
5.1 SOT/Retrieval ICP $79,000 $81 ,765 $84,627
5.2 SOT/Retrieval ICP $81,000 $83,835 $86,769
5.3 SOT/Retrieval ICP $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 SOT Clinical Team Leader $86,00 $89,010 $92,125
Clinical Education, Support and Governance
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.2 Clinical Educator $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
5.3 Clinical Support Officer $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 Clinical Support Officer $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Operational Management
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
6.1 Clinical Manager, Patient Services Manager, Risk and Safety Manager, Special Operations Manager, State Duty Manager $96,000 $99,360 $102,838
January 27, 2009 9:43 PM
February 27, 2009 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...
CES/SES
Per annum range
Remuneration Level 8
$348,601
to
$402,750
Remuneration Level 7
$278,001
to
$348,600
Remuneration Level 6
$247,301
to
$278,000
Remuneration Level 5
$214,351
to
$247,300
Remuneration Level 4
$196,651
to
$214,350
Remuneration Level 3
$173,101
to
$196,650
Remuneration Level 2
$161,351
to
$173,100
Remuneration Level 1
$137,800
to
$161,350
the table above represents the ses or state executive serive pay scale, the ce/ceo is on lvl 5 div managers are lvl 1 this does not include performance base contract bonus or retainer allowences these are:
Levels 7 and 8
up to
$35,000
Levels 5 and 6
up to
$27,000
Levels 3 and 4
up to
$19,000
Levels 1 and 2
up to
$15,000
the top table also doesnt state that it is legislation at the start of each year there is a 4% increase (automatic).
what maybe is not also common knowledge is that the ce/ceo under his/her duristiction is the abilty to sign off on a 5% pay increase for their workers. this option was not taken by our ceo, but prefered to take the matter to the courts. it also has been noted the vast amount of money invested by the state government in an attempt to provide a better service to the public. this as we all know has not been the case, the money stays at the higher levels to create personel empires and if their is any surplus will filter down to the coalface level, hence the increase of some 400% of support staff since the arrival of the currnet ceo. this equates to one support staff for every three on road officers and at times you cant even get a leave form signed, a very pathetic enviroment to be in i feel. no doubt at the end of the day the failing radio system, the poor pro q a system, the 6.4 mill dollars for 30 new front vechicles (which we have never seen), the list goes on will all be covered up when they have again finished investigating themselves yet again. the HSU is nothing but a mirror man (ill look into it) setup much like the management of the service and whilst ever we choose to stay under this organisation the prospects for ANY more pay rises (even though it stated the 4% was an interim)is very unlikely.
February 27, 2009 2:17 PM
Anonymous said...
I believe that the majority of posts on this forum seem to be of a genuine and concerning nature, there are as always posts that are purely antagonistic however the facts that have progressed us to this outcome / outcomes are unequivocal, from the commencement of dialogue between the parties the HSU always advised its members to be compliant with all IRC instructions, where has it lead us? Loss of meals / call offs, a roster proposal that provides a further loss of wages and annual leave etc.
The last State delegates meeting saw the division once again of its members and Sub branches as you all will be aware the vote to implement some form of action was 10-4 against. The service has once again achieved its outcome thanks to its own staff.
In relation to the “day off” on the 27th sick leave is an award entitlement is very difficult to prove that its some form of action. What will happen if it’s considered such? Nothing we have nothing left to trade off or provide in closing thanks to the HSU for my pay cut (on an award that took some 4 plus years to ratify, CPI was at 4% during this time so I lost 16% even prior to starting) thanks for the new rosters which will extend my working hours by 64 hours of 16 weeks and this is being implemented on a fatigue based argument? Thanks for my forced annual leave which now means if I wish to go on a holiday in the summer with my kids I must wait till 2013, and finally thanks for giving up the rescue, THANKS HSU FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
February 27, 2009 2:18 PM
Anonymous said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
February 27, 2009 2:19 PM
Anonymous said...
The HSU won't let it happen
They are about improving our work conditions not going backwards.
You non believers have got to keep the faith.
The HSU is amounting an arsenal of industrial weapons to unleash at precisely the right time.
Now I hear on good authority that this will happen when Liberal gets voted in at next election.
Thats years away you say, well come on, I know you are all patient-I mean you all waited 4 years for pay claim debarcle, hang in there
February 27, 2009 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
The problem as I see it is that the union, and I use that term loosely, it is broken into so many sub-branches that the left hand doesn’t understand or comprehend what the right is doing. Also there are too many delegates with too many agendas and too many nitwits that wouldn’t be able to spell fairness or equity let alone understand what it means.
The previous anonymous spoke of impartiality, being proper and unbiased etc. Well my friend that won’t happen. Unfortunately the majority, with the most votes, WITH THE MOST TO GAIN, will rule the day. For example, I haven’t heard too much hype lately with respect to the 80 officers who just had their careers in rescue destroyed.
Yes as we all know HSU is run by the Labor party and are in bed with our management (remember management got the big pay rise not us). But we also need to have a look at the course of action we take as individuals. Take a look at the ever-increasing number of skills and pharmacology’s being mailed out to us, all accepted with no remuneration.
Think of it from service’s perspective, why should we consider paying these clowns an allowance when they will do it for nothing anyway…..HELLO. We need to start standing up for ourselves because as most of us realise by now we can’t rely on management’s union…..I mean our union…. right??
And if you can’t stand up for yourselves and say NO!!!! then don’t believe what your sub-branch delegates tell you. Most of them have no idea what they’re doing in any event.
February 27, 2009 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...
I agree big time! There has been some talk about changing unions, can that be done?Can anyone shed some light on that? I think it's time we were in a union that represents emergency service people not cleaners,radiographers and such like.I can't believe my sub branch voted to accept that bullshit 4%. I didn't want that and i'm sure the majority of us didn't,how can they do that shit?.Can we get together and tell our sub-branch to get that cancelled? I believe we should be taking strong industrial action now and not waiting. Nurses, Cops,got their pay rises what wrong with us? How about the media campaign for the nurses! T.V ads all the time. On the radio, now look at our piss-weak unions efforts, Stickers and other crap! I'm sick of being the nice guy and copping it sweet. Lets get together fellow ambo's and get what we deserve. The most trusted profession and the most ripped off! We deserve to be paid a professional wage. Don't sell your selves short. Time to get tough and be a solid strong unit!
February 27, 2009 2:23 PM
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 2:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Children. That is what we employ now. Children. What a shame.It used to be such a great job. People hiding behind a blog. I would defy anyone to talk to me face to face they way the little kids here talk. Like a bunch of 12 year olds. No wonder the service treat us like idiots.
February 27, 2009 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...
Hey Rick..... shame on you... i didnt know your wife was a super ?? well now that explains why you would recomend that we stick with a corrupt management owned union.
And as for you "angry HSU delegate... you want to know where you went wrong..? where all of you went wrong ???
You all started thinking you were too smart !! trying to be like cunning management and thinking you could negotiate your way over theres..., talk about everything... ! hey that guy brett Web even thinks that a degree in employee relations makes him a winner.
Well here is a little lesson for you all from the school of hard knocks and a history of street justice that by the way, i have never seen fail.
" The school bully cannot be nogotiated with " GOT IT !!!! he does not care what is fair, what the law says or even what anyone else thinks .... he will continue to dominate and reek havoc unabated until the one and ONLY one thing happens !!!!
Are you ready
(( " P A I N " ))! thats right.... the only thing that is going to make these mutts sit up and listen is when we stand up and knock them on their arse !
O.K. now I am going to give you the ultimate way to inflict that pain..
NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON LEAVES A SINGLE HOSPITAL ANYWHERE IN THE STATE FOR 24 HOURS !
now... I hear you ask.. how do we organise that without the HSU !!!
Well wait up ... i didnt say there was only one bully did I ???
No.... there are two.. and the other is Michael Willaimson... now his whole life has been devoted to his own selfish political career.. SO .. its not easy to guess what his dreaded sorce of P A I N needs to be ! If we all resign from the HSU and make it very public !! that will sit him on his arse. So .. we need to set a date and give him the chance to organise a total ban on anyone leaving hospitals for 24 hours or we ALL leave.
I suggest a date for this could be as early as next week ???
ANY THOUGHTS !
Going Going Gone said...
Everyone will do as they always do.
and look after themselves.
End of story.
Game over.
Morris GONE
Reba GONE
Rescue GONE
Meals GONE
HSU GOING
Labour Party GOING
Rural Entitlements GOING
February 27, 2009 2:35 PM
Anonymous said...
so why do you think we need the HSU ,?,maybe you can enlighted me,on why I should stay.
If you can give me 10 good reasons why, I will leave the blogg forever.
why is everyone so scared of leaving the HSU?
You wont get the sack,you will have a pay rise of 21 dollars afortnight,you wont have contiued dissappointment with bad news from the HSU.
you will be able to run your own race against the government and the svc.
We wont have to listen to whinging about M.Williamson.which everyone does!
if we put our own demands on the Government then we will have a better chance of getting what we are worth.Or are you not that guttsy !!!
well it all sounds pretty good to me.
Dont forget get your resignation in mate or you will miss out,on seeing the light.
February 27, 2009 2:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Dear HSU, you're dropped!
Dear HSU,
This break-up letter should come as no surprise nor cause any heartache to someone as cold hearted as you. Time and again I've tried to get you to show me how much you care. Time and again I've been rudely rebuffed.
I have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
Don't come crawling back on your hands and knees asking me to get lubed up and on mine, because I don't have to put up with that from you or anyone.
You see, to me and people who aren't dead inside like you, our pay demands and death & disability benefits are reasonable requests. They let me know that I am special and very important to you. The ironic things is how you always talked of taking our relationship to the next level, but you're just a Union of words, not actions. You gave me lip service and I wanted my needs serviced. I mean, what's more intimate and meaningful than sweet beautiful cash? You can keep your vows and veils and rings and ceremonies. I want something that actually means something. A pay rise is infinitely more meaningful than a trip down the aisle. It says that what we have is something special, something so important to both of us that it can only be expressed by actions.
But no... you say its dirty. It's wrong. It goes against the god-almighty government. Well boo-fucking-hoo. To us in the real world with hearts that function, that's called love. You don't have to sugar coat it, I know how you really feel about me. Its obvious that you're just hiding behind those absurd reasons because I am not the one for you. I truly hope you find some other poor deluded fools that you can bend over, jelly up, and screw over completely.
But it ain't gonna be me. Sadly, my love, I've got better things to do than being screwed over again and again.
February 27, 2009 2:39 PM
Anonymous said...
No wonder we can't get what we want. We can't agree on the smallest things, so the big shit like a welfare system for Ambos and pay disputes are never going to get fixed. Wake up! THEY love the fact that there is so much division. Lets have a survey where we enter what we want, not what they want to hear for their KPI's and other shit to justify their positions.
February 27, 2009 2:51 PM
Anonymous said...
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
the last I cut and pasted it was one of spiders previous posts.someone obviously doesn't like what he has to say so cut and pasted alot of stuff after his. spider is right why a confirmaton email to your service email address so you can join paramedic NSW with the chance of being bullied and harased. spider whoever he is has nearly always been right with everything else
I'm staying away.
Dear HSU, you're dropped!
Dear HSU,
This break-up letter should come as no surprise nor cause any heartache to someone as cold hearted as you. Time and again I've tried to get you to show me how much you care. Time and again I've been rudely rebuffed.
I have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
Don't come crawling back on your hands and knees asking me to get lubed up and on mine, because I don't have to put up with that from you or anyone.
You see, to me and people who aren't dead inside like you, our pay demands and death & disability benefits are reasonable requests. They let me know that I am special and very important to you. The ironic things is how you always talked of taking our relationship to the next level, but you're just a Union of words, not actions. You gave me lip service and I wanted my needs serviced. I mean, what's more intimate and meaningful than sweet beautiful cash? You can keep your vows and veils and rings and ceremonies. I want something that actually means something. A pay rise is infinitely more meaningful than a trip down the aisle. It says that what we have is something special, something so important to both of us that it can only be expressed by actions.
But no... you say its dirty. It's wrong. It goes against the god-almighty government. Well boo-fucking-hoo. To us in the real world with hearts that function, that's called love. You don't have to sugar coat it, I know how you really feel about me. Its obvious that you're just hiding behind those absurd reasons because I am not the one for you. I truly hope you find some other poor deluded fools that you can bend over, jelly up, and screw over completely.
But it ain't gonna be me. Sadly, my love, I've got better things to do than being screwed over again and again.
SPIDER said...
Make them suffer,
Re: Soft Cocks
Look at me, look at me. What an impressive command of the English Vocabulary you have. A true wordsmith if ever there was one.
Maybe we could exchange emails and I could come around to your place?
You could give me a quiz at your cherished Bunderburg Rum Ute that is full of a variety of emptied beer cans. You could even loan me your bestest Hustler magazine. Maybe you would even attempt to impress me with your collection of photographs that resemble male and female genitals.
Whatever the case, there is no doubt in my mind that meeting you would be a extraordinary experience.
Nitwit.
SPIDER
February 23, 2009 12:12 PM
Have a go said...
Yeah that would be nice!!
February 23, 2009 3:11 PM
the last I cut and pasted it was one of spiders previous posts.someone obviously doesn't like what he has to say so cut and pasted alot of stuff after his. spider is right why a confirmaton email to your service email address so you can join paramedic NSW with the chance of being bullied and harased. spider whoever he is has nearly always been right with everything else
I'm staying away.
February 27, 2009 6:25 PM
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
You need the love of the Turd.
Allow turd into your life, you will have your needs met.
I heard someone put 6 Rescue trucks on ebay.
How fucking funy is that.
First news of the TURD and now this.
Fuck me dead thats funny.
yeah pretty funny but it was obviously done by knuckle dragging hose draggers.
O.K., let's get rid of hsu, let's all join the association.
The thing is though, the way I read all the speals on the association web site, it seems to me we still need hsu. Apparently the association can't put forward a new award, all it can do is argue that we're not happy with what's been put forward. We still need the hsu to be the figure head of the workers. it seems to me there's a lot of piss and wind when it comes to the association. They certainly can't answer a lot of questions that have been put to them, their catch cry is that of crossing T's and dotting I's. No specific info has been forth coming. The service must be pissing themselves laughing looking at the disunity that the association is causing. They are not being truthful when it comes to the fact they are an even more a toothless tiger than the hsu.
Before you all start, I the think the hsu are a bunch of self serving crooks, but they do have more pull than the association.
There are even calls on the web site to close down this mighty fine blog. Perrish the thought, where else would I get my evening jollies.
Last blog, you are an ill informed idiot..... !
why so?
Please enlighten me, which of my statements are incorrect or ill informed.
p.s.
I am an idiot.
For a start.
What sort of FUCKWIT would want the HSU going near any future award.
The NEW Fucked award we just got IS BETTER than the next one the HSU would get us.
If you like going backwards stay with the HSU Dumb Fucker
as from today we on the central coast have nothing left to give up,,,,unless they want us to work for zero,which then NSW wont have an ambulance svc.
thanks to the delegates of the country and some of the city,which amazes me that they of all will lose money and conditions,just like the central coast.they must have their own agenda,,,promtion?choice station?maybe to become HSUs next great leader?
one only has to wonder.
to the delegates on the central coast,thanks we know you put up agreat fight,
well Greg,Willis,HSU,Rees,thanks for fuck all.what do you want next?
will i get another fucking email next week saying you re going to take weekend pens or will it be night shift pens next.
Just cant fuckeing wait to open next weeks installment !!!!!!!
so how many didnt turn up today???or are you all true to the svc and not to yourselves?
RE: Don't trust the Association,
Gee you seem to have a lot of negative things to say about an Association that ISN'T EVEN OPERATIONAL YET !!!!!!
Even if your blog is 50% accurate (which I doubt) I would still prefer to put my trust with them than a Organisation that is FULL of people with (not so ) hidden adgendas. Starting at the very top, you know that Labor Party wannabe.
I think the Paramedics NSW asociation blog site is actually run by the Service and their collecting a list of all the Ambos who bag them out and when the times right there going to crucify all the poor suckers who thought it was for real.Dont even log onto that other site or your doomed YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!!!!!
warned by who ?or are you worried they might find out who you are?
I like to stay anonymous,,,it suits me.Thats all i have left!
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Anonymous said...
Billy W said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
January 24, 2009 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...
really !
Everyone ... and i mean EVERYONE on my station has left the HSU within the last 3 months !
It made me wonder at first why we didnt have a union rep around asking questions... but then i thought about it !
It is impossible to defend their corrupt dealings and they know it !!!
January 24, 2009 9:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes mate you are dead right. I wrote them a registered letter telling them why I had resigned and I have heard nothing. Am I surprised? Not one bit. Last pay I offered to buy everyone an ice cream with the $21 I had saved just to rub it in some more.
January 25, 2009 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...
TODAY SA AMBULANCE:
MAJOR CASE:
THESE RATES MUST HAVE A FURTHER 37% ADDED TO THEM AS AN OPERATIONAL ALLOWENCE
EG: YEAR 4 INTENSIVE CARE PARA BASE RATE APPROX 96,000.00 PA
ATTACHMENT 1
SCHEDULE 1 WAGES1 - SA Ambulance Service Award - 1st January 2007. 2008 and 20092
OPERATIONAL • AMBULANCE TRANSFER SERVICE STREAM
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary (2007 rate + 3.5%) 2009 Annual Salary (2008 rate + 3.5%)
PTS1.1 Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
PTS1.2 Ambulance Officer $36,500 $37,778 $39,100
PTS1.3 Ambulance Officer $39,500 $40,883 $42,313
PTS1.4 Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.1 ESS Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.2 ESS Ambulance Officer $44,500 $46,058 $47,670
PTS 2.1 Team Leader $47,000 $48,645 $50,348
PTS 2.2 Team Leader $50,000 $51,750 $53,561
OPERATIONAL - PROFESSIONAL (EMERGENCY) STREAM
Intern
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
1.1 Intern $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
1.2 Intern $45,000 $46,575 $48,205
Paramedic
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.1 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $49,000 $50,715 $52,490
2.2 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $51,000 $52,785 $54,632
2.3 Paramedic $53,000 $54,855 $56,775
2.4 Paramedic $55,000 $56,925 $58,917
2.5 Paramedic $57,000 $58,995 $61 ,060
2.6 Paramedic $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
Clinical Instructor
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.5 Clinical Instructor $57,000 $58,995 $61,060
2.6 Clinical Instructor $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
1 The applicable weekly amount payable will be ascertained by applying the following formula: annual salary x
(6/313).
2 Operative from the first full pay period on or after 31 December 2006; 31 December 2007 and 31 December 2008.
Without Prejudice
3.2 Clinical Instructor $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Clinical Instructor $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
Sponsored Paramedic Degree Program
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
SPDP1 Probationary Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
SPDP2 Student Ambulance Officer $37,500 $38,813 $40,171
SPDP3 Student Ambulance Officer $40,000 $41,400 $42,849
SPDP4 Student Ambulance Officer $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
Intensive Care Paramedic (ICP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.1 Intensive Care Paramedic Intern $60,000 $62,100 $64,274
3.2 Intensive Care Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Intensive Care Paramedic $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
3.4 Intensive Care Paramedic $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 Intensive Care Paramedic $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
SPRINT Paramedic
3.2 SPRINT Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), ESS (ESSTL), Regional (RTL), Paramedic Development Intern Team Leader (PDITL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.4 CTL/RTL<1 2 reports $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 CTL/RTL <12 reports $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
4.1 ESSTL $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 ESSTL $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
Intensive Care Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), Regional (RTL), Area (ACTL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
Without Prejudice
5.3 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Special Operations Team (SOT), Extended Care Paramedics (ECP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 SOT ICP, ECP $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 SOT ICP, ECP $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 SOT ICP, ECP $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 SOT ICP, ECP $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
5.1 SOT/Retrieval ICP $79,000 $81 ,765 $84,627
5.2 SOT/Retrieval ICP $81,000 $83,835 $86,769
5.3 SOT/Retrieval ICP $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 SOT Clinical Team Leader $86,00 $89,010 $92,125
Clinical Education, Support and Governance
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.2 Clinical Educator $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
5.3 Clinical Support Officer $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 Clinical Support Officer $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Operational Management
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
6.1 Clinical Manager, Patient Services Manager, Risk and Safety Manager, Special Operations Manager, State Duty Manager $96,000 $99,360 $102,838
January 27, 2009 9:43 PM
February 27, 2009 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...
CES/SES
Per annum range
Remuneration Level 8
$348,601
to
$402,750
Remuneration Level 7
$278,001
to
$348,600
Remuneration Level 6
$247,301
to
$278,000
Remuneration Level 5
$214,351
to
$247,300
Remuneration Level 4
$196,651
to
$214,350
Remuneration Level 3
$173,101
to
$196,650
Remuneration Level 2
$161,351
to
$173,100
Remuneration Level 1
$137,800
to
$161,350
the table above represents the ses or state executive serive pay scale, the ce/ceo is on lvl 5 div managers are lvl 1 this does not include performance base contract bonus or retainer allowences these are:
Levels 7 and 8
up to
$35,000
Levels 5 and 6
up to
$27,000
Levels 3 and 4
up to
$19,000
Levels 1 and 2
up to
$15,000
the top table also doesnt state that it is legislation at the start of each year there is a 4% increase (automatic).
what maybe is not also common knowledge is that the ce/ceo under his/her duristiction is the abilty to sign off on a 5% pay increase for their workers. this option was not taken by our ceo, but prefered to take the matter to the courts. it also has been noted the vast amount of money invested by the state government in an attempt to provide a better service to the public. this as we all know has not been the case, the money stays at the higher levels to create personel empires and if their is any surplus will filter down to the coalface level, hence the increase of some 400% of support staff since the arrival of the currnet ceo. this equates to one support staff for every three on road officers and at times you cant even get a leave form signed, a very pathetic enviroment to be in i feel. no doubt at the end of the day the failing radio system, the poor pro q a system, the 6.4 mill dollars for 30 new front vechicles (which we have never seen), the list goes on will all be covered up when they have again finished investigating themselves yet again. the HSU is nothing but a mirror man (ill look into it) setup much like the management of the service and whilst ever we choose to stay under this organisation the prospects for ANY more pay rises (even though it stated the 4% was an interim)is very unlikely.
February 27, 2009 2:17 PM
Anonymous said...
I believe that the majority of posts on this forum seem to be of a genuine and concerning nature, there are as always posts that are purely antagonistic however the facts that have progressed us to this outcome / outcomes are unequivocal, from the commencement of dialogue between the parties the HSU always advised its members to be compliant with all IRC instructions, where has it lead us? Loss of meals / call offs, a roster proposal that provides a further loss of wages and annual leave etc.
The last State delegates meeting saw the division once again of its members and Sub branches as you all will be aware the vote to implement some form of action was 10-4 against. The service has once again achieved its outcome thanks to its own staff.
In relation to the “day off” on the 27th sick leave is an award entitlement is very difficult to prove that its some form of action. What will happen if it’s considered such? Nothing we have nothing left to trade off or provide in closing thanks to the HSU for my pay cut (on an award that took some 4 plus years to ratify, CPI was at 4% during this time so I lost 16% even prior to starting) thanks for the new rosters which will extend my working hours by 64 hours of 16 weeks and this is being implemented on a fatigue based argument? Thanks for my forced annual leave which now means if I wish to go on a holiday in the summer with my kids I must wait till 2013, and finally thanks for giving up the rescue, THANKS HSU FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
February 27, 2009 2:18 PM
Anonymous said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
February 27, 2009 2:19 PM
Anonymous said...
The HSU won't let it happen
They are about improving our work conditions not going backwards.
You non believers have got to keep the faith.
The HSU is amounting an arsenal of industrial weapons to unleash at precisely the right time.
Now I hear on good authority that this will happen when Liberal gets voted in at next election.
Thats years away you say, well come on, I know you are all patient-I mean you all waited 4 years for pay claim debarcle, hang in there
February 27, 2009 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
The problem as I see it is that the union, and I use that term loosely, it is broken into so many sub-branches that the left hand doesn’t understand or comprehend what the right is doing. Also there are too many delegates with too many agendas and too many nitwits that wouldn’t be able to spell fairness or equity let alone understand what it means.
The previous anonymous spoke of impartiality, being proper and unbiased etc. Well my friend that won’t happen. Unfortunately the majority, with the most votes, WITH THE MOST TO GAIN, will rule the day. For example, I haven’t heard too much hype lately with respect to the 80 officers who just had their careers in rescue destroyed.
Yes as we all know HSU is run by the Labor party and are in bed with our management (remember management got the big pay rise not us). But we also need to have a look at the course of action we take as individuals. Take a look at the ever-increasing number of skills and pharmacology’s being mailed out to us, all accepted with no remuneration.
Think of it from service’s perspective, why should we consider paying these clowns an allowance when they will do it for nothing anyway…..HELLO. We need to start standing up for ourselves because as most of us realise by now we can’t rely on management’s union…..I mean our union…. right??
And if you can’t stand up for yourselves and say NO!!!! then don’t believe what your sub-branch delegates tell you. Most of them have no idea what they’re doing in any event.
February 27, 2009 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...
I agree big time! There has been some talk about changing unions, can that be done?Can anyone shed some light on that? I think it's time we were in a union that represents emergency service people not cleaners,radiographers and such like.I can't believe my sub branch voted to accept that bullshit 4%. I didn't want that and i'm sure the majority of us didn't,how can they do that shit?.Can we get together and tell our sub-branch to get that cancelled? I believe we should be taking strong industrial action now and not waiting. Nurses, Cops,got their pay rises what wrong with us? How about the media campaign for the nurses! T.V ads all the time. On the radio, now look at our piss-weak unions efforts, Stickers and other crap! I'm sick of being the nice guy and copping it sweet. Lets get together fellow ambo's and get what we deserve. The most trusted profession and the most ripped off! We deserve to be paid a professional wage. Don't sell your selves short. Time to get tough and be a solid strong unit!
February 27, 2009 2:23 PM
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 2:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Children. That is what we employ now. Children. What a shame.It used to be such a great job. People hiding behind a blog. I would defy anyone to talk to me face to face they way the little kids here talk. Like a bunch of 12 year olds. No wonder the service treat us like idiots.
February 27, 2009 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...
Hey Rick..... shame on you... i didnt know your wife was a super ?? well now that explains why you would recomend that we stick with a corrupt management owned union.
And as for you "angry HSU delegate... you want to know where you went wrong..? where all of you went wrong ???
You all started thinking you were too smart !! trying to be like cunning management and thinking you could negotiate your way over theres..., talk about everything... ! hey that guy brett Web even thinks that a degree in employee relations makes him a winner.
Well here is a little lesson for you all from the school of hard knocks and a history of street justice that by the way, i have never seen fail.
" The school bully cannot be nogotiated with " GOT IT !!!! he does not care what is fair, what the law says or even what anyone else thinks .... he will continue to dominate and reek havoc unabated until the one and ONLY one thing happens !!!!
Are you ready
(( " P A I N " ))! thats right.... the only thing that is going to make these mutts sit up and listen is when we stand up and knock them on their arse !
O.K. now I am going to give you the ultimate way to inflict that pain..
NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON LEAVES A SINGLE HOSPITAL ANYWHERE IN THE STATE FOR 24 HOURS !
now... I hear you ask.. how do we organise that without the HSU !!!
Well wait up ... i didnt say there was only one bully did I ???
No.... there are two.. and the other is Michael Willaimson... now his whole life has been devoted to his own selfish political career.. SO .. its not easy to guess what his dreaded sorce of P A I N needs to be ! If we all resign from the HSU and make it very public !! that will sit him on his arse. So .. we need to set a date and give him the chance to organise a total ban on anyone leaving hospitals for 24 hours or we ALL leave.
I suggest a date for this could be as early as next week ???
ANY THOUGHTS !
Going Going Gone said...
Everyone will do as they always do.
and look after themselves.
End of story.
Game over.
Morris GONE
Reba GONE
Rescue GONE
Meals GONE
HSU GOING
Labour Party GOING
Rural Entitlements GOING
February 27, 2009 2:35 PM
Anonymous said...
so why do you think we need the HSU ,?,maybe you can enlighted me,on why I should stay.
If you can give me 10 good reasons why, I will leave the blogg forever.
why is everyone so scared of leaving the HSU?
You wont get the sack,you will have a pay rise of 21 dollars afortnight,you wont have contiued dissappointment with bad news from the HSU.
you will be able to run your own race against the government and the svc.
We wont have to listen to whinging about M.Williamson.which everyone does!
if we put our own demands on the Government then we will have a better chance of getting what we are worth.Or are you not that guttsy !!!
well it all sounds pretty good to me.
Dont forget get your resignation in mate or you will miss out,on seeing the light.
February 27, 2009 2:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Dear HSU, you're dropped!
Dear HSU,
This break-up letter should come as no surprise nor cause any heartache to someone as cold hearted as you. Time and again I've tried to get you to show me how much you care. Time and again I've been rudely rebuffed.
I have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
Don't come crawling back on your hands and knees asking me to get lubed up and on mine, because I don't have to put up with that from you or anyone.
You see, to me and people who aren't dead inside like you, our pay demands and death & disability benefits are reasonable requests. They let me know that I am special and very important to you. The ironic things is how you always talked of taking our relationship to the next level, but you're just a Union of words, not actions. You gave me lip service and I wanted my needs serviced. I mean, what's more intimate and meaningful than sweet beautiful cash? You can keep your vows and veils and rings and ceremonies. I want something that actually means something. A pay rise is infinitely more meaningful than a trip down the aisle. It says that what we have is something special, something so important to both of us that it can only be expressed by actions.
But no... you say its dirty. It's wrong. It goes against the god-almighty government. Well boo-fucking-hoo. To us in the real world with hearts that function, that's called love. You don't have to sugar coat it, I know how you really feel about me. Its obvious that you're just hiding behind those absurd reasons because I am not the one for you. I truly hope you find some other poor deluded fools that you can bend over, jelly up, and screw over completely.
But it ain't gonna be me. Sadly, my love, I've got better things to do than being screwed over again and again.
February 27, 2009 2:39 PM
Anonymous said...
No wonder we can't get what we want. We can't agree on the smallest things, so the big shit like a welfare system for Ambos and pay disputes are never going to get fixed. Wake up! THEY love the fact that there is so much division. Lets have a survey where we enter what we want, not what they want to hear for their KPI's and other shit to justify their positions.
February 27, 2009 2:43 PM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Billy W said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
January 24, 2009 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...
really !
Everyone ... and i mean EVERYONE on my station has left the HSU within the last 3 months !
It made me wonder at first why we didnt have a union rep around asking questions... but then i thought about it !
It is impossible to defend their corrupt dealings and they know it !!!
January 24, 2009 9:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes mate you are dead right. I wrote them a registered letter telling them why I had resigned and I have heard nothing. Am I surprised? Not one bit. Last pay I offered to buy everyone an ice cream with the $21 I had saved just to rub it in some more.
January 25, 2009 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...
TODAY SA AMBULANCE:
MAJOR CASE:
THESE RATES MUST HAVE A FURTHER 37% ADDED TO THEM AS AN OPERATIONAL ALLOWENCE
EG: YEAR 4 INTENSIVE CARE PARA BASE RATE APPROX 96,000.00 PA
ATTACHMENT 1
SCHEDULE 1 WAGES1 - SA Ambulance Service Award - 1st January 2007. 2008 and 20092
OPERATIONAL • AMBULANCE TRANSFER SERVICE STREAM
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary (2007 rate + 3.5%) 2009 Annual Salary (2008 rate + 3.5%)
PTS1.1 Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
PTS1.2 Ambulance Officer $36,500 $37,778 $39,100
PTS1.3 Ambulance Officer $39,500 $40,883 $42,313
PTS1.4 Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.1 ESS Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.2 ESS Ambulance Officer $44,500 $46,058 $47,670
PTS 2.1 Team Leader $47,000 $48,645 $50,348
PTS 2.2 Team Leader $50,000 $51,750 $53,561
OPERATIONAL - PROFESSIONAL (EMERGENCY) STREAM
Intern
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
1.1 Intern $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
1.2 Intern $45,000 $46,575 $48,205
Paramedic
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.1 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $49,000 $50,715 $52,490
2.2 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $51,000 $52,785 $54,632
2.3 Paramedic $53,000 $54,855 $56,775
2.4 Paramedic $55,000 $56,925 $58,917
2.5 Paramedic $57,000 $58,995 $61 ,060
2.6 Paramedic $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
Clinical Instructor
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.5 Clinical Instructor $57,000 $58,995 $61,060
2.6 Clinical Instructor $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
1 The applicable weekly amount payable will be ascertained by applying the following formula: annual salary x
(6/313).
2 Operative from the first full pay period on or after 31 December 2006; 31 December 2007 and 31 December 2008.
Without Prejudice
3.2 Clinical Instructor $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Clinical Instructor $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
Sponsored Paramedic Degree Program
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
SPDP1 Probationary Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
SPDP2 Student Ambulance Officer $37,500 $38,813 $40,171
SPDP3 Student Ambulance Officer $40,000 $41,400 $42,849
SPDP4 Student Ambulance Officer $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
Intensive Care Paramedic (ICP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.1 Intensive Care Paramedic Intern $60,000 $62,100 $64,274
3.2 Intensive Care Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Intensive Care Paramedic $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
3.4 Intensive Care Paramedic $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 Intensive Care Paramedic $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
SPRINT Paramedic
3.2 SPRINT Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), ESS (ESSTL), Regional (RTL), Paramedic Development Intern Team Leader (PDITL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.4 CTL/RTL<1 2 reports $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 CTL/RTL <12 reports $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
4.1 ESSTL $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 ESSTL $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
Intensive Care Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), Regional (RTL), Area (ACTL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
Without Prejudice
5.3 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Special Operations Team (SOT), Extended Care Paramedics (ECP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 SOT ICP, ECP $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 SOT ICP, ECP $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 SOT ICP, ECP $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 SOT ICP, ECP $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
5.1 SOT/Retrieval ICP $79,000 $81 ,765 $84,627
5.2 SOT/Retrieval ICP $81,000 $83,835 $86,769
5.3 SOT/Retrieval ICP $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 SOT Clinical Team Leader $86,00 $89,010 $92,125
Clinical Education, Support and Governance
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.2 Clinical Educator $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
5.3 Clinical Support Officer $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 Clinical Support Officer $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Operational Management
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
6.1 Clinical Manager, Patient Services Manager, Risk and Safety Manager, Special Operations Manager, State Duty Manager $96,000 $99,360 $102,838
January 27, 2009 9:43 PM
February 27, 2009 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...
CES/SES
Per annum range
Remuneration Level 8
$348,601
to
$402,750
Remuneration Level 7
$278,001
to
$348,600
Remuneration Level 6
$247,301
to
$278,000
Remuneration Level 5
$214,351
to
$247,300
Remuneration Level 4
$196,651
to
$214,350
Remuneration Level 3
$173,101
to
$196,650
Remuneration Level 2
$161,351
to
$173,100
Remuneration Level 1
$137,800
to
$161,350
the table above represents the ses or state executive serive pay scale, the ce/ceo is on lvl 5 div managers are lvl 1 this does not include performance base contract bonus or retainer allowences these are:
Levels 7 and 8
up to
$35,000
Levels 5 and 6
up to
$27,000
Levels 3 and 4
up to
$19,000
Levels 1 and 2
up to
$15,000
the top table also doesnt state that it is legislation at the start of each year there is a 4% increase (automatic).
what maybe is not also common knowledge is that the ce/ceo under his/her duristiction is the abilty to sign off on a 5% pay increase for their workers. this option was not taken by our ceo, but prefered to take the matter to the courts. it also has been noted the vast amount of money invested by the state government in an attempt to provide a better service to the public. this as we all know has not been the case, the money stays at the higher levels to create personel empires and if their is any surplus will filter down to the coalface level, hence the increase of some 400% of support staff since the arrival of the currnet ceo. this equates to one support staff for every three on road officers and at times you cant even get a leave form signed, a very pathetic enviroment to be in i feel. no doubt at the end of the day the failing radio system, the poor pro q a system, the 6.4 mill dollars for 30 new front vechicles (which we have never seen), the list goes on will all be covered up when they have again finished investigating themselves yet again. the HSU is nothing but a mirror man (ill look into it) setup much like the management of the service and whilst ever we choose to stay under this organisation the prospects for ANY more pay rises (even though it stated the 4% was an interim)is very unlikely.
ive read some funny shit on this blog, but the fucker who spent all day cutting pasting, that wasnt even funny you dumb fucker
maybe a little bit funny
Hey you just messed up my punchline ASSSSHHOOLLEE!!!
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form.”
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One confirmation email!!!!!!!!!!!! Is all it will take you knuckleheads!!!!!!. Anybody told you service emails are monitored, obviously not. It even says it on the bottom of every email you nitwits!!!!.
I thought you guys were switched on. Have you bothered to read the last Parliamentary Inquiry? Remember the little bit about bullying and harassment? The Old Boys Club etc etc etc etc etc. That report was produced only from those who were game enough to speak out.
What a wonderful list of names you will provide them with. I wonder how many suicides through harassment and bullying you will produce with this little blunder. Fuck me!!!
My advice to others is to CONSIDER VERY VERY CAREFULLY about registering. I know how the old boys net works in this service. I lived through it and can say from experience it’s one hell of a ride, As we all know some of our colleagues failed to weather the storm and have left the service one way or another. R.I.P
Be advised these pieces of filth will stop at nothing to try and maintain their control of HSU and the service. Remember ladies and gents management are in HSU with us. Paying members just like us. But unlike us they control the game especially the big plays. Who do you turn to when you are out ranked in your own union and in the organisation you work for. Ever heard of the term “cut down in the crossfire”
SERIOUSLY BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIDER
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form.”
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One confirmation email!!!!!!!!!!!! Is all it will take you knuckleheads!!!!!!. Anybody told you service emails are monitored, obviously not. It even says it on the bottom of every email you nitwits!!!!.
I thought you guys were switched on. Have you bothered to read the last Parliamentary Inquiry? Remember the little bit about bullying and harassment? The Old Boys Club etc etc etc etc etc. That report was produced only from those who were game enough to speak out.
What a wonderful list of names you will provide them with. I wonder how many suicides through harassment and bullying you will produce with this little blunder. Fuck me!!!
My advice to others is to CONSIDER VERY VERY CAREFULLY about registering. I know how the old boys net works in this service. I lived through it and can say from experience it’s one hell of a ride, As we all know some of our colleagues failed to weather the storm and have left the service one way or another. R.I.P
Be advised these pieces of filth will stop at nothing to try and maintain their control of HSU and the service. Remember ladies and gents management are in HSU with us. Paying members just like us. But unlike us they control the game especially the big plays. Who do you turn to when you are out ranked in your own union and in the organisation you work for. Ever heard of the term “cut down in the crossfire”
SERIOUSLY BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIDER
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form.”
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One confirmation email!!!!!!!!!!!! Is all it will take you knuckleheads!!!!!!. Anybody told you service emails are monitored, obviously not. It even says it on the bottom of every email you nitwits!!!!.
I thought you guys were switched on. Have you bothered to read the last Parliamentary Inquiry? Remember the little bit about bullying and harassment? The Old Boys Club etc etc etc etc etc. That report was produced only from those who were game enough to speak out.
What a wonderful list of names you will provide them with. I wonder how many suicides through harassment and bullying you will produce with this little blunder. Fuck me!!!
My advice to others is to CONSIDER VERY VERY CAREFULLY about registering. I know how the old boys net works in this service. I lived through it and can say from experience it’s one hell of a ride, As we all know some of our colleagues failed to weather the storm and have left the service one way or another. R.I.P
Be advised these pieces of filth will stop at nothing to try and maintain their control of HSU and the service. Remember ladies and gents management are in HSU with us. Paying members just like us. But unlike us they control the game especially the big plays. Who do you turn to when you are out ranked in your own union and in the organisation you work for. Ever heard of the term “cut down in the crossfire”
SERIOUSLY BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIDER
There is no “fixing” the problem as the situation stands at the moment. Unless uniformed management suddenly withdraws from the HSU, our union right?, this new association will go ahead. It probably will anyway.
Ambos are not stupid, most now know something dodgey is going on, I’ve known it for years. The old boys club is about to met it’s end.
Withdraw management from our union now before HSU loses any credibility it has left. It’s only a matter of time before the media picks up on this.
Hundreds and hundreds of ambos declaring their union is a sham and corrupt will have an impact, don’t be that naive to believe it won’t.
Remember, we are the most trusted profession.
HSU you have been warned!
SPIDER
The person who keeps cutting and pasting old blogs is a Manager... and is in the HSU !
We know who you are you pathetic idiot and we know you are trying to fill up the blog space and make it so difficult to keep track of that people will no longer use it.
HEY .... JUST FUCK OFF TO THE HOLE YOU CRAWLED OUT OF YOU PATHETIC LITTLE TURD, NOBODY IS GOING AWAY ! NOBODY IS GIVING UP THIS TIME BUDDY AND THE FIGHT YOU KNOW HAVE ON YOUR HANDS IS HERE TO STAY !
Heard that alsmost 50 people went off station for lunch today in protest to losing late meals and call offs.
I heard it from a manager who was boasting that it did not make the slightest bit of difference and that the service will cope no matter what we do !
Come on guys.... lets see if we can make it 100 people off for lunch by next saturday and then 200 and then 300 !
GET MY DRIFT.!
Bullies are used to bieng hit once or twice, its not good enough to just smack them in the face once.... you have to knock them down and then stomp on their heads until a GCS off <8 is achieved in order to make them stop !
Come on guys ... they are steeling from you, then playing you all for fools and then sipping tea and eating cream buns up at Area Offices all over Sydney whilst patting each other on the back telling themselves what great managers they are.
Pritchard has made the comment that this will all blow over so it is up to us to make sure it doesn't.
Apparently Pritchard has an
" INNY "
and I am not talking about belly buttons.
Why would you not go off for lunch, what do you get? a fucken lowsy $11.80 if you are called off lunch in the first 20mins, nothing after that. Any missed lunch time is then added onto end of shift overtime.
Why the FUCK would you bother?
I work in the bush, so just clear it up if you interupted in the first 20 min you get a penalty if it between 20 and 30 minutes you get nothing? you guys have been arse fucked.
I take great offence at you calling the manager a TURD, remember the TURD is our only friend in this.
Regardless of what you think of the award, why arent people sighting chapter 25, reasonable hours of overtime when they give you a cold response at 10 minutes to nock off tell em you have a family commitment.
Pritchard is not only a financial member of the HSU, he is also represented by them, like us. Also he has Micheal williamson as State Secretary of his union, like us.
Do you think HSU would do anything if Pritchard was harrassing or making things hard for you?. No chance!.
In fact I have never heard HSU address the issue of bullying and harrasment in this service at all. They always just blame Rochford. I wonder why?
Do you think that Pritchard would have any input into the conditions of our award (if he wanted to)?
He is not only a member of the HSU and a person of influence within that organisation but also a person of High Rank and influence within the service.
WELCOME TO THE OLD BOYS CLUB FOOLS!!
SPIDER
"Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely"
Re the overtime:
I don't think they care!!!
It doesn't matter to them that you have a life outside the job. So long as they can say they have responded a car then that's all that matters to them regardless of how trivial the job may be.
I know of crews out West that have incurred up to 6 hours of unwanted OT because the service won't increase the MOL'S to keep up with the workload. It's easy for coord and management when they can pull up stumps and go home at the designated time. Hopefully when the Association gets up and running they will address this as HSU sure won't.
READ THE AWARD you do not have to do 6 hours overtime, you have to do reasonable overtime, then read chapter 25 its in black and white, tell them to fuck off
Christ you lot are a bunch of misguided fools except you Spider and I will get to you in a minute. Of course the dispatchers (I would never use the term Co-Ordinators these days because they couldn't co-ordinate a trip to the shithouse) don't care if you have a life or not. That isn't their job. With exceptions and there are a few all they care about is getting the jobs cleared. That isn't anything new. That has been going on since I can remember and that is a bloody long time. Remember the old days when you asked to get off on time. You ALWAYS worked back. Some things are never going to change so get used to it. The thing I don't understand is why people would want to join this mob these days. I can remember when I joined I was getting about $10 an hour more than I was getting for my trade. My trade now pays $65 an hour while we get $27!!! today. Now Spider you are dead right about the old boys club still being out there and Pritchard is top of the heap now Marks has gone. Who taught him everything he knows. The biggest and baddest of the old boys mob himself god rest his soul. Make no mistake KP is not out there to make our lives better. Only his own. Such a shame to see a nice guy run with the mob. He has created a lot of jobs in Sydney though. Jobs for the boys and girls he likes. This job is never going to be a patch on what it was. We have no solidarity. Remember the walk on McKell. We stood together and walked. It worked too. Today each of us would kill the next bloke to get more money or a better cushier job. Such a shame it has come to this. Those Sturt Uni people coming in and thinking they are the best ambo's in the service because they have a degree. They obviously believe the hype they are told. I long for the days when we stood side by side and you could trust your fellow ambo. I joined this job as a keen 23 year old and am now 54. I had the audacity to get sick a while back and got screwed sideways by management some of who I have known all my career. Those same people will get sick one day too but they will not have to go through what I did because they have shit on their shoulder and know the right people. How much money are they getting out of us with this D&D shit. Compulsory payments that most of us will never have a chance to claim on even if we do get genuinely sick. The only company in the universe that will let them take money of us and we do nothing but talk about what we are going to do. Blah blah..The ferry engineers get a 10% rise on a threat of a strike. Same with teachers. Both definately would disrupt the public if they walked. But not us.Oh no. We are only a bunch of whining ambo's who talk about paperwork bans. Williamson was on Ray Hadley the other day giving the talk about how the IRC has threatened to fine us individually if we strike. Oh are we scared. Well they can't put all of us in gaol so why don't we call their bluff for once. I am willing to put it to the test. LESS money!!! We have given so much away over the years for a payrise (yearly uniforms to name one and look how bloody crook we look these days with our Malaysian summer sweat shirts) and now we give away money. I have it on good authority the pay offices around the state have no way of knowing if we have been called off lunch or even been given it. Claim a call off once a week and see if they pay it. I bet they do. Claim it on the day you walk off the station for your lunch break. That would be even funnier. My morals tell me it is wrong but since the srvice and union have none I guess it is only fair. The day I walked into Rozelle for the first time was a very happy day for me but I can tell you the day I leave the job will be even happier. I won't look back. I will take some great friendships with me though and some good times but I pity you young ones just starting out. When the job overwhelms you one day and it does there is going to be nobody to turn to like there was for me. It can change but we need to stick together or we are doomed. P.A.P I miss you man. Where are you hiding.
Worn out Ambo,
I hear you brother. Them were the good olds days all right. We all stuck together and looked after those who were struggling. Now it seems as if it’s every man for himself and if someone can cut your throat in the process to earn some brownie points they will. I could tell you some of the things I have gone through but I can’t because it would give away my identity. The harassment I endure today is much less than what it was and I want to keep it that way.
I have been posting on this site now for many many months trying to explain the corrupt relationship between management and the HSU. I’ve copped quiet allot of criticism over that time but expect it’s mainly been from the more junior ambos in the service or members from the old boys club themselves. You’re probably one of the few posters that confirm the workings of the old boys club. It was very refreshing and encouraging to read your blog.
I am starting to find it difficult to understand why Rochford has not identified this problem as well. Surely he must have an idea of what’s going on by now, the evidence is overwhelming.
Maybe he doesn’t know how to tackle it or fix this problem is my guess. Taking management out of our union would have so many other ramifications it's not funny. It would set a precedent that would affect so many other organisations in Australia it would be a nightmare for the IRC to administer let alone consider. It would certainly be difficult with labor government in power.
Unfortunately, I fear that Rochford will be another scalp that the old boys will claim just like his predecessors.
Take care brother,
SPIDER
talking about workers comp I know a D/O who regularly undermines workers comp claims by telling the GIO that the officer had a prvious history of the injury and was just trying to rip of the service as happened to me. GIO even sent me a letter confirming this. Who do i report it to? no-one will listen. now I have to take it thorugh the courts and it will take years of stress and waiting to achieve any sort of outcome. the same D/O is a known harrsser in my area. It was mentioned in a government hansard that the service paid out $100,000.00 to an officer he had harrased. Mentioned her name but not his. but here is crazy bit he has just been promoted further up the management ladder. It's got me fucked!
Now if you had put in a submission to the enquiry you could claim harrassment from him because of it. There is good reason why some people put their name to the enquiry. It is now against the law to discriminate against these people because of their reports. That DO is a dog and needs to be outed. Fuck the service for protecting him.In their eyes he has probably done a great job.I would out him here mste.
Its not just you ambos that are bullyed and harrassed,they have extended themselves to the partners and wives!!!
Yesterday,the wife of an ambo who passed away nov07,from a terminal disease,was told that she would have to pay 48cents in the dollar for her D&D payment.
that worked out to be 74K.
Now this was because the claim,so Rochford told her was longer than 12 months old,even though the claim was put in days after his death.
Rochford and his merry men held this up for 15 months,even knowing that this women,was going to lose her house.
So if its not bad enough they take COs&Meals away,make your Hrs longer,dont give breaks and then make you pay for D&D at an overpriced amount,and then wont pay or make you wait untill they have to pay less.
But it does get worse,she recieved aphone call last night,to say the svc will pay her the full amount and not to worry at this stage about the tax.you might think this sounds good,but there is a catch,,,
she will have to pay the tax(74K)at the end of the finacial year,when she lodges a tax return,only,,,,, then she will think,,, i will ring Rochford about this he will say,,,,"oh sorry you must of misunderstood the SVCs position",and you will have to take this up with the taxation department.
Now Iam here to tell you,,,as you are all proberly aware anyway,how much this is awaste of your money.
But I know there are many other Ambos waiting for their payment,but do you think they will get it without a fight,,,i think not!!!
I have contacted some radio stations today,and written many emails and letters with my concerns,that we go without to pay for this,money that could be better used,we are currently getting less because of penalitys that have gone,and if somethink happens to my husband,am I going to have to fight to get somethink that he has paid into to protect his wife and children!!!
and NO iam notbeing greedy either,because there are plenty out there who are worse off than me,,,but SHIT how could this jappen,when I thought everything was supposed to be transparent.
Over the next few weeks Iam going to not let this died in the public arena,,,, I will be Anonymous though,as we all know what happens when an ambo speaks out.
You see Iam not an Ambo,and Rochford has now crossed the line and come into my demayne,and I wont stand back allow him to ripp me off,put undue stress on the wives and familys when their loved one are hurt or killed.
Rochford I hope you are reading this,you are nothing but a guttless prick,,,,the lowest of the lows.I hope you drop dead,with great pain and suffering !!!!!!!!
At least it's not just ambo's on this site that can't spell or use correct english.
No I thinks it more I cant type!!!!and I need Glasses!!!!
sorry you get the message dont you !!!!!
or are you one of those ambos that like paying for somethink you wont get!!!
Name names lovey, do it. Do it for your friend having trouble. Do it go on. ANd name that do, I would love to know his/her name.
His Name was Barry Triton.His poor wife watched her poor husband died a tragic death.Then to put up with this crap some 15 months later is just typical of this Svc.
Are you happy now?It will be no secret on 2UE over the next 2 days.
Also dont patronise me,,,, calling me lovey,,, I may not be the best speller,as you think,but atleast iam not as guttless as your so wonderous leader and is merry men.
Or is this the wonderous leader now,,,why dont you put your name on your next blogg.....GRONK!!!!
anonymous 3 mar 120pm
i'm pretty sure i know the former D/O you are talking about unless there is anther one that does the same thing. the one in my area is nicknamed the brown snake by everyone. he has intimidated and harassed alot of ambos in my area. management love him and expect he got promoted by being seen to be hard on the troops. so do some of our low life hsu delegates, if someone speaks out about piss poor representation or whatever from hsu these delegates call him in and they attack him or her like a pack of hungry hyenas. he is a slippery as a wet turd but comes across as a really nice guy. but don't be fooled he will find a way to get you, case sheets generally, or at leasdt stir you up until you tell him to fuck off. and when you do he calls in managers above him saying you have issues or your unstable. when it gets to that stage your credibilty is shot with other managers and it's game over.
"Slippery as a wet TURD"
How fucken Australian is that.
That is Choice.
Slippery wet turds and turds in medication bags, I FUCKEN love it.
The TURD is the only thing that gives me satisfaction.
The only fucken wet slippery turd is rochford.
so rochford what excuses are you going to say on radio today?
I wil be listening to see how you are going to cover this one up!
your demise will come,dont worry about that sunshine.
Thats the ticket !!! NAME NAMES !!! I knew it would take an ambo's wife to find the guts to do it though.
But www.paramedicsnsw.org.au is where we all need to start naming these bully's ! thats how we are going to GET them.
If we all do this and all stick together with this group of highly committed ambos who have actually put actions to their words then we can eventually stop this from happening to others.
And to those people calling "off staion" for lunch from all sectors ..... WELL DONE !!!
A confirmed report yesterday was that over 90 cars over Sydney were unavailabe for work, for at least one hour !
This is really biting them and sooner or later, they will get the message.
thanks for the support,but the other site is not open to ambo wives,,,,nor should it be.
Iam over the whole bullying shit,and when they start to bully the wives,familys,its time to speak out.Who else are we going to talk to,when everyone is a potential enemy.
One can only go to the media,but even then they too arent to interested at times.Why?
This needs support from Ambos too,this effects all of you,,do you want your familys to have to fight to get what they are entitle to.
Just remember its you who are paying for this schemme,no one else.Your hard earn cash.
Tell me would you all be so keen to hand over cash to Joe Blow up the road,who tells you,with very little understanding of what your paying for,,,,makeing sure there are no surprises,well thats exactly whats happening,,,and changeing the rules as they go along,with hidden loop holes,that after 12months of no payment,this then attracts a tax.
This is alarge chunk of money each fortnight,are we getting our moneys worth?,,,I think not.
The new secret society of the Ambulance service is slowly but surely gathering momentum. Paramedics.org. Enter at your own risk and supply your svc email and we will let you in. The blog stated to stay tune we will be up and running in a couple of weeks, what a load of bullshit.Where is their continual updates and support.
Who is even running the show for fuck sake.
Do not be sucked in by these people, do not give them your email. Better still do not show your support by joining until they prove themselves.
Remember enter at your own risk.
Dear G.R is a C**T (Well you certainly got that right!)
"The new secret society", I love it. Now my hubby can have what the senior executive has had for years, does he get a secret handshake and fries with that?
"Enter at your own risk": Are you so scared that showing your support for this new association will get little diddums into trouble?
"Who is even running the show for fuck sake": It seems they may be people like you, scared of their own shadow. If you believe in something why don't you stand up for it?
"Do not be sucked in by these people, do not give them your email" What are you afraid of spam mail???
"Better still do not show your support by joining until they prove themselves" Now what a clever idea that is, did you think it up all by yourself? It will never get off the ground if you all sit on your hands waiting for someone else to make things happen.
"Remember enter at your own risk" Ohhaahh be afraid, be very afraid.
The last time I looked Australia was still a free country.
You will never get anywhere if you don't help make it work. You let the service run all over you and what do you do, just sit back, throw a tantrum and wait and wait and wait for someone with some guts to come along and save you all.
Someone said "For evil to flourish all it takes is for men of good will to do nothing". That about sums it up don't you think?
Get a life do you lot think you live in Burma or something? Do you think you will be beaten and get thrown into jail?
How many of you have openly gone to the media and told them what is really going on in the service. No one, except for Phil Roxburgh God bless him.
You all make me sick, you let the service ruin my husband's career and did nothing.
We spouses are sick of listening to all the drivel you come home from a shift with.
TO G.R is a C**T
I think the biggest risk any ambo can take is to join the HSU.
Tell me,, because I must of missed somethink here,,,,What in Gods Sake has the HSU done for me????
What has happened in the last 12 months?
conditions gone,
pay loss,
should i go on?
Who really fucking cares anymore if rochford reads this,or managers for that matter.
We have nothing to lose,nothing,except our jobs,,and I can tell you I dont even care about that anymore!!!
The Dole line looks good to me!!!!
To Sercret Squirel,
Yeah i cant agree more.Iam also a ambos wife.
Ive seen my husband turn from a normal human being to almost a wreck,all because these weak bastards cant stand up for themselves,Yes it takes a ambos wife to speak out,I have had a gut full of all the crap.
20yrs is far to long,crimminals in jail get it easier than our husbands.
Maybe its time for the wives to take over this blogg,have our own meetings,have a support group,and go to the media.
The Svc has been able to bully for far to long,,,,now they (Rochford) have crossed the line and is now coming after th familys,e.g
Barry Tritons,wife.
I have taken this to the media over the past 2 days,,,Iam hopeing more will come of it.
My Husband believes that the other site should be open to the spouses.How else are we to contribute,maybe the opperators of the other site may be able to work on a system where the ambo is able to apply,and have their spouses email registered for the blogg?
Just a thought,you know the old saying"behinde every good man is a great women"
anyway secret squirel,its great to hear from another.keep your chin up,I feel the battle has really just begun.
I think we should have a state wide, "Give your Ambo hubby a blowjob day" that will boost some morale
I bet that comment came from a bloke!
thats where your brains are!!!!
and you are properly still a member of the HSU,,,,wanker
I bet that comment came from a bloke!
thats where your brains are!!!!
and you are properly still a member of the HSU,,,,wanker
Well luv my sympathies go out to your family. My point is if can't trust our management, our union and our fellow work mates who vote against us in sub branch union meetings so who can you trust.
My other point is this so called new association now has blocked previous members access but will allow access on the priviso you supply a work email.
WHY.
Call it what you will but i know of a sector manager up on the central Coast that keeps names of people who are not union members, what the fuck for.
Now if that is not aform of intimidation what the fuck is it.
This is not sitting on my hands rather i am just being careful who i provide my details to.
I do not hate this job i just hate the fuckers that have their own agendas and ambitions whether that be management or the corrupt union delegates we voted for that continually screw us over and who misrepresent us and put forward votes on our behalf.
I would love nothing more than to see ICAC get involved and jail these pricks.
And to any manager out there reading this on the day it comes for you to retire you won't get a thank you either, you will only go down in the history of the asnsw as another cunt that wore the same uniform.
haven't seen any named bullies on this blog yet, must all be lies. if ya goin ta bag the fuckers out then name the aresholes otherwise shut the fuck up about bullying and get back to work you gutless morons
love g rochfud
Well if you read the blog correctly you inbred fuck it would not take a genius to work out who they are talking about.
Maybe legal action might be a concern, don't you think.
How about crawling back up GR arse where ya belong, cause i am sure you would have a certificate to practice in that field.
theres nothing wrong with the new manager on the central coast at least hes prepared to have a go
I agree he is only working within the rules that were made.
by OUR CORRUPT FUCKING UNION
I worked twice in 2 different areas of the service with a manager who should be running this service. He recently retired and was told by his bosses he was never going to go any higher because he got on too well with the rank and file. There is your answer right there. Problem is. Some young buck decides to get some rank and has a degree in shit carting so with his 3 years service behind him he puts in for an SO's oops sorry a Team Leader's job at a busy station and gets it. Now he not only has to work the road with all the shit that goes with it but he has to do his TL work as well. So 3 months later management decide to test his metal and offer him an acting DO's job. He gets a car, no nightshifts, a pay rise and gets to pretty much do as he pleases and a DO's job is shit easy. Long as you can delegate you are good to go. So he has a choice. He can look after his men and women and management will see he is weak and not up to being a boss and he will never see an ADO job again OR he can be a prick and look good in the eyes of the bosses and probably get a permo DO appt within 12 months. What would you do? I have been at meetings with management as an ASO and had them bagging outevery officer on the books. When I said " do you bag the shit out of me like that when I am not here" they just looked me in the eye and said of course we do. It takes a special person to be a boss and the service grooms them to fit.
You mean the same union who allows the service to put us on a sick leave probation if we have more than 6 single sick leave periods. We get 15 days a year we should be able to take them. Can't believe they allowed that to go through either. I don't remember getting asked about that.
Eric Talbot,
Well said, good to see someone else knows what is going on. You forgot to mention that these meetings where ambos are bagged out by managers, the managers are also paying HSU members just like us. If your in the club and seen to play their schoolboy game your protected, if not things can go badly for you as happened to me. Christine Hodder is a perfect example. She spoke out and obviously spoke out about one of the protected ones or a few of them.
I believe she even took her complaints outside the service. Unfortunately any complaints made to external agencies are referred back to the service for an explanation. Report something to the Minister, ICAC or the Ombudsman and they will just ask the service for an explanation. The PSCU which is grossly understaffed in turn requests a report from the particular Division involved where it is then sent down the line probably for some D/O to investigate.
That’s when the truth starts to get jaded or the cover up begins. Depending who is involved and their level of protection, as I mention before, will determine if the truth about the matter will ever surface. Also the truth may also be covered up by managers higher up the chain because they fear they might get a kick in the arse for not managing the problem properly in the first place. Information from the investigation is passed back up to the Divisional Managers who tell Rochford there is no problem because they too want to be seen as good managers especially when Rochford renews their performance contracts.
Furthermore, if there is a question about the integrity of the investigation the investigator can always rely on HSU to support them as they will argue that they have never been trained to conduct an investigation in the first place.
In the end Rochford reports back to the external agency with some dodgey information he has been given saying that there has been a thorough investigation and that the complaint made by the officer is unsupported. Obviously this happened in the Christine Hodder case and will continue until management and all of their corrupt dealings with our union are removed once and for all.
And here is the outrageous bit. HSU then attacks Rochford through the media because he relied on his managers (HSU members) to do the right thing in the first place.
SPIDER
Spider. Your last post confirms you are without doubt a fucking idiot and really have no idea!!!!
Can you be more specific nitwit. I doubt it.
SPIDER
Hey spider... well done !
You are dead right yet again and anyone who has been on the end of one of these investigations knows only to well what you are talking about ... dont pay any attention to that last idiot !
Hey did you see that late last night, ken pritchard offered an alternate to the 16 week roster he has been trying to shove down our throats with the help of the HSU for the last few weeks ???
SEE !... it is working this pressure we are putting them under with a united front of everyone going off station for luch is working...
Yep listen all you non believers out there !!! they are hurting and hurting bad because for once (without any help from the HSU) we are standing together and saying ENOUGH !!
I say keep it up and soon you will see money following this roster alternative as well !!!
Like i said before, the only thing a bully understands is outright defiance and immediate and serious action !!!
NOTHING ELSE WORKS !!!
NEVER FORGET THAT.
Anonymous,
Initially I was concerned that taking lunch off station might be seen to the media and the public as unprofessional and attract some criticism. Then again they might think look at the lengths these guys have to go to to get a fair go. I don’t work in your area and therefore I am not affected by the new rosters so I don’t know much about it.
It really must be surreal though when KP, paid union delegates and our own delegates sit down at the table to negotiate the new rosters. Everyone there is on the same side being in the same union and all. Talk about multiple personalities. I would expect the most boisterous or politically connected one would eventually get their our way. I wonder who that might be?
It would do my head in for sure.
Take care Brother,
SPIDER
Um Hi been reading these blogs to try and get an appreciation of what is happening with the Ambos, and this may seem like a dumb question but what does SVC stand for??
Spider. Your latest posts confirm you are without doubt a fucking idiot and really have no idea!!!!
dear nosey bob:
SVC stands for Service, as in Ambulance Service of NSW.
It used to be called a service, but due to staff shortages, and masses of increases of bureaucrats and their hugs salaries we have had to remove the word service to save money, hence it is now SVC
I heard the central coast ambo's are NOT taking their meal off station.
Why?
it is working a treat out here in the western sector.
C'mon, this is our last chance to give em hell for a while
how can we take our meals off station,we are stuck at Gosford Hospital,or standing by at jobs,or station.
unlike Sydney we only the choice of 2 hospitals,gosford which is a basket case 99% of the time,and Wyong 110% of the time,and are select on what they can take.
So now you might have an idea why COs and Meal Pen were so important.
we just dont get meals with or without the pens.
If its working such "atreat",,,,why arent the penalitys been returned?
To knob from the west complaining about CC ambos not taking their meals off stn, Its working so well taking your meal off in in Sydney you that you sydney cunts are getting the 4x4 while we get the 4x5. You fuckers voted against industrial action last week and now you put shit on us for not going off stn. Good work useless cunt. Hope you enjoy 2 weeks of ADO's at flat rate.
Let them have it! Seriously, c'mon gang all out! or at least all off station for meals, not OT etc. It hurts a little at first but think of the big picture and the termoil it will cause and bye the way, smash your sickies. it feels good to give yourself mini annual leave breaks. That's what the Firies do! Just get more organinsed. Corrupt Union. Corrupt management. Corrrupt State Govrnment. What a bunch of clowns they are. Pitty us to have them for another 5 years? It will be there last. Don;t forget to ring in to 2gb and send emails to Alan Jones and Ray Hadley. They know we are beeing reemed. Thank God i joined the Cops. I feel for my ex brothers but at the same time have lost a little respect bucause you can can not pull together.
Last comment. Sorry about the spelling but i have now become an alcoholic due to the Ambulance Service.
Dear GR is a c**t
Which CC manager keeps a list of non union members the old or new one, Dent or Elliott? I hear the sub branch delegates tell em. Those two delegates are pushing for skill mix the fuckers and they want to get rid of the Terrigal and Ettalong afternoon shifts and further decrease the MOL's. I bet they're on the management payroll.
Oh yes your right the last poster. Union delegates sucking up to management at our expense to further their own careers. How many times have we seen that, screwing the troops over to earn some brownie points. Just like those delegates who negotiated with the service to keep single officer stations as long as they could just so they could make Living Away from Home Allowance and Call-Out money because they were the ones who backed these single officer stations up. No regard for the patients or other ambos just wanted to make some money for themselves. Talk about filth.
I am afraid you took me the wrong way when I said its working a treat,
I meant thats its really pissing the management off.
I am definately not happy about any award change anywhere in the state.
But I will forgive you for jumping down my throat, the service has turned us all in to cranky cunts.
I NEVER used to tell a patient "get in lets go"
That is now the first thing I say to them, unless they are sick, which is fucking rarely.
They have turned me into a monster.
I am disapointed in myself as much as I am the service.
SORRY
FUCKEN NOT
There's an update on the formation of an Association on www.paramedicsnsw.org.au for those of you (like me) who trust that forum and are happy to log on give it a read.
The new Sector manager for the CC keeps a list of non union members. The old one was to fuckin stupid to keep a list beause it was to much work for him.
More to the point why the fuck his he still in the job?
Fuck Off.
Obviously someone is a bit sensitive about what is being said on this blogsite. Maybe a corrupt manager or a corrupt HSU sub-branch delegate. Maybe both, maybe they are takings turns at sitting on each others laps. Hi boys!
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Real NSW ambos have their say... finally! Unfiltered by bosses, the union or anyone!
Monday, October 8, 2007
Enough is enough!
Hi there, fellow ambo's.
How many times can we be shafted? Ripped off pay wise, ripped off workload wise, under-staffed, over-worked, treated like shit in general by management, not looked after by the State Government, not to mention a piss-weak union.
A few of us have put together this site to allow real ambos to have their say, unfiltered by bosses, governments or union reps. You can have your say, too, in the comments. Join in; we really want to hear from you (even if you disagree with what we say). You can also contact us at realambo.gmail.com.
Save the address http://realambo.blogspot.com/ in your bookmarks.
Posted by Real Ambo at 3:40 PM
3576 comments: «Oldest ‹Older 3401 – 3576 of 3576 Newer› Newest» Anonymous said...
I am to understand that on the 27th the meals go but up the coast we will not have the new roster.
Do they expect us to be available during our 1 hour unpaid meal break or will they be paying us for all hours worked that day with a 30min crib break?
If it's still the 1 hour unpaid meal break you would have to have rocks in your head not to go off station.
I won't be in on the 27th either.
FUCK EM
February 22, 2009 4:30 PM
Anonymous said...
I guess Spider your one of those who like to talk.
the HSU has been talking for many years and what did it get us
loss of pay,,,
loss of conditions,,,
loss of sanity,,
loss of ambos lives,,
to take one day off (27th)wil be in respect for the ones who took their lives through the actions(lack off)from the svc,
I suggest all,because if for one day it makes you feel good ,just bloody do it.
February 22, 2009 5:09 PM
Anonymous said...
Thats right.
The diplomatic softly softly approach certainly did work for us.
I am another NO SHOW on the 27th
February 22, 2009 6:28 PM
Anonymous said...
go and take a day off you dumb fucks. the irc ruled that theres no industrial action, if double the average amount of sickies go on the 27th, thats industrial action wether you organise it or the union does, go on do it, you dumb fuckers, see what happens on the news that night when our pay is cut to last septembers rates and we still get the fucked up rosters. Sit at home feeling good about yourself, I have taken a stand yeah it will be make all the difference.
February 22, 2009 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...
your a fuckwit. And full of shit.
February 22, 2009 8:30 PM
Anonymous said...
fuck you roachford idiot, i am off too.
February 22, 2009 8:31 PM
Anonymous said...
What! are you a manager or something fuckwit?
Try and prove its industrial action.
What a load of shit.
And yes I will feel very GOOD sitting at home knowing that the wheels have fallen off.
And I couldn't give a fuck what the public or the news says about it.
NEWS FLASH dickhead. They all think we are SOFTCOCKS anyway.
Now off you go MR AMBULANCE and suck Willis's tiny one.
February 22, 2009 8:40 PM
Anonymous said...
fuckhead the irc will prove it, make sure you go and get a certiicate from your doctor
February 22, 2009 9:41 PM
Anonymous said...
Have just spoken to two more who definately wont be in for work on the
27th !
February 22, 2009 10:03 PM
Anonymous said...
Thosse of us calling in sick why don't we call an ambulance to take us to hospital for a medical cert, just like the rest of NSW? When they ask if im completely awake or am i breathing normally, i won't know so i get a car quicker!
February 22, 2009 10:43 PM
Anonymous said...
Why are the country rescue blokes still doing rescue? How come they haven't told the service to stick it up their arse in protest. I would be telling them to get the FB to do it if they are so good at it. Oh yeah that's right they are only retained in the country aren't they. Well stiff shit rescue bored.
February 22, 2009 10:55 PM
Anonymous said...
Doctors certificate is the go.
Its easy.
Doctor I feel so crook in the guts, I have just recieved a paycut of up to $500 a week on average, I have all these bills etc......I have been up all night vomitting with worry.
You wouldn't be telling a fucken lie so DO IT, 27th OFF.
February 23, 2009 6:19 AM
Anonymous said...
Take the day off said.......I also think it is great idea. 27th is good for me and i will also be asking the others at my station to do the same. I'm sick of being in a position, where i feel helpless. Oh i feel sick enough to have a week off.
February 23, 2009 7:14 AM
Anonymous said...
Hi there, fellow ambo's.
How many times can we be shafted? Ripped off pay wise, ripped off workload wise, under-staffed, over-worked, treated like shit in general by management, not looked after by the State Government, not to mention a piss-weak union.
A few of us have put together this site to allow real ambos to have their say, unfiltered by bosses, governments or union reps. You can have your say, too, in the comments. Join in; we really want to hear from you (even if you disagree with what we say). You can also contact us at realambo.gmail.com.
Save the address http://realambo.blogspot.com/ in your bookmarks.
posted by Real Ambo at 3:40 PM on Oct 8, 2007
February 23, 2009 7:15 AM
SPIDER said...
Make them suffer,
Re: Soft Cocks
Look at me, look at me. What an impressive command of the English Vocabulary you have. A true wordsmith if ever there was one.
Maybe we could exchange emails and I could come around to your place?
You could give me a quiz at your cherished Bunderburg Rum Ute that is full of a variety of emptied beer cans. You could even loan me your bestest Hustler magazine. Maybe you would even attempt to impress me with your collection of photographs that resemble male and female genitals.
Whatever the case, there is no doubt in my mind that meeting you would be a extraordinary experience.
Nitwit.
SPIDER
February 23, 2009 12:12 PM
Have a go said...
Or how about I just cave your Fucken head in hard cunt!
February 23, 2009 3:11 PM
mR sNoT said...
I believe that the majority of posts on this forum seem to be of a genuine and concerning nature, there are as always posts that are purely antagonistic however the facts that have progressed us to this outcome / outcomes are unequivocal, from the commencement of dialogue between the parties the HSU always advised its members to be compliant with all IRC instructions, where has it lead us? Loss of meals / call offs, a roster proposal that provides a further loss of wages and annual leave etc.
The last State delegates meeting saw the division once again of its members and Sub branches as you all will be aware the vote to implement some form of action was 10-4 against. The service has once again achieved its outcome thanks to its own staff.
In relation to the “day off” on the 27th sick leave is an award entitlement is very difficult to prove that its some form of action. What will happen if it’s considered such? Nothing we have nothing left to trade off or provide in closing thanks to the HSU for my pay cut (on an award that took some 4 plus years to ratify, CPI was at 4% during this time so I lost 16% even prior to starting) thanks for the new rosters which will extend my working hours by 64 hours of 16 weeks and this is being implemented on a fatigue based argument? Thanks for my forced annual leave which now means if I wish to go on a holiday in the summer with my kids I must wait till 2013, and finally thanks for giving up the rescue, THANKS HSU FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
February 23, 2009 6:56 PM
Anonymous said...
You wont have to worry about hurting the public,if we all take a sickie on the 27th,from what I hear the new probationers that will be entering our workforce over the next 12months will do it for us,and even on a bigger scale.
Apparently one who gets to the interview is not asked any relevent questions about why they wish to be an Ambo,,,,,all they are asked is,,,,can you start on this date!,,,next interview please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my advise is dont train a probie if you can help it,,,,because any problems you are going to be the one to blame,,,,we all no how it works.
February 23, 2009 7:17 PM
mr hanky said...
Fuck me, I can't stop pissing myself.
I heard that someone sent Roachford a TURD in a medication bag.
And they keep sending him tea bags.
That is FUCKEN FUNNY.
February 23, 2009 8:05 PM
fuck em said...
I am off 27th
February 23, 2009 9:03 PM
Anonymous said...
From Saturday, if meal pens do go for good, everyone pls go off station for code 20 for your UNPAID 1hr lunch break. Put your feet up and REST before the next R7 comes down the shute, its been tough for everyone recently -ICP's this action includes you too!
February 24, 2009 10:11 AM
Anonymous said...
There is no “fixing” the problem as the situation stands at the moment. Unless uniformed management suddenly withdraws from the HSU, our union right?, this new association will go ahead. It probably will anyway.
Ambos are not stupid, most now know something dodgey is going on, I’ve known it for years. The old boys club is about to met it’s end.
Withdraw management from our union now before HSU loses any credibility it has left. It’s only a matter of time before the media picks up on this.
Hundreds and hundreds of ambos declaring their union is a sham and corrupt will have an impact, don’t be that naive to believe it won’t.
Remember, we are the most trusted profession.
HSU you have been warned!
February 24, 2009 1:37 PM
Anonymous said...
anonymous 1:37,
It wont matter if management leave the HSU,Williamson wont fight for anyone,when are you going to work it out.
He is a Labour puppet,he has far to much influence in the Svc and is far to close to Greg,he has put to much time into his own career and all his Trustee positions to fight for anything or anyone!
Its time to move on from the HSU,join the new association,make sure managers are not allowed to join,and then hope to god they will do somethink.
move on!!!!
February 24, 2009 2:23 PM
Anonymous said...
all you hear is that HSU is a sham and currupt, everyone is for themselves. So if you all think they are corrupt, put some evidence on the table. Come on stop pissing around and put the hard evidence on the table. I would like to see it. Just because we lost in the irc doesnt make everyone currupt you. Its like school ground shit here, dont like the decision so piss your pants and goe home, fuck I am laughing my head off.
February 24, 2009 2:53 PM
Anonymous said...
Wouldn't take much to laugh it off, sounds like its the size of a pin.
OL' PIN HEAD.
Go suck a delegates yellow sausage.
February 24, 2009 6:44 PM
SPIDER said...
Anonymouse,
Re: doesnt make everyone currupt you……so piss your pants and goe home
Very elequently said you. I pissed myself and my head fell off too when I read your post you. Obviously one of our Charles Sturt ambos?
Turn your gaze oh enlightened one to:
http://www.paramedicsnsw.org.au/
http://www.paramedicsnsw.org.au/
http://www.paramedicsnsw.org.au/
Your questions will be answered there you.
SPIDER
February 24, 2009 7:34 PM
Anonymous said...
this site should be sent out as a morale booster, it cracks me up these comments.
February 24, 2009 7:50 PM
Anonymous said...
the pin head comment, fucking classic
February 24, 2009 7:50 PM
Anonymous said...
I loved it too, It is a good laugh if anything this site.
The turd sent to Roachford also appeals to me in a sick sort of way.
Not so much the turd but the look on his face when he got it would of been gold.
Those OL' Crazy eyes near would of popped out of his head I reckon.
" thats not what I think it is, is it?"
Then I reckon he would of took a sniff to confirm, what do you think?
Picture that little ferets face shrivel up as he cops a lung full of mr hanky's best perfume"
I woke up last night for a piss and pissed all over the floor because that image popped into my head.
February 24, 2009 8:01 PM
Anonymous said...
Fuck, i haven't laughed so much either. Go the turd, what a crack up. Keep up the good work, turd man, you are gold.
February 24, 2009 8:49 PM
Anonymous said...
Re corrupt union, Idiot, you don't have to be real smart to work out the union is a joke and represents us very, very ordinary. Second rate appearance at the IRC Joke hearings. Why don't you just piss off. The sooner we all get the hell away from types like you the better off we will all be. Piss Off.
February 24, 2009 8:56 PM
Anonymous said...
You are all a joke and an embarrassment to the good genuine hard working men and women of this service. Your foul comments are not indicative of the real ambulance service and all I can say is thank god for that. If you lot put the same amount of time into the job as the crap you post here we would all be better off.My bet is most of you aren't even real ambo's at all. Disgusting.
February 24, 2009 9:44 PM
Anonymous said...
Fuck off you piss weak moron, go and vote to NOT take industrial action again
February 24, 2009 9:50 PM
Anonymous said...
I would just like to make a comment about the personal attacks that are made when people post on this blog.
I FUCKEN LOVE IT.
Keep up the good work
February 24, 2009 9:51 PM
Anonymous said...
Turd Man. I vote for turd man to represent us, and turd just between you and me
I love you
February 24, 2009 9:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Anyone who doesn't have a giggle about the TURD is just downright un-Australian
February 25, 2009 6:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Hsu is having another meeting this week with management re the proposed new 16 week rosters.
JUST WATCH THOSE BUDDYS WORK TOGETHER TO BRING IT IN AND FUCK US ALL !
You know the bit that really shits me .... we never even had a chance !
February 25, 2009 8:01 AM
Anonymous said...
Children. That is what we employ now. Children. What a shame.It used to be such a great job. People hiding behind a blog. I would defy anyone to talk to me face to face they way the little kids here talk. Like a bunch of 12 year olds. No wonder the service treat us like idiots.
February 25, 2009 12:11 PM
PT said...
If you think that MOST of the blogs here are a waste of time (and quite frankly I do)log onto "www.paramedicsnsw.org.au" and have input into some constructive debate, give input and get ready for a change for the better.
February 25, 2009 12:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Anyone know how the south and east voted today @ hurstville?
February 25, 2009 3:01 PM
Anonymous said...
They (HSU, led by the soft cock north) will all vote this crappy 16 week roster in ... just you watch.
In a way, im glad, because when they do, it will be the final proof that the HSU and our managemnet are one ! ( if you need anymore proof that is )
February 25, 2009 3:33 PM
Anonymous said...
Come on,
Don't knock this blog, where else would you have found out about the TURD?
February 25, 2009 6:32 PM
Anonymous said...
The TURD is our salvation.
February 25, 2009 8:03 PM
SPIDER said...
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form.”
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One confirmation email!!!!!!!!!!!! Is all it will take you knuckleheads!!!!!!. Anybody told you service emails are monitored, obviously not. It even says it on the bottom of every email you nitwits!!!!.
I thought you guys were switched on. Have you bothered to read the last Parliamentary Inquiry? Remember the little bit about bullying and harassment? The Old Boys Club etc etc etc etc etc. That report was produced only from those who were game enough to speak out.
What a wonderful list of names you will provide them with. I wonder how many suicides through harassment and bullying you will produce with this little blunder. Fuck me!!!
My advice to others is to CONSIDER VERY VERY CAREFULLY about registering. I know how the old boys net works in this service. I lived through it and can say from experience it’s one hell of a ride, As we all know some of our colleagues failed to weather the storm and have left the service one way or another. R.I.P
Be advised these pieces of filth will stop at nothing to try and maintain their control of HSU and the service. Remember ladies and gents management are in HSU with us. Paying members just like us. But unlike us they control the game especially the big plays. Who do you turn to when you are out ranked in your own union and in the organisation you work for. Ever heard of the term “cut down in the crossfire”
SERIOUSLY BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIDER
February 25, 2009 9:29 PM
SPIDER said...
Furthermore
You need to write or meet with Rochford and ask for a guarantee that these so called confirmation emails are kept strictly confidential.
That is the only way I would ever join.
SPIDER
February 25, 2009 9:41 PM
Yellow spider said...
Spider.
Who have prven beyond reasonable doubt you are a FUCKWIT.
A solution comes along that can unite and inform every officer and you are already out to ruin it with your Watergate Bullshit.
There is nothing the asnsw can do to you for supplying your email address.
I urge you to look up the Workplace surveillance act.
And for fuck sake get yourself a ticker, the whole idea of uniting is to show the service if they fuck with one of us the fuck with us all.
Get some NADS or fuck off.
February 25, 2009 9:56 PM
yellow spider said...
Furthermore.
LONG LIVE THE TURD.
If I find out who sent it to him he wouldn't buy a beer all night.
February 25, 2009 9:57 PM
SPIDER said...
Yellow Spider,
Nads, nads?, no one I know uses that term, not in this country anyway. The word is balls my dear friend, everybody knows that.
You are uninformed, obviously junior and very gullible. Probably one of the reasons ambos have been taken advantage of for so long. Sometimes I think people like you deserve what you get.
You can take or leave my advice but don’t say you havn’t been warned.
SPIDER
February 26, 2009 12:48 PM
Anonymous said...
SPIDER - "Please explain". You on one hand strongly promote the new Paramedics NSW web site and then on the other hand you warn all and sundry about complying with the site's validation request by providing your ASNSW email address.
Oh wise one. What do you want me to do other than call you a sporadic moron???!!!
IT’S TIME TO KICK FUCKING IDIOTS LIKE YOU IN THE HEAD “POWER TENDS TO CORRUPT, BUT ABSOLUTE IDIOTS LIKE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY FUCKED IN THE HEAD”
February 26, 2009 4:31 PM
Anonymous said...
Off on lunch
February 26, 2009 7:24 PM
28yrs said...
If we don't stand together what is dished up to us we,ll have to eat be cream or shit. What I can,t understand is the issue was a pay increase for skills, how the fuck did it get so off track with lossing penalties, rescue, rosteter and change to the award?
Whether your in this for life or have just joined it wont matter when you have nothing to barter for when going for the next pay increase, where a joke to all other ambulance services in oz
Even the firies and cops think so they have a one in all in philosophy, we tend to stick our head in the sand if it doesn't directly affect us.
As for the 27th go for it were ve nothing to loss. If the irc wont to fine me, sure do it, take it out of my slave wage at $21 fortnight I can afford it its just my union fees that i dont pay anymore.
Take your meal break your not being paid for and your entitled to it.
Leave the union. There changing the goal post and clouding the real issue.
I think we should be paid the equivalent of what the other services get. We do the same job.
Take back your pay increase, go back to the old award. and lets accert some true muscle for a real wage increase nothing more.
February 26, 2009 7:26 PM
SPIDER said...
Anonymouse,
Yes I have strongly supported the Paramedic NSW website. And yes I did warn all in sundry about the validation process. I’m sure all of the other stuff you mentioned in your post means something to someone?
I don’t know if you have been keeping up with current events, but some in uniformed management may consider the Paramedic NSW website an act of rebellion. Why? Because it is a break away from HSU and their monopoly of power in our union. It seems you didn’t read the results of the recent parliamentary inquiry which detailed the rampant bullying and harassment that pervades our wonderful service.
And here comes the really neat part banana brain by Paramedic NSW sending a confirmation email to your work address it may provide some unscrupulous individuals with a list of people who are members of the site.
I’m not saying that everyone who registers will be targeted but I would think that those who are already perceived to be lose canons or recalcitrance might.
Many years ago I was harassed and my career destroyed for speaking out. In some ways this subversive harassment I still endure today.
There you go that was simple enough. If you have anymore questions please don’t hesitate to contact me.
SPIDER
As I said in my last post I believe we can trust Rochford on this one, and would only ever join if he guaranteed confidentially
February 26, 2009 7:56 PM
Anonymous said...
What can I say.
Another failed delegates meeting today.
Fuck me there are some thick fuckers in this job.
How do you keep swalling the bullshit the HSU feeds you?
I am off the 27th and I hope the wheels fall right fucking off.
But they won't because some fuckwit I bet has already put their hand up to do my shift.
No Unity in this job.
FUCK the HSU
and FUCK all YOU PISS WEAK MOANING AMBO'S
Don't forget to whinge to someone tommorrow about the state of play but don't dare grow some balls and act.
Hope your out all day getting flogged for peanuts FUCKERS.
LONG LIVE THE TURD IN THE BAG.
There's some fucken action.
I would like to see 2000 turds delivered to Roachford
February 26, 2009 7:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Get some fucken NADS spider.
And yes dumb fuck NADS is used in this country. Short for GONADS.
Terry Hill even had a grey hound called it.
Get your head out of your arse and keep up with the Social Development of this country.
And as always this country doesn't like cowards much.
YELLOW SPIDER
February 26, 2009 8:01 PM
run and hide rock spider said...
I know why spider is running scared of putting his work email on the other site, its because he is the only fuckwit among us who was dumb enough to spend all his time on this blog bagging the shit out of people, naming names and the like, now he uses the other forum under the same fucking name, what a fuck head, now people will no who the famous spider is, come out from under your rock fuck head, go join the other site under a differet name and get a hot mail address to use fuckstick. And your bagging out the ambulance service for fostering bullies, when the only behaviour we have seen from the rock spider is bully boy tactics name calling harrasment, fuck you are the problem fuck boy. Oh and buy the way if the service really wanted to they could trace you to the computer you use on this blog site. Grow up and go and hide under another name.
February 26, 2009 8:21 PM
Anonymous said...
I forgot to add, even though I said all that, I piss myself laughing at some of you replies. I love this site, its the fucking funniest load of shit I have ever read.
February 26, 2009 8:23 PM
Anonymous said...
"it must have been my wife using this computer. Your honor."
ROFLMAO
February 26, 2009 8:27 PM
Anonymous said...
Its a classic allright.
Some top class comedic shit on here.
I am a big fan of the TURD man.
Hope the fumes stung the shit out of OL' CRAZY EYES.
Imagine how much water would come out of them puppies.
February 26, 2009 8:39 PM
Anonymous said...
re : run and hide rock spider said...
eh ! wrong yourself fuckwit ... the service cannot trace spider to this web site.... it is a breach of law and they could be fined a lot of money for it !
Do your homework before shouting your big mouth off numbnuts !
February 26, 2009 9:13 PM
Anonymous said...
hey 28 years....
do you work for us? never seen such pathetic spelling and disjointed sentences in my life what are you trying to say?
February 26, 2009 9:48 PM
SPIDER said...
What is the obsession with "potty talk"? Must it be inserted into every other sentence? If you do not want people to get the wrong impression of you and you are tired of swearing instead of speaking clearly you need to think about why you swear and how you might be able to curb the habit.
Swearing can easily become a habit and is generally considered a bad habit. Just some friendly advice hope you guys don’t mind.
And to the anonymouse who pointed out that Nads actually stands for Gonads, thankyou, I would have never guessed. You so smart.
SPIDER
February 26, 2009 10:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Fuck off spider you fucking nancy boy, fucking soft cock, fucking pussy. The swearing is the only fucking thing that makes this soft cock, lame arse blog worth reading. Fuck me side ways! But seriously people.... the spelling and the grammar, we really need to improve, it's fucking emabarrassing.
February 26, 2009 11:18 PM
28yrs said...
yer I work for you. true I can't spell thanks for picking that up. are you a teacher?
Next time we go for a pay increase I think it's in July, do you really trust this union to go for the best wage for us without lossing anymore conditions. Hang on we fucking gave them away.
My point is If we dont get balls/nads and take on this crap the next thing will go will be shift penalities, annual leave loading, calll outs etc. We will be on a composite wage of fuck all, because we have nothing to barter with. Hopefully Ive got less time in this sinking ship, Those of you of junior years your going to have to bail your fucking hearts out.Fucking one in all in, don't let them basters sell us out anymore.
February 27, 2009 7:25 AM
Anonymous said...
28 years,
your grasp of the english language is astounding, no I'm not a teacher, just a baggy arsed ambo who can spell a bit. How have you lasted in the job so long, how do you convey what's going on with your patient via phcr's? I'm surprised we're not getting bigger pay cuts when this is the quality we've got out there. Amazing.
February 27, 2009 11:10 AM
Anonymous said...
28 years,
your grasp of the english language is astounding, no I'm not a teacher, just a baggy arsed ambo who can spell a bit. How have you lasted in the job so long, how do you convey what's going on with your patient via phcr's? I'm surprised we're not getting bigger pay cuts when this is the quality we've got out there. Amazing.
February 27, 2009 11:10 AM
SPIDER said...
Anonymouse,
Re: The swearing is the only fucking thing that makes this soft cock, lame arse blog worth reading.
Charming. Fascinating stuff, please please post more!!!
SPIDER
February 27, 2009 11:59 AM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Billy W said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
January 24, 2009 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...
really !
Everyone ... and i mean EVERYONE on my station has left the HSU within the last 3 months !
It made me wonder at first why we didnt have a union rep around asking questions... but then i thought about it !
It is impossible to defend their corrupt dealings and they know it !!!
January 24, 2009 9:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes mate you are dead right. I wrote them a registered letter telling them why I had resigned and I have heard nothing. Am I surprised? Not one bit. Last pay I offered to buy everyone an ice cream with the $21 I had saved just to rub it in some more.
January 25, 2009 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...
TODAY SA AMBULANCE:
MAJOR CASE:
THESE RATES MUST HAVE A FURTHER 37% ADDED TO THEM AS AN OPERATIONAL ALLOWENCE
EG: YEAR 4 INTENSIVE CARE PARA BASE RATE APPROX 96,000.00 PA
ATTACHMENT 1
SCHEDULE 1 WAGES1 - SA Ambulance Service Award - 1st January 2007. 2008 and 20092
OPERATIONAL • AMBULANCE TRANSFER SERVICE STREAM
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary (2007 rate + 3.5%) 2009 Annual Salary (2008 rate + 3.5%)
PTS1.1 Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
PTS1.2 Ambulance Officer $36,500 $37,778 $39,100
PTS1.3 Ambulance Officer $39,500 $40,883 $42,313
PTS1.4 Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.1 ESS Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.2 ESS Ambulance Officer $44,500 $46,058 $47,670
PTS 2.1 Team Leader $47,000 $48,645 $50,348
PTS 2.2 Team Leader $50,000 $51,750 $53,561
OPERATIONAL - PROFESSIONAL (EMERGENCY) STREAM
Intern
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
1.1 Intern $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
1.2 Intern $45,000 $46,575 $48,205
Paramedic
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.1 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $49,000 $50,715 $52,490
2.2 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $51,000 $52,785 $54,632
2.3 Paramedic $53,000 $54,855 $56,775
2.4 Paramedic $55,000 $56,925 $58,917
2.5 Paramedic $57,000 $58,995 $61 ,060
2.6 Paramedic $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
Clinical Instructor
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.5 Clinical Instructor $57,000 $58,995 $61,060
2.6 Clinical Instructor $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
1 The applicable weekly amount payable will be ascertained by applying the following formula: annual salary x
(6/313).
2 Operative from the first full pay period on or after 31 December 2006; 31 December 2007 and 31 December 2008.
Without Prejudice
3.2 Clinical Instructor $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Clinical Instructor $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
Sponsored Paramedic Degree Program
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
SPDP1 Probationary Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
SPDP2 Student Ambulance Officer $37,500 $38,813 $40,171
SPDP3 Student Ambulance Officer $40,000 $41,400 $42,849
SPDP4 Student Ambulance Officer $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
Intensive Care Paramedic (ICP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.1 Intensive Care Paramedic Intern $60,000 $62,100 $64,274
3.2 Intensive Care Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Intensive Care Paramedic $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
3.4 Intensive Care Paramedic $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 Intensive Care Paramedic $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
SPRINT Paramedic
3.2 SPRINT Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), ESS (ESSTL), Regional (RTL), Paramedic Development Intern Team Leader (PDITL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.4 CTL/RTL<1 2 reports $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 CTL/RTL <12 reports $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
4.1 ESSTL $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 ESSTL $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
Intensive Care Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), Regional (RTL), Area (ACTL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
Without Prejudice
5.3 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Special Operations Team (SOT), Extended Care Paramedics (ECP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 SOT ICP, ECP $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 SOT ICP, ECP $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 SOT ICP, ECP $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 SOT ICP, ECP $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
5.1 SOT/Retrieval ICP $79,000 $81 ,765 $84,627
5.2 SOT/Retrieval ICP $81,000 $83,835 $86,769
5.3 SOT/Retrieval ICP $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 SOT Clinical Team Leader $86,00 $89,010 $92,125
Clinical Education, Support and Governance
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.2 Clinical Educator $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
5.3 Clinical Support Officer $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 Clinical Support Officer $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Operational Management
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
6.1 Clinical Manager, Patient Services Manager, Risk and Safety Manager, Special Operations Manager, State Duty Manager $96,000 $99,360 $102,838
January 27, 2009 9:43 PM
February 27, 2009 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...
CES/SES
Per annum range
Remuneration Level 8
$348,601
to
$402,750
Remuneration Level 7
$278,001
to
$348,600
Remuneration Level 6
$247,301
to
$278,000
Remuneration Level 5
$214,351
to
$247,300
Remuneration Level 4
$196,651
to
$214,350
Remuneration Level 3
$173,101
to
$196,650
Remuneration Level 2
$161,351
to
$173,100
Remuneration Level 1
$137,800
to
$161,350
the table above represents the ses or state executive serive pay scale, the ce/ceo is on lvl 5 div managers are lvl 1 this does not include performance base contract bonus or retainer allowences these are:
Levels 7 and 8
up to
$35,000
Levels 5 and 6
up to
$27,000
Levels 3 and 4
up to
$19,000
Levels 1 and 2
up to
$15,000
the top table also doesnt state that it is legislation at the start of each year there is a 4% increase (automatic).
what maybe is not also common knowledge is that the ce/ceo under his/her duristiction is the abilty to sign off on a 5% pay increase for their workers. this option was not taken by our ceo, but prefered to take the matter to the courts. it also has been noted the vast amount of money invested by the state government in an attempt to provide a better service to the public. this as we all know has not been the case, the money stays at the higher levels to create personel empires and if their is any surplus will filter down to the coalface level, hence the increase of some 400% of support staff since the arrival of the currnet ceo. this equates to one support staff for every three on road officers and at times you cant even get a leave form signed, a very pathetic enviroment to be in i feel. no doubt at the end of the day the failing radio system, the poor pro q a system, the 6.4 mill dollars for 30 new front vechicles (which we have never seen), the list goes on will all be covered up when they have again finished investigating themselves yet again. the HSU is nothing but a mirror man (ill look into it) setup much like the management of the service and whilst ever we choose to stay under this organisation the prospects for ANY more pay rises (even though it stated the 4% was an interim)is very unlikely.
February 27, 2009 2:17 PM
Anonymous said...
I believe that the majority of posts on this forum seem to be of a genuine and concerning nature, there are as always posts that are purely antagonistic however the facts that have progressed us to this outcome / outcomes are unequivocal, from the commencement of dialogue between the parties the HSU always advised its members to be compliant with all IRC instructions, where has it lead us? Loss of meals / call offs, a roster proposal that provides a further loss of wages and annual leave etc.
The last State delegates meeting saw the division once again of its members and Sub branches as you all will be aware the vote to implement some form of action was 10-4 against. The service has once again achieved its outcome thanks to its own staff.
In relation to the “day off” on the 27th sick leave is an award entitlement is very difficult to prove that its some form of action. What will happen if it’s considered such? Nothing we have nothing left to trade off or provide in closing thanks to the HSU for my pay cut (on an award that took some 4 plus years to ratify, CPI was at 4% during this time so I lost 16% even prior to starting) thanks for the new rosters which will extend my working hours by 64 hours of 16 weeks and this is being implemented on a fatigue based argument? Thanks for my forced annual leave which now means if I wish to go on a holiday in the summer with my kids I must wait till 2013, and finally thanks for giving up the rescue, THANKS HSU FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
February 27, 2009 2:18 PM
Anonymous said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
February 27, 2009 2:19 PM
Anonymous said...
The HSU won't let it happen
They are about improving our work conditions not going backwards.
You non believers have got to keep the faith.
The HSU is amounting an arsenal of industrial weapons to unleash at precisely the right time.
Now I hear on good authority that this will happen when Liberal gets voted in at next election.
Thats years away you say, well come on, I know you are all patient-I mean you all waited 4 years for pay claim debarcle, hang in there
February 27, 2009 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
The problem as I see it is that the union, and I use that term loosely, it is broken into so many sub-branches that the left hand doesn’t understand or comprehend what the right is doing. Also there are too many delegates with too many agendas and too many nitwits that wouldn’t be able to spell fairness or equity let alone understand what it means.
The previous anonymous spoke of impartiality, being proper and unbiased etc. Well my friend that won’t happen. Unfortunately the majority, with the most votes, WITH THE MOST TO GAIN, will rule the day. For example, I haven’t heard too much hype lately with respect to the 80 officers who just had their careers in rescue destroyed.
Yes as we all know HSU is run by the Labor party and are in bed with our management (remember management got the big pay rise not us). But we also need to have a look at the course of action we take as individuals. Take a look at the ever-increasing number of skills and pharmacology’s being mailed out to us, all accepted with no remuneration.
Think of it from service’s perspective, why should we consider paying these clowns an allowance when they will do it for nothing anyway…..HELLO. We need to start standing up for ourselves because as most of us realise by now we can’t rely on management’s union…..I mean our union…. right??
And if you can’t stand up for yourselves and say NO!!!! then don’t believe what your sub-branch delegates tell you. Most of them have no idea what they’re doing in any event.
February 27, 2009 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...
I agree big time! There has been some talk about changing unions, can that be done?Can anyone shed some light on that? I think it's time we were in a union that represents emergency service people not cleaners,radiographers and such like.I can't believe my sub branch voted to accept that bullshit 4%. I didn't want that and i'm sure the majority of us didn't,how can they do that shit?.Can we get together and tell our sub-branch to get that cancelled? I believe we should be taking strong industrial action now and not waiting. Nurses, Cops,got their pay rises what wrong with us? How about the media campaign for the nurses! T.V ads all the time. On the radio, now look at our piss-weak unions efforts, Stickers and other crap! I'm sick of being the nice guy and copping it sweet. Lets get together fellow ambo's and get what we deserve. The most trusted profession and the most ripped off! We deserve to be paid a professional wage. Don't sell your selves short. Time to get tough and be a solid strong unit!
February 27, 2009 2:23 PM
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 2:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Children. That is what we employ now. Children. What a shame.It used to be such a great job. People hiding behind a blog. I would defy anyone to talk to me face to face they way the little kids here talk. Like a bunch of 12 year olds. No wonder the service treat us like idiots.
February 27, 2009 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...
Hey Rick..... shame on you... i didnt know your wife was a super ?? well now that explains why you would recomend that we stick with a corrupt management owned union.
And as for you "angry HSU delegate... you want to know where you went wrong..? where all of you went wrong ???
You all started thinking you were too smart !! trying to be like cunning management and thinking you could negotiate your way over theres..., talk about everything... ! hey that guy brett Web even thinks that a degree in employee relations makes him a winner.
Well here is a little lesson for you all from the school of hard knocks and a history of street justice that by the way, i have never seen fail.
" The school bully cannot be nogotiated with " GOT IT !!!! he does not care what is fair, what the law says or even what anyone else thinks .... he will continue to dominate and reek havoc unabated until the one and ONLY one thing happens !!!!
Are you ready
(( " P A I N " ))! thats right.... the only thing that is going to make these mutts sit up and listen is when we stand up and knock them on their arse !
O.K. now I am going to give you the ultimate way to inflict that pain..
NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON LEAVES A SINGLE HOSPITAL ANYWHERE IN THE STATE FOR 24 HOURS !
now... I hear you ask.. how do we organise that without the HSU !!!
Well wait up ... i didnt say there was only one bully did I ???
No.... there are two.. and the other is Michael Willaimson... now his whole life has been devoted to his own selfish political career.. SO .. its not easy to guess what his dreaded sorce of P A I N needs to be ! If we all resign from the HSU and make it very public !! that will sit him on his arse. So .. we need to set a date and give him the chance to organise a total ban on anyone leaving hospitals for 24 hours or we ALL leave.
I suggest a date for this could be as early as next week ???
ANY THOUGHTS !
Going Going Gone said...
Everyone will do as they always do.
and look after themselves.
End of story.
Game over.
Morris GONE
Reba GONE
Rescue GONE
Meals GONE
HSU GOING
Labour Party GOING
Rural Entitlements GOING
February 27, 2009 2:35 PM
Anonymous said...
so why do you think we need the HSU ,?,maybe you can enlighted me,on why I should stay.
If you can give me 10 good reasons why, I will leave the blogg forever.
why is everyone so scared of leaving the HSU?
You wont get the sack,you will have a pay rise of 21 dollars afortnight,you wont have contiued dissappointment with bad news from the HSU.
you will be able to run your own race against the government and the svc.
We wont have to listen to whinging about M.Williamson.which everyone does!
if we put our own demands on the Government then we will have a better chance of getting what we are worth.Or are you not that guttsy !!!
well it all sounds pretty good to me.
Dont forget get your resignation in mate or you will miss out,on seeing the light.
February 27, 2009 2:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Dear HSU, you're dropped!
Dear HSU,
This break-up letter should come as no surprise nor cause any heartache to someone as cold hearted as you. Time and again I've tried to get you to show me how much you care. Time and again I've been rudely rebuffed.
I have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
Don't come crawling back on your hands and knees asking me to get lubed up and on mine, because I don't have to put up with that from you or anyone.
You see, to me and people who aren't dead inside like you, our pay demands and death & disability benefits are reasonable requests. They let me know that I am special and very important to you. The ironic things is how you always talked of taking our relationship to the next level, but you're just a Union of words, not actions. You gave me lip service and I wanted my needs serviced. I mean, what's more intimate and meaningful than sweet beautiful cash? You can keep your vows and veils and rings and ceremonies. I want something that actually means something. A pay rise is infinitely more meaningful than a trip down the aisle. It says that what we have is something special, something so important to both of us that it can only be expressed by actions.
But no... you say its dirty. It's wrong. It goes against the god-almighty government. Well boo-fucking-hoo. To us in the real world with hearts that function, that's called love. You don't have to sugar coat it, I know how you really feel about me. Its obvious that you're just hiding behind those absurd reasons because I am not the one for you. I truly hope you find some other poor deluded fools that you can bend over, jelly up, and screw over completely.
But it ain't gonna be me. Sadly, my love, I've got better things to do than being screwed over again and again.
February 27, 2009 2:39 PM
Anonymous said...
No wonder we can't get what we want. We can't agree on the smallest things, so the big shit like a welfare system for Ambos and pay disputes are never going to get fixed. Wake up! THEY love the fact that there is so much division. Lets have a survey where we enter what we want, not what they want to hear for their KPI's and other shit to justify their positions.
February 27, 2009 2:43 PM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Billy W said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
January 24, 2009 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...
really !
Everyone ... and i mean EVERYONE on my station has left the HSU within the last 3 months !
It made me wonder at first why we didnt have a union rep around asking questions... but then i thought about it !
It is impossible to defend their corrupt dealings and they know it !!!
January 24, 2009 9:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes mate you are dead right. I wrote them a registered letter telling them why I had resigned and I have heard nothing. Am I surprised? Not one bit. Last pay I offered to buy everyone an ice cream with the $21 I had saved just to rub it in some more.
January 25, 2009 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...
TODAY SA AMBULANCE:
MAJOR CASE:
THESE RATES MUST HAVE A FURTHER 37% ADDED TO THEM AS AN OPERATIONAL ALLOWENCE
EG: YEAR 4 INTENSIVE CARE PARA BASE RATE APPROX 96,000.00 PA
ATTACHMENT 1
SCHEDULE 1 WAGES1 - SA Ambulance Service Award - 1st January 2007. 2008 and 20092
OPERATIONAL • AMBULANCE TRANSFER SERVICE STREAM
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary (2007 rate + 3.5%) 2009 Annual Salary (2008 rate + 3.5%)
PTS1.1 Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
PTS1.2 Ambulance Officer $36,500 $37,778 $39,100
PTS1.3 Ambulance Officer $39,500 $40,883 $42,313
PTS1.4 Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.1 ESS Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.2 ESS Ambulance Officer $44,500 $46,058 $47,670
PTS 2.1 Team Leader $47,000 $48,645 $50,348
PTS 2.2 Team Leader $50,000 $51,750 $53,561
OPERATIONAL - PROFESSIONAL (EMERGENCY) STREAM
Intern
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
1.1 Intern $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
1.2 Intern $45,000 $46,575 $48,205
Paramedic
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.1 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $49,000 $50,715 $52,490
2.2 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $51,000 $52,785 $54,632
2.3 Paramedic $53,000 $54,855 $56,775
2.4 Paramedic $55,000 $56,925 $58,917
2.5 Paramedic $57,000 $58,995 $61 ,060
2.6 Paramedic $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
Clinical Instructor
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.5 Clinical Instructor $57,000 $58,995 $61,060
2.6 Clinical Instructor $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
1 The applicable weekly amount payable will be ascertained by applying the following formula: annual salary x
(6/313).
2 Operative from the first full pay period on or after 31 December 2006; 31 December 2007 and 31 December 2008.
Without Prejudice
3.2 Clinical Instructor $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Clinical Instructor $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
Sponsored Paramedic Degree Program
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
SPDP1 Probationary Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
SPDP2 Student Ambulance Officer $37,500 $38,813 $40,171
SPDP3 Student Ambulance Officer $40,000 $41,400 $42,849
SPDP4 Student Ambulance Officer $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
Intensive Care Paramedic (ICP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.1 Intensive Care Paramedic Intern $60,000 $62,100 $64,274
3.2 Intensive Care Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Intensive Care Paramedic $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
3.4 Intensive Care Paramedic $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 Intensive Care Paramedic $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
SPRINT Paramedic
3.2 SPRINT Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), ESS (ESSTL), Regional (RTL), Paramedic Development Intern Team Leader (PDITL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.4 CTL/RTL<1 2 reports $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 CTL/RTL <12 reports $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
4.1 ESSTL $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 ESSTL $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
Intensive Care Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), Regional (RTL), Area (ACTL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
Without Prejudice
5.3 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Special Operations Team (SOT), Extended Care Paramedics (ECP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 SOT ICP, ECP $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 SOT ICP, ECP $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 SOT ICP, ECP $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 SOT ICP, ECP $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
5.1 SOT/Retrieval ICP $79,000 $81 ,765 $84,627
5.2 SOT/Retrieval ICP $81,000 $83,835 $86,769
5.3 SOT/Retrieval ICP $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 SOT Clinical Team Leader $86,00 $89,010 $92,125
Clinical Education, Support and Governance
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.2 Clinical Educator $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
5.3 Clinical Support Officer $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 Clinical Support Officer $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Operational Management
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
6.1 Clinical Manager, Patient Services Manager, Risk and Safety Manager, Special Operations Manager, State Duty Manager $96,000 $99,360 $102,838
January 27, 2009 9:43 PM
February 27, 2009 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...
CES/SES
Per annum range
Remuneration Level 8
$348,601
to
$402,750
Remuneration Level 7
$278,001
to
$348,600
Remuneration Level 6
$247,301
to
$278,000
Remuneration Level 5
$214,351
to
$247,300
Remuneration Level 4
$196,651
to
$214,350
Remuneration Level 3
$173,101
to
$196,650
Remuneration Level 2
$161,351
to
$173,100
Remuneration Level 1
$137,800
to
$161,350
the table above represents the ses or state executive serive pay scale, the ce/ceo is on lvl 5 div managers are lvl 1 this does not include performance base contract bonus or retainer allowences these are:
Levels 7 and 8
up to
$35,000
Levels 5 and 6
up to
$27,000
Levels 3 and 4
up to
$19,000
Levels 1 and 2
up to
$15,000
the top table also doesnt state that it is legislation at the start of each year there is a 4% increase (automatic).
what maybe is not also common knowledge is that the ce/ceo under his/her duristiction is the abilty to sign off on a 5% pay increase for their workers. this option was not taken by our ceo, but prefered to take the matter to the courts. it also has been noted the vast amount of money invested by the state government in an attempt to provide a better service to the public. this as we all know has not been the case, the money stays at the higher levels to create personel empires and if their is any surplus will filter down to the coalface level, hence the increase of some 400% of support staff since the arrival of the currnet ceo. this equates to one support staff for every three on road officers and at times you cant even get a leave form signed, a very pathetic enviroment to be in i feel. no doubt at the end of the day the failing radio system, the poor pro q a system, the 6.4 mill dollars for 30 new front vechicles (which we have never seen), the list goes on will all be covered up when they have again finished investigating themselves yet again. the HSU is nothing but a mirror man (ill look into it) setup much like the management of the service and whilst ever we choose to stay under this organisation the prospects for ANY more pay rises (even though it stated the 4% was an interim)is very unlikely.
February 27, 2009 2:17 PM
Anonymous said...
I believe that the majority of posts on this forum seem to be of a genuine and concerning nature, there are as always posts that are purely antagonistic however the facts that have progressed us to this outcome / outcomes are unequivocal, from the commencement of dialogue between the parties the HSU always advised its members to be compliant with all IRC instructions, where has it lead us? Loss of meals / call offs, a roster proposal that provides a further loss of wages and annual leave etc.
The last State delegates meeting saw the division once again of its members and Sub branches as you all will be aware the vote to implement some form of action was 10-4 against. The service has once again achieved its outcome thanks to its own staff.
In relation to the “day off” on the 27th sick leave is an award entitlement is very difficult to prove that its some form of action. What will happen if it’s considered such? Nothing we have nothing left to trade off or provide in closing thanks to the HSU for my pay cut (on an award that took some 4 plus years to ratify, CPI was at 4% during this time so I lost 16% even prior to starting) thanks for the new rosters which will extend my working hours by 64 hours of 16 weeks and this is being implemented on a fatigue based argument? Thanks for my forced annual leave which now means if I wish to go on a holiday in the summer with my kids I must wait till 2013, and finally thanks for giving up the rescue, THANKS HSU FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
February 27, 2009 2:18 PM
Anonymous said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
February 27, 2009 2:19 PM
Anonymous said...
The HSU won't let it happen
They are about improving our work conditions not going backwards.
You non believers have got to keep the faith.
The HSU is amounting an arsenal of industrial weapons to unleash at precisely the right time.
Now I hear on good authority that this will happen when Liberal gets voted in at next election.
Thats years away you say, well come on, I know you are all patient-I mean you all waited 4 years for pay claim debarcle, hang in there
February 27, 2009 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
The problem as I see it is that the union, and I use that term loosely, it is broken into so many sub-branches that the left hand doesn’t understand or comprehend what the right is doing. Also there are too many delegates with too many agendas and too many nitwits that wouldn’t be able to spell fairness or equity let alone understand what it means.
The previous anonymous spoke of impartiality, being proper and unbiased etc. Well my friend that won’t happen. Unfortunately the majority, with the most votes, WITH THE MOST TO GAIN, will rule the day. For example, I haven’t heard too much hype lately with respect to the 80 officers who just had their careers in rescue destroyed.
Yes as we all know HSU is run by the Labor party and are in bed with our management (remember management got the big pay rise not us). But we also need to have a look at the course of action we take as individuals. Take a look at the ever-increasing number of skills and pharmacology’s being mailed out to us, all accepted with no remuneration.
Think of it from service’s perspective, why should we consider paying these clowns an allowance when they will do it for nothing anyway…..HELLO. We need to start standing up for ourselves because as most of us realise by now we can’t rely on management’s union…..I mean our union…. right??
And if you can’t stand up for yourselves and say NO!!!! then don’t believe what your sub-branch delegates tell you. Most of them have no idea what they’re doing in any event.
February 27, 2009 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...
I agree big time! There has been some talk about changing unions, can that be done?Can anyone shed some light on that? I think it's time we were in a union that represents emergency service people not cleaners,radiographers and such like.I can't believe my sub branch voted to accept that bullshit 4%. I didn't want that and i'm sure the majority of us didn't,how can they do that shit?.Can we get together and tell our sub-branch to get that cancelled? I believe we should be taking strong industrial action now and not waiting. Nurses, Cops,got their pay rises what wrong with us? How about the media campaign for the nurses! T.V ads all the time. On the radio, now look at our piss-weak unions efforts, Stickers and other crap! I'm sick of being the nice guy and copping it sweet. Lets get together fellow ambo's and get what we deserve. The most trusted profession and the most ripped off! We deserve to be paid a professional wage. Don't sell your selves short. Time to get tough and be a solid strong unit!
February 27, 2009 2:23 PM
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 2:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Children. That is what we employ now. Children. What a shame.It used to be such a great job. People hiding behind a blog. I would defy anyone to talk to me face to face they way the little kids here talk. Like a bunch of 12 year olds. No wonder the service treat us like idiots.
February 27, 2009 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...
Hey Rick..... shame on you... i didnt know your wife was a super ?? well now that explains why you would recomend that we stick with a corrupt management owned union.
And as for you "angry HSU delegate... you want to know where you went wrong..? where all of you went wrong ???
You all started thinking you were too smart !! trying to be like cunning management and thinking you could negotiate your way over theres..., talk about everything... ! hey that guy brett Web even thinks that a degree in employee relations makes him a winner.
Well here is a little lesson for you all from the school of hard knocks and a history of street justice that by the way, i have never seen fail.
" The school bully cannot be nogotiated with " GOT IT !!!! he does not care what is fair, what the law says or even what anyone else thinks .... he will continue to dominate and reek havoc unabated until the one and ONLY one thing happens !!!!
Are you ready
(( " P A I N " ))! thats right.... the only thing that is going to make these mutts sit up and listen is when we stand up and knock them on their arse !
O.K. now I am going to give you the ultimate way to inflict that pain..
NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON LEAVES A SINGLE HOSPITAL ANYWHERE IN THE STATE FOR 24 HOURS !
now... I hear you ask.. how do we organise that without the HSU !!!
Well wait up ... i didnt say there was only one bully did I ???
No.... there are two.. and the other is Michael Willaimson... now his whole life has been devoted to his own selfish political career.. SO .. its not easy to guess what his dreaded sorce of P A I N needs to be ! If we all resign from the HSU and make it very public !! that will sit him on his arse. So .. we need to set a date and give him the chance to organise a total ban on anyone leaving hospitals for 24 hours or we ALL leave.
I suggest a date for this could be as early as next week ???
ANY THOUGHTS !
Going Going Gone said...
Everyone will do as they always do.
and look after themselves.
End of story.
Game over.
Morris GONE
Reba GONE
Rescue GONE
Meals GONE
HSU GOING
Labour Party GOING
Rural Entitlements GOING
February 27, 2009 2:35 PM
Anonymous said...
so why do you think we need the HSU ,?,maybe you can enlighted me,on why I should stay.
If you can give me 10 good reasons why, I will leave the blogg forever.
why is everyone so scared of leaving the HSU?
You wont get the sack,you will have a pay rise of 21 dollars afortnight,you wont have contiued dissappointment with bad news from the HSU.
you will be able to run your own race against the government and the svc.
We wont have to listen to whinging about M.Williamson.which everyone does!
if we put our own demands on the Government then we will have a better chance of getting what we are worth.Or are you not that guttsy !!!
well it all sounds pretty good to me.
Dont forget get your resignation in mate or you will miss out,on seeing the light.
February 27, 2009 2:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Dear HSU, you're dropped!
Dear HSU,
This break-up letter should come as no surprise nor cause any heartache to someone as cold hearted as you. Time and again I've tried to get you to show me how much you care. Time and again I've been rudely rebuffed.
I have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
Don't come crawling back on your hands and knees asking me to get lubed up and on mine, because I don't have to put up with that from you or anyone.
You see, to me and people who aren't dead inside like you, our pay demands and death & disability benefits are reasonable requests. They let me know that I am special and very important to you. The ironic things is how you always talked of taking our relationship to the next level, but you're just a Union of words, not actions. You gave me lip service and I wanted my needs serviced. I mean, what's more intimate and meaningful than sweet beautiful cash? You can keep your vows and veils and rings and ceremonies. I want something that actually means something. A pay rise is infinitely more meaningful than a trip down the aisle. It says that what we have is something special, something so important to both of us that it can only be expressed by actions.
But no... you say its dirty. It's wrong. It goes against the god-almighty government. Well boo-fucking-hoo. To us in the real world with hearts that function, that's called love. You don't have to sugar coat it, I know how you really feel about me. Its obvious that you're just hiding behind those absurd reasons because I am not the one for you. I truly hope you find some other poor deluded fools that you can bend over, jelly up, and screw over completely.
But it ain't gonna be me. Sadly, my love, I've got better things to do than being screwed over again and again.
February 27, 2009 2:39 PM
Anonymous said...
No wonder we can't get what we want. We can't agree on the smallest things, so the big shit like a welfare system for Ambos and pay disputes are never going to get fixed. Wake up! THEY love the fact that there is so much division. Lets have a survey where we enter what we want, not what they want to hear for their KPI's and other shit to justify their positions.
February 27, 2009 2:51 PM
Anonymous said...
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form.”
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One confirmation email!!!!!!!!!!!! Is all it will take you knuckleheads!!!!!!. Anybody told you service emails are monitored, obviously not. It even says it on the bottom of every email you nitwits!!!!.
I thought you guys were switched on. Have you bothered to read the last Parliamentary Inquiry? Remember the little bit about bullying and harassment? The Old Boys Club etc etc etc etc etc. That report was produced only from those who were game enough to speak out.
What a wonderful list of names you will provide them with. I wonder how many suicides through harassment and bullying you will produce with this little blunder. Fuck me!!!
My advice to others is to CONSIDER VERY VERY CAREFULLY about registering. I know how the old boys net works in this service. I lived through it and can say from experience it’s one hell of a ride, As we all know some of our colleagues failed to weather the storm and have left the service one way or another. R.I.P
Be advised these pieces of filth will stop at nothing to try and maintain their control of HSU and the service. Remember ladies and gents management are in HSU with us. Paying members just like us. But unlike us they control the game especially the big plays. Who do you turn to when you are out ranked in your own union and in the organisation you work for. Ever heard of the term “cut down in the crossfire”
SERIOUSLY BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIDER
February 27, 2009 5:06 PM
Westy said...
the last I cut and pasted it was one of spiders previous posts.someone obviously doesn't like what he has to say so cut and pasted alot of stuff after his. spider is right why a confirmaton email to your service email address so you can join paramedic NSW with the chance of being bullied and harased. spider whoever he is has nearly always been right with everything else
I'm staying away.
February 27, 2009 5:21 PM
Anonymous said...
Hsu is having another meeting this week with management re the proposed new 16 week rosters.
JUST WATCH THOSE BUDDYS WORK TOGETHER TO BRING IT IN AND FUCK US ALL !
You know the bit that really shits me .... we never even had a chance !
February 27, 2009 5:49 PM
Anonymous said...
Westy/Spider/Greg/Michael:
You are either one of the above or just another gutless fuck scared of his/her own shadow...you have a lot of company in the svc if that is the case,ohhh they will send me a comfirmation, ohhh i'm so scared of being bullied. wake up and smell freedom you arsehole
February 27, 2009 5:56 PM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Billy W said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
January 24, 2009 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...
really !
Everyone ... and i mean EVERYONE on my station has left the HSU within the last 3 months !
It made me wonder at first why we didnt have a union rep around asking questions... but then i thought about it !
It is impossible to defend their corrupt dealings and they know it !!!
January 24, 2009 9:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes mate you are dead right. I wrote them a registered letter telling them why I had resigned and I have heard nothing. Am I surprised? Not one bit. Last pay I offered to buy everyone an ice cream with the $21 I had saved just to rub it in some more.
January 25, 2009 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...
TODAY SA AMBULANCE:
MAJOR CASE:
THESE RATES MUST HAVE A FURTHER 37% ADDED TO THEM AS AN OPERATIONAL ALLOWENCE
EG: YEAR 4 INTENSIVE CARE PARA BASE RATE APPROX 96,000.00 PA
ATTACHMENT 1
SCHEDULE 1 WAGES1 - SA Ambulance Service Award - 1st January 2007. 2008 and 20092
OPERATIONAL • AMBULANCE TRANSFER SERVICE STREAM
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary (2007 rate + 3.5%) 2009 Annual Salary (2008 rate + 3.5%)
PTS1.1 Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
PTS1.2 Ambulance Officer $36,500 $37,778 $39,100
PTS1.3 Ambulance Officer $39,500 $40,883 $42,313
PTS1.4 Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.1 ESS Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.2 ESS Ambulance Officer $44,500 $46,058 $47,670
PTS 2.1 Team Leader $47,000 $48,645 $50,348
PTS 2.2 Team Leader $50,000 $51,750 $53,561
OPERATIONAL - PROFESSIONAL (EMERGENCY) STREAM
Intern
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
1.1 Intern $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
1.2 Intern $45,000 $46,575 $48,205
Paramedic
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.1 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $49,000 $50,715 $52,490
2.2 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $51,000 $52,785 $54,632
2.3 Paramedic $53,000 $54,855 $56,775
2.4 Paramedic $55,000 $56,925 $58,917
2.5 Paramedic $57,000 $58,995 $61 ,060
2.6 Paramedic $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
Clinical Instructor
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.5 Clinical Instructor $57,000 $58,995 $61,060
2.6 Clinical Instructor $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
1 The applicable weekly amount payable will be ascertained by applying the following formula: annual salary x
(6/313).
2 Operative from the first full pay period on or after 31 December 2006; 31 December 2007 and 31 December 2008.
Without Prejudice
3.2 Clinical Instructor $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Clinical Instructor $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
Sponsored Paramedic Degree Program
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
SPDP1 Probationary Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
SPDP2 Student Ambulance Officer $37,500 $38,813 $40,171
SPDP3 Student Ambulance Officer $40,000 $41,400 $42,849
SPDP4 Student Ambulance Officer $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
Intensive Care Paramedic (ICP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.1 Intensive Care Paramedic Intern $60,000 $62,100 $64,274
3.2 Intensive Care Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Intensive Care Paramedic $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
3.4 Intensive Care Paramedic $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 Intensive Care Paramedic $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
SPRINT Paramedic
3.2 SPRINT Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), ESS (ESSTL), Regional (RTL), Paramedic Development Intern Team Leader (PDITL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.4 CTL/RTL<1 2 reports $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 CTL/RTL <12 reports $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
4.1 ESSTL $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 ESSTL $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
Intensive Care Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), Regional (RTL), Area (ACTL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
Without Prejudice
5.3 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Special Operations Team (SOT), Extended Care Paramedics (ECP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 SOT ICP, ECP $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 SOT ICP, ECP $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 SOT ICP, ECP $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 SOT ICP, ECP $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
5.1 SOT/Retrieval ICP $79,000 $81 ,765 $84,627
5.2 SOT/Retrieval ICP $81,000 $83,835 $86,769
5.3 SOT/Retrieval ICP $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 SOT Clinical Team Leader $86,00 $89,010 $92,125
Clinical Education, Support and Governance
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.2 Clinical Educator $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
5.3 Clinical Support Officer $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 Clinical Support Officer $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Operational Management
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
6.1 Clinical Manager, Patient Services Manager, Risk and Safety Manager, Special Operations Manager, State Duty Manager $96,000 $99,360 $102,838
January 27, 2009 9:43 PM
February 27, 2009 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...
CES/SES
Per annum range
Remuneration Level 8
$348,601
to
$402,750
Remuneration Level 7
$278,001
to
$348,600
Remuneration Level 6
$247,301
to
$278,000
Remuneration Level 5
$214,351
to
$247,300
Remuneration Level 4
$196,651
to
$214,350
Remuneration Level 3
$173,101
to
$196,650
Remuneration Level 2
$161,351
to
$173,100
Remuneration Level 1
$137,800
to
$161,350
the table above represents the ses or state executive serive pay scale, the ce/ceo is on lvl 5 div managers are lvl 1 this does not include performance base contract bonus or retainer allowences these are:
Levels 7 and 8
up to
$35,000
Levels 5 and 6
up to
$27,000
Levels 3 and 4
up to
$19,000
Levels 1 and 2
up to
$15,000
the top table also doesnt state that it is legislation at the start of each year there is a 4% increase (automatic).
what maybe is not also common knowledge is that the ce/ceo under his/her duristiction is the abilty to sign off on a 5% pay increase for their workers. this option was not taken by our ceo, but prefered to take the matter to the courts. it also has been noted the vast amount of money invested by the state government in an attempt to provide a better service to the public. this as we all know has not been the case, the money stays at the higher levels to create personel empires and if their is any surplus will filter down to the coalface level, hence the increase of some 400% of support staff since the arrival of the currnet ceo. this equates to one support staff for every three on road officers and at times you cant even get a leave form signed, a very pathetic enviroment to be in i feel. no doubt at the end of the day the failing radio system, the poor pro q a system, the 6.4 mill dollars for 30 new front vechicles (which we have never seen), the list goes on will all be covered up when they have again finished investigating themselves yet again. the HSU is nothing but a mirror man (ill look into it) setup much like the management of the service and whilst ever we choose to stay under this organisation the prospects for ANY more pay rises (even though it stated the 4% was an interim)is very unlikely.
February 27, 2009 2:17 PM
Anonymous said...
I believe that the majority of posts on this forum seem to be of a genuine and concerning nature, there are as always posts that are purely antagonistic however the facts that have progressed us to this outcome / outcomes are unequivocal, from the commencement of dialogue between the parties the HSU always advised its members to be compliant with all IRC instructions, where has it lead us? Loss of meals / call offs, a roster proposal that provides a further loss of wages and annual leave etc.
The last State delegates meeting saw the division once again of its members and Sub branches as you all will be aware the vote to implement some form of action was 10-4 against. The service has once again achieved its outcome thanks to its own staff.
In relation to the “day off” on the 27th sick leave is an award entitlement is very difficult to prove that its some form of action. What will happen if it’s considered such? Nothing we have nothing left to trade off or provide in closing thanks to the HSU for my pay cut (on an award that took some 4 plus years to ratify, CPI was at 4% during this time so I lost 16% even prior to starting) thanks for the new rosters which will extend my working hours by 64 hours of 16 weeks and this is being implemented on a fatigue based argument? Thanks for my forced annual leave which now means if I wish to go on a holiday in the summer with my kids I must wait till 2013, and finally thanks for giving up the rescue, THANKS HSU FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
February 27, 2009 2:18 PM
Anonymous said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
February 27, 2009 2:19 PM
Anonymous said...
The HSU won't let it happen
They are about improving our work conditions not going backwards.
You non believers have got to keep the faith.
The HSU is amounting an arsenal of industrial weapons to unleash at precisely the right time.
Now I hear on good authority that this will happen when Liberal gets voted in at next election.
Thats years away you say, well come on, I know you are all patient-I mean you all waited 4 years for pay claim debarcle, hang in there
February 27, 2009 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
The problem as I see it is that the union, and I use that term loosely, it is broken into so many sub-branches that the left hand doesn’t understand or comprehend what the right is doing. Also there are too many delegates with too many agendas and too many nitwits that wouldn’t be able to spell fairness or equity let alone understand what it means.
The previous anonymous spoke of impartiality, being proper and unbiased etc. Well my friend that won’t happen. Unfortunately the majority, with the most votes, WITH THE MOST TO GAIN, will rule the day. For example, I haven’t heard too much hype lately with respect to the 80 officers who just had their careers in rescue destroyed.
Yes as we all know HSU is run by the Labor party and are in bed with our management (remember management got the big pay rise not us). But we also need to have a look at the course of action we take as individuals. Take a look at the ever-increasing number of skills and pharmacology’s being mailed out to us, all accepted with no remuneration.
Think of it from service’s perspective, why should we consider paying these clowns an allowance when they will do it for nothing anyway…..HELLO. We need to start standing up for ourselves because as most of us realise by now we can’t rely on management’s union…..I mean our union…. right??
And if you can’t stand up for yourselves and say NO!!!! then don’t believe what your sub-branch delegates tell you. Most of them have no idea what they’re doing in any event.
February 27, 2009 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...
I agree big time! There has been some talk about changing unions, can that be done?Can anyone shed some light on that? I think it's time we were in a union that represents emergency service people not cleaners,radiographers and such like.I can't believe my sub branch voted to accept that bullshit 4%. I didn't want that and i'm sure the majority of us didn't,how can they do that shit?.Can we get together and tell our sub-branch to get that cancelled? I believe we should be taking strong industrial action now and not waiting. Nurses, Cops,got their pay rises what wrong with us? How about the media campaign for the nurses! T.V ads all the time. On the radio, now look at our piss-weak unions efforts, Stickers and other crap! I'm sick of being the nice guy and copping it sweet. Lets get together fellow ambo's and get what we deserve. The most trusted profession and the most ripped off! We deserve to be paid a professional wage. Don't sell your selves short. Time to get tough and be a solid strong unit!
February 27, 2009 2:23 PM
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 2:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Children. That is what we employ now. Children. What a shame.It used to be such a great job. People hiding behind a blog. I would defy anyone to talk to me face to face they way the little kids here talk. Like a bunch of 12 year olds. No wonder the service treat us like idiots.
February 27, 2009 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...
Hey Rick..... shame on you... i didnt know your wife was a super ?? well now that explains why you would recomend that we stick with a corrupt management owned union.
And as for you "angry HSU delegate... you want to know where you went wrong..? where all of you went wrong ???
You all started thinking you were too smart !! trying to be like cunning management and thinking you could negotiate your way over theres..., talk about everything... ! hey that guy brett Web even thinks that a degree in employee relations makes him a winner.
Well here is a little lesson for you all from the school of hard knocks and a history of street justice that by the way, i have never seen fail.
" The school bully cannot be nogotiated with " GOT IT !!!! he does not care what is fair, what the law says or even what anyone else thinks .... he will continue to dominate and reek havoc unabated until the one and ONLY one thing happens !!!!
Are you ready
(( " P A I N " ))! thats right.... the only thing that is going to make these mutts sit up and listen is when we stand up and knock them on their arse !
O.K. now I am going to give you the ultimate way to inflict that pain..
NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON LEAVES A SINGLE HOSPITAL ANYWHERE IN THE STATE FOR 24 HOURS !
now... I hear you ask.. how do we organise that without the HSU !!!
Well wait up ... i didnt say there was only one bully did I ???
No.... there are two.. and the other is Michael Willaimson... now his whole life has been devoted to his own selfish political career.. SO .. its not easy to guess what his dreaded sorce of P A I N needs to be ! If we all resign from the HSU and make it very public !! that will sit him on his arse. So .. we need to set a date and give him the chance to organise a total ban on anyone leaving hospitals for 24 hours or we ALL leave.
I suggest a date for this could be as early as next week ???
ANY THOUGHTS !
Going Going Gone said...
Everyone will do as they always do.
and look after themselves.
End of story.
Game over.
Morris GONE
Reba GONE
Rescue GONE
Meals GONE
HSU GOING
Labour Party GOING
Rural Entitlements GOING
February 27, 2009 2:35 PM
Anonymous said...
so why do you think we need the HSU ,?,maybe you can enlighted me,on why I should stay.
If you can give me 10 good reasons why, I will leave the blogg forever.
why is everyone so scared of leaving the HSU?
You wont get the sack,you will have a pay rise of 21 dollars afortnight,you wont have contiued dissappointment with bad news from the HSU.
you will be able to run your own race against the government and the svc.
We wont have to listen to whinging about M.Williamson.which everyone does!
if we put our own demands on the Government then we will have a better chance of getting what we are worth.Or are you not that guttsy !!!
well it all sounds pretty good to me.
Dont forget get your resignation in mate or you will miss out,on seeing the light.
February 27, 2009 2:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Dear HSU, you're dropped!
Dear HSU,
This break-up letter should come as no surprise nor cause any heartache to someone as cold hearted as you. Time and again I've tried to get you to show me how much you care. Time and again I've been rudely rebuffed.
I have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
Don't come crawling back on your hands and knees asking me to get lubed up and on mine, because I don't have to put up with that from you or anyone.
You see, to me and people who aren't dead inside like you, our pay demands and death & disability benefits are reasonable requests. They let me know that I am special and very important to you. The ironic things is how you always talked of taking our relationship to the next level, but you're just a Union of words, not actions. You gave me lip service and I wanted my needs serviced. I mean, what's more intimate and meaningful than sweet beautiful cash? You can keep your vows and veils and rings and ceremonies. I want something that actually means something. A pay rise is infinitely more meaningful than a trip down the aisle. It says that what we have is something special, something so important to both of us that it can only be expressed by actions.
But no... you say its dirty. It's wrong. It goes against the god-almighty government. Well boo-fucking-hoo. To us in the real world with hearts that function, that's called love. You don't have to sugar coat it, I know how you really feel about me. Its obvious that you're just hiding behind those absurd reasons because I am not the one for you. I truly hope you find some other poor deluded fools that you can bend over, jelly up, and screw over completely.
But it ain't gonna be me. Sadly, my love, I've got better things to do than being screwed over again and again.
February 27, 2009 2:39 PM
Anonymous said...
No wonder we can't get what we want. We can't agree on the smallest things, so the big shit like a welfare system for Ambos and pay disputes are never going to get fixed. Wake up! THEY love the fact that there is so much division. Lets have a survey where we enter what we want, not what they want to hear for their KPI's and other shit to justify their positions.
February 27, 2009 2:51 PM
Anonymous said...
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
February 27, 2009 6:24 PM
Anonymous said...
the last I cut and pasted it was one of spiders previous posts.someone obviously doesn't like what he has to say so cut and pasted alot of stuff after his. spider is right why a confirmaton email to your service email address so you can join paramedic NSW with the chance of being bullied and harased. spider whoever he is has nearly always been right with everything else
I'm staying away.
February 27, 2009 6:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Dear HSU, you're dropped!
Dear HSU,
This break-up letter should come as no surprise nor cause any heartache to someone as cold hearted as you. Time and again I've tried to get you to show me how much you care. Time and again I've been rudely rebuffed.
I have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
Don't come crawling back on your hands and knees asking me to get lubed up and on mine, because I don't have to put up with that from you or anyone.
You see, to me and people who aren't dead inside like you, our pay demands and death & disability benefits are reasonable requests. They let me know that I am special and very important to you. The ironic things is how you always talked of taking our relationship to the next level, but you're just a Union of words, not actions. You gave me lip service and I wanted my needs serviced. I mean, what's more intimate and meaningful than sweet beautiful cash? You can keep your vows and veils and rings and ceremonies. I want something that actually means something. A pay rise is infinitely more meaningful than a trip down the aisle. It says that what we have is something special, something so important to both of us that it can only be expressed by actions.
But no... you say its dirty. It's wrong. It goes against the god-almighty government. Well boo-fucking-hoo. To us in the real world with hearts that function, that's called love. You don't have to sugar coat it, I know how you really feel about me. Its obvious that you're just hiding behind those absurd reasons because I am not the one for you. I truly hope you find some other poor deluded fools that you can bend over, jelly up, and screw over completely.
But it ain't gonna be me. Sadly, my love, I've got better things to do than being screwed over again and again.
February 27, 2009 6:26 PM
Anonymous said...
SPIDER said...
Make them suffer,
Re: Soft Cocks
Look at me, look at me. What an impressive command of the English Vocabulary you have. A true wordsmith if ever there was one.
Maybe we could exchange emails and I could come around to your place?
You could give me a quiz at your cherished Bunderburg Rum Ute that is full of a variety of emptied beer cans. You could even loan me your bestest Hustler magazine. Maybe you would even attempt to impress me with your collection of photographs that resemble male and female genitals.
Whatever the case, there is no doubt in my mind that meeting you would be a extraordinary experience.
Nitwit.
SPIDER
February 23, 2009 12:12 PM
Have a go said...
Yeah that would be nice!!
February 23, 2009 3:11 PM
February 27, 2009 6:27 PM
Spider said...
the last I cut and pasted it was one of spiders previous posts.someone obviously doesn't like what he has to say so cut and pasted alot of stuff after his. spider is right why a confirmaton email to your service email address so you can join paramedic NSW with the chance of being bullied and harased. spider whoever he is has nearly always been right with everything else
I'm staying away.
February 27, 2009 6:25 PM
February 27, 2009 6:30 PM
Anonymous said...
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
February 27, 2009 6:46 PM
Anonymous said...
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
HSU is running scared !!!
very scared.... but its too late....
THE HSU IS ALL BUT DEAD ... ALL THAT REMAINS IS TO BURY THEM, PROBLEM IS THEY ARE ALL SO FUCKING BENT THE GRAVE DIGGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SCREW THEM INTO THE GROUND !!!
February 27, 2009 8:17 PM
Anonymous said...
have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
February 27, 2009 8:20 PM
Anonymous said...
You need the love of the Turd.
Allow turd into your life, you will have your needs met.
February 27, 2009 9:10 PM
ebayer said...
I heard someone put 6 Rescue trucks on ebay.
How fucking funy is that.
First news of the TURD and now this.
Fuck me dead thats funny.
February 27, 2009 10:33 PM
Anonymous said...
yeah pretty funny but it was obviously done by knuckle dragging hose draggers.
February 27, 2009 11:13 PM
Don't trust the association said...
O.K., let's get rid of hsu, let's all join the association.
The thing is though, the way I read all the speals on the association web site, it seems to me we still need hsu. Apparently the association can't put forward a new award, all it can do is argue that we're not happy with what's been put forward. We still need the hsu to be the figure head of the workers. it seems to me there's a lot of piss and wind when it comes to the association. They certainly can't answer a lot of questions that have been put to them, their catch cry is that of crossing T's and dotting I's. No specific info has been forth coming. The service must be pissing themselves laughing looking at the disunity that the association is causing. They are not being truthful when it comes to the fact they are an even more a toothless tiger than the hsu.
Before you all start, I the think the hsu are a bunch of self serving crooks, but they do have more pull than the association.
There are even calls on the web site to close down this mighty fine blog. Perrish the thought, where else would I get my evening jollies.
February 27, 2009 11:32 PM
Anonymous said...
Last blog, you are an ill informed idiot..... !
February 28, 2009 12:11 AM
Don't trust the association said...
why so?
February 28, 2009 12:21 AM
Don't trust the association said...
Please enlighten me, which of my statements are incorrect or ill informed.
p.s.
I am an idiot.
February 28, 2009 12:24 AM
Anonymous said...
For a start.
What sort of FUCKWIT would want the HSU going near any future award.
The NEW Fucked award we just got IS BETTER than the next one the HSU would get us.
If you like going backwards stay with the HSU Dumb Fucker
February 28, 2009 7:45 AM
udderone said...
as from today we on the central coast have nothing left to give up,,,,unless they want us to work for zero,which then NSW wont have an ambulance svc.
thanks to the delegates of the country and some of the city,which amazes me that they of all will lose money and conditions,just like the central coast.they must have their own agenda,,,promtion?choice station?maybe to become HSUs next great leader?
one only has to wonder.
to the delegates on the central coast,thanks we know you put up agreat fight,
well Greg,Willis,HSU,Rees,thanks for fuck all.what do you want next?
will i get another fucking email next week saying you re going to take weekend pens or will it be night shift pens next.
Just cant fuckeing wait to open next weeks installment !!!!!!!
February 28, 2009 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...
so how many didnt turn up today???or are you all true to the svc and not to yourselves?
February 28, 2009 2:25 PM
Anonymous said...
RE: Don't trust the Association,
Gee you seem to have a lot of negative things to say about an Association that ISN'T EVEN OPERATIONAL YET !!!!!!
Even if your blog is 50% accurate (which I doubt) I would still prefer to put my trust with them than a Organisation that is FULL of people with (not so ) hidden adgendas. Starting at the very top, you know that Labor Party wannabe.
February 28, 2009 3:58 PM
Anonymous said...
I think the Paramedics NSW asociation blog site is actually run by the Service and their collecting a list of all the Ambos who bag them out and when the times right there going to crucify all the poor suckers who thought it was for real.Dont even log onto that other site or your doomed YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!!!!!
February 28, 2009 4:23 PM
Anonymous said...
warned by who ?or are you worried they might find out who you are?
I like to stay anonymous,,,it suits me.Thats all i have left!
February 28, 2009 4:36 PM
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February 28, 2009 5:07 PM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Billy W said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
January 24, 2009 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...
really !
Everyone ... and i mean EVERYONE on my station has left the HSU within the last 3 months !
It made me wonder at first why we didnt have a union rep around asking questions... but then i thought about it !
It is impossible to defend their corrupt dealings and they know it !!!
January 24, 2009 9:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes mate you are dead right. I wrote them a registered letter telling them why I had resigned and I have heard nothing. Am I surprised? Not one bit. Last pay I offered to buy everyone an ice cream with the $21 I had saved just to rub it in some more.
January 25, 2009 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...
TODAY SA AMBULANCE:
MAJOR CASE:
THESE RATES MUST HAVE A FURTHER 37% ADDED TO THEM AS AN OPERATIONAL ALLOWENCE
EG: YEAR 4 INTENSIVE CARE PARA BASE RATE APPROX 96,000.00 PA
ATTACHMENT 1
SCHEDULE 1 WAGES1 - SA Ambulance Service Award - 1st January 2007. 2008 and 20092
OPERATIONAL • AMBULANCE TRANSFER SERVICE STREAM
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary (2007 rate + 3.5%) 2009 Annual Salary (2008 rate + 3.5%)
PTS1.1 Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
PTS1.2 Ambulance Officer $36,500 $37,778 $39,100
PTS1.3 Ambulance Officer $39,500 $40,883 $42,313
PTS1.4 Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.1 ESS Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.2 ESS Ambulance Officer $44,500 $46,058 $47,670
PTS 2.1 Team Leader $47,000 $48,645 $50,348
PTS 2.2 Team Leader $50,000 $51,750 $53,561
OPERATIONAL - PROFESSIONAL (EMERGENCY) STREAM
Intern
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
1.1 Intern $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
1.2 Intern $45,000 $46,575 $48,205
Paramedic
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.1 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $49,000 $50,715 $52,490
2.2 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $51,000 $52,785 $54,632
2.3 Paramedic $53,000 $54,855 $56,775
2.4 Paramedic $55,000 $56,925 $58,917
2.5 Paramedic $57,000 $58,995 $61 ,060
2.6 Paramedic $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
Clinical Instructor
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.5 Clinical Instructor $57,000 $58,995 $61,060
2.6 Clinical Instructor $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
1 The applicable weekly amount payable will be ascertained by applying the following formula: annual salary x
(6/313).
2 Operative from the first full pay period on or after 31 December 2006; 31 December 2007 and 31 December 2008.
Without Prejudice
3.2 Clinical Instructor $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Clinical Instructor $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
Sponsored Paramedic Degree Program
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
SPDP1 Probationary Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
SPDP2 Student Ambulance Officer $37,500 $38,813 $40,171
SPDP3 Student Ambulance Officer $40,000 $41,400 $42,849
SPDP4 Student Ambulance Officer $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
Intensive Care Paramedic (ICP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.1 Intensive Care Paramedic Intern $60,000 $62,100 $64,274
3.2 Intensive Care Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Intensive Care Paramedic $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
3.4 Intensive Care Paramedic $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 Intensive Care Paramedic $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
SPRINT Paramedic
3.2 SPRINT Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), ESS (ESSTL), Regional (RTL), Paramedic Development Intern Team Leader (PDITL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.4 CTL/RTL<1 2 reports $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 CTL/RTL <12 reports $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
4.1 ESSTL $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 ESSTL $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
Intensive Care Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), Regional (RTL), Area (ACTL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
Without Prejudice
5.3 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Special Operations Team (SOT), Extended Care Paramedics (ECP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 SOT ICP, ECP $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 SOT ICP, ECP $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 SOT ICP, ECP $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 SOT ICP, ECP $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
5.1 SOT/Retrieval ICP $79,000 $81 ,765 $84,627
5.2 SOT/Retrieval ICP $81,000 $83,835 $86,769
5.3 SOT/Retrieval ICP $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 SOT Clinical Team Leader $86,00 $89,010 $92,125
Clinical Education, Support and Governance
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.2 Clinical Educator $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
5.3 Clinical Support Officer $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 Clinical Support Officer $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Operational Management
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
6.1 Clinical Manager, Patient Services Manager, Risk and Safety Manager, Special Operations Manager, State Duty Manager $96,000 $99,360 $102,838
January 27, 2009 9:43 PM
February 27, 2009 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...
CES/SES
Per annum range
Remuneration Level 8
$348,601
to
$402,750
Remuneration Level 7
$278,001
to
$348,600
Remuneration Level 6
$247,301
to
$278,000
Remuneration Level 5
$214,351
to
$247,300
Remuneration Level 4
$196,651
to
$214,350
Remuneration Level 3
$173,101
to
$196,650
Remuneration Level 2
$161,351
to
$173,100
Remuneration Level 1
$137,800
to
$161,350
the table above represents the ses or state executive serive pay scale, the ce/ceo is on lvl 5 div managers are lvl 1 this does not include performance base contract bonus or retainer allowences these are:
Levels 7 and 8
up to
$35,000
Levels 5 and 6
up to
$27,000
Levels 3 and 4
up to
$19,000
Levels 1 and 2
up to
$15,000
the top table also doesnt state that it is legislation at the start of each year there is a 4% increase (automatic).
what maybe is not also common knowledge is that the ce/ceo under his/her duristiction is the abilty to sign off on a 5% pay increase for their workers. this option was not taken by our ceo, but prefered to take the matter to the courts. it also has been noted the vast amount of money invested by the state government in an attempt to provide a better service to the public. this as we all know has not been the case, the money stays at the higher levels to create personel empires and if their is any surplus will filter down to the coalface level, hence the increase of some 400% of support staff since the arrival of the currnet ceo. this equates to one support staff for every three on road officers and at times you cant even get a leave form signed, a very pathetic enviroment to be in i feel. no doubt at the end of the day the failing radio system, the poor pro q a system, the 6.4 mill dollars for 30 new front vechicles (which we have never seen), the list goes on will all be covered up when they have again finished investigating themselves yet again. the HSU is nothing but a mirror man (ill look into it) setup much like the management of the service and whilst ever we choose to stay under this organisation the prospects for ANY more pay rises (even though it stated the 4% was an interim)is very unlikely.
February 27, 2009 2:17 PM
Anonymous said...
I believe that the majority of posts on this forum seem to be of a genuine and concerning nature, there are as always posts that are purely antagonistic however the facts that have progressed us to this outcome / outcomes are unequivocal, from the commencement of dialogue between the parties the HSU always advised its members to be compliant with all IRC instructions, where has it lead us? Loss of meals / call offs, a roster proposal that provides a further loss of wages and annual leave etc.
The last State delegates meeting saw the division once again of its members and Sub branches as you all will be aware the vote to implement some form of action was 10-4 against. The service has once again achieved its outcome thanks to its own staff.
In relation to the “day off” on the 27th sick leave is an award entitlement is very difficult to prove that its some form of action. What will happen if it’s considered such? Nothing we have nothing left to trade off or provide in closing thanks to the HSU for my pay cut (on an award that took some 4 plus years to ratify, CPI was at 4% during this time so I lost 16% even prior to starting) thanks for the new rosters which will extend my working hours by 64 hours of 16 weeks and this is being implemented on a fatigue based argument? Thanks for my forced annual leave which now means if I wish to go on a holiday in the summer with my kids I must wait till 2013, and finally thanks for giving up the rescue, THANKS HSU FOR A JOB WELL DONE.
February 27, 2009 2:18 PM
Anonymous said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
February 27, 2009 2:19 PM
Anonymous said...
The HSU won't let it happen
They are about improving our work conditions not going backwards.
You non believers have got to keep the faith.
The HSU is amounting an arsenal of industrial weapons to unleash at precisely the right time.
Now I hear on good authority that this will happen when Liberal gets voted in at next election.
Thats years away you say, well come on, I know you are all patient-I mean you all waited 4 years for pay claim debarcle, hang in there
February 27, 2009 2:20 PM
Anonymous said...
The problem as I see it is that the union, and I use that term loosely, it is broken into so many sub-branches that the left hand doesn’t understand or comprehend what the right is doing. Also there are too many delegates with too many agendas and too many nitwits that wouldn’t be able to spell fairness or equity let alone understand what it means.
The previous anonymous spoke of impartiality, being proper and unbiased etc. Well my friend that won’t happen. Unfortunately the majority, with the most votes, WITH THE MOST TO GAIN, will rule the day. For example, I haven’t heard too much hype lately with respect to the 80 officers who just had their careers in rescue destroyed.
Yes as we all know HSU is run by the Labor party and are in bed with our management (remember management got the big pay rise not us). But we also need to have a look at the course of action we take as individuals. Take a look at the ever-increasing number of skills and pharmacology’s being mailed out to us, all accepted with no remuneration.
Think of it from service’s perspective, why should we consider paying these clowns an allowance when they will do it for nothing anyway…..HELLO. We need to start standing up for ourselves because as most of us realise by now we can’t rely on management’s union…..I mean our union…. right??
And if you can’t stand up for yourselves and say NO!!!! then don’t believe what your sub-branch delegates tell you. Most of them have no idea what they’re doing in any event.
February 27, 2009 2:22 PM
Anonymous said...
I agree big time! There has been some talk about changing unions, can that be done?Can anyone shed some light on that? I think it's time we were in a union that represents emergency service people not cleaners,radiographers and such like.I can't believe my sub branch voted to accept that bullshit 4%. I didn't want that and i'm sure the majority of us didn't,how can they do that shit?.Can we get together and tell our sub-branch to get that cancelled? I believe we should be taking strong industrial action now and not waiting. Nurses, Cops,got their pay rises what wrong with us? How about the media campaign for the nurses! T.V ads all the time. On the radio, now look at our piss-weak unions efforts, Stickers and other crap! I'm sick of being the nice guy and copping it sweet. Lets get together fellow ambo's and get what we deserve. The most trusted profession and the most ripped off! We deserve to be paid a professional wage. Don't sell your selves short. Time to get tough and be a solid strong unit!
February 27, 2009 2:23 PM
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 2:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Children. That is what we employ now. Children. What a shame.It used to be such a great job. People hiding behind a blog. I would defy anyone to talk to me face to face they way the little kids here talk. Like a bunch of 12 year olds. No wonder the service treat us like idiots.
February 27, 2009 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...
Hey Rick..... shame on you... i didnt know your wife was a super ?? well now that explains why you would recomend that we stick with a corrupt management owned union.
And as for you "angry HSU delegate... you want to know where you went wrong..? where all of you went wrong ???
You all started thinking you were too smart !! trying to be like cunning management and thinking you could negotiate your way over theres..., talk about everything... ! hey that guy brett Web even thinks that a degree in employee relations makes him a winner.
Well here is a little lesson for you all from the school of hard knocks and a history of street justice that by the way, i have never seen fail.
" The school bully cannot be nogotiated with " GOT IT !!!! he does not care what is fair, what the law says or even what anyone else thinks .... he will continue to dominate and reek havoc unabated until the one and ONLY one thing happens !!!!
Are you ready
(( " P A I N " ))! thats right.... the only thing that is going to make these mutts sit up and listen is when we stand up and knock them on their arse !
O.K. now I am going to give you the ultimate way to inflict that pain..
NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON LEAVES A SINGLE HOSPITAL ANYWHERE IN THE STATE FOR 24 HOURS !
now... I hear you ask.. how do we organise that without the HSU !!!
Well wait up ... i didnt say there was only one bully did I ???
No.... there are two.. and the other is Michael Willaimson... now his whole life has been devoted to his own selfish political career.. SO .. its not easy to guess what his dreaded sorce of P A I N needs to be ! If we all resign from the HSU and make it very public !! that will sit him on his arse. So .. we need to set a date and give him the chance to organise a total ban on anyone leaving hospitals for 24 hours or we ALL leave.
I suggest a date for this could be as early as next week ???
ANY THOUGHTS !
Going Going Gone said...
Everyone will do as they always do.
and look after themselves.
End of story.
Game over.
Morris GONE
Reba GONE
Rescue GONE
Meals GONE
HSU GOING
Labour Party GOING
Rural Entitlements GOING
February 27, 2009 2:35 PM
Anonymous said...
so why do you think we need the HSU ,?,maybe you can enlighted me,on why I should stay.
If you can give me 10 good reasons why, I will leave the blogg forever.
why is everyone so scared of leaving the HSU?
You wont get the sack,you will have a pay rise of 21 dollars afortnight,you wont have contiued dissappointment with bad news from the HSU.
you will be able to run your own race against the government and the svc.
We wont have to listen to whinging about M.Williamson.which everyone does!
if we put our own demands on the Government then we will have a better chance of getting what we are worth.Or are you not that guttsy !!!
well it all sounds pretty good to me.
Dont forget get your resignation in mate or you will miss out,on seeing the light.
February 27, 2009 2:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Dear HSU, you're dropped!
Dear HSU,
This break-up letter should come as no surprise nor cause any heartache to someone as cold hearted as you. Time and again I've tried to get you to show me how much you care. Time and again I've been rudely rebuffed.
I have emotions. I have needs. I have love to express. But, Mr. Selfish, you just don't care that you make me feel like my needs, emotions, and pay and disability benefits are just not important. Well news flash, HSU, they are! So, after years I'm ending this charade of a relationship in hopes of finding someone who is emotionally mature enough to take care of me like I need to be.
Don't come crawling back on your hands and knees asking me to get lubed up and on mine, because I don't have to put up with that from you or anyone.
You see, to me and people who aren't dead inside like you, our pay demands and death & disability benefits are reasonable requests. They let me know that I am special and very important to you. The ironic things is how you always talked of taking our relationship to the next level, but you're just a Union of words, not actions. You gave me lip service and I wanted my needs serviced. I mean, what's more intimate and meaningful than sweet beautiful cash? You can keep your vows and veils and rings and ceremonies. I want something that actually means something. A pay rise is infinitely more meaningful than a trip down the aisle. It says that what we have is something special, something so important to both of us that it can only be expressed by actions.
But no... you say its dirty. It's wrong. It goes against the god-almighty government. Well boo-fucking-hoo. To us in the real world with hearts that function, that's called love. You don't have to sugar coat it, I know how you really feel about me. Its obvious that you're just hiding behind those absurd reasons because I am not the one for you. I truly hope you find some other poor deluded fools that you can bend over, jelly up, and screw over completely.
But it ain't gonna be me. Sadly, my love, I've got better things to do than being screwed over again and again.
February 27, 2009 2:39 PM
Anonymous said...
No wonder we can't get what we want. We can't agree on the smallest things, so the big shit like a welfare system for Ambos and pay disputes are never going to get fixed. Wake up! THEY love the fact that there is so much division. Lets have a survey where we enter what we want, not what they want to hear for their KPI's and other shit to justify their positions.
February 27, 2009 2:43 PM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
both soth aust and vic use the aea (ambulance empolyees assoc.) these were formed as a result of what now is occuring here. members held a mass meeting and placed their money into a trust account until sufficiant funds were raised to purchase a house which was then converted into an office. then came office staff and an industrial officer. for the court a barrister is hired when required.the only real issue at this time is that the claim has been lodged it may mean returning to square one should we change unions at this point in time, i for one dont mind either way as the hsu seems reluctant to make any form of waves. i see history as this, the claim was started some two years ago, it went quiet as we were in the lead up to a state election, then after this it got vocal again, along came apec in which it went quiet,now in the run up to a federal election it seems to have gone quiet again ill let other members draw their own conclusion. it would appear in terms of the acceptance of the 4% that it may be seen as an invalid or an illegal descision, this issue needed to be taken back to members and placed on the table at a sub branch meeting, the only real way to reverse this for members at their sub branch to move a motion to state that they feel the offer is an insault and that immediate industrial action state wide commence. this action must stay in place until the correct offer is accepted. the death and disabilty is a classic example, this was raised at the mass meeting where members were assured that it would be signed off in 2 to 3 days however some months later we are still waiting. the service is a real communist organisation in terms of them telling all staff to remove any posters or stickers from cars, they wont let officers show their disgust in a reasonable way.
the hsu asked the health minister for an ivestigation into the senior mangement of the service, this resulted in a fax being issued by roachford saying he had spoken to the investigtor and will assist. then a second fax stating that the investigator had asked for a uniformed officer so roachford gave them willis, from what i understand these are two people that this investigation centers around. the whole thing is one big circus, the hsu is not getting anywhere more people have to show their disgust by emailing them direct, at sub branch meetings.
February 27, 2009 1:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Billy W said...
I have now received my 5th pay packet with NO union fees going out. God I feel great. It is the same feeling I got when I came home to find my first wife had left me. I told all 10 people on my station I had left the union and they all looked at me funny then went back to what they were doing. I guess there are still some out there who want to feather Williamsons pockets.
January 24, 2009 9:20 PM
Anonymous said...
really !
Everyone ... and i mean EVERYONE on my station has left the HSU within the last 3 months !
It made me wonder at first why we didnt have a union rep around asking questions... but then i thought about it !
It is impossible to defend their corrupt dealings and they know it !!!
January 24, 2009 9:37 PM
Anonymous said...
Yes mate you are dead right. I wrote them a registered letter telling them why I had resigned and I have heard nothing. Am I surprised? Not one bit. Last pay I offered to buy everyone an ice cream with the $21 I had saved just to rub it in some more.
January 25, 2009 9:13 AM
Anonymous said...
TODAY SA AMBULANCE:
MAJOR CASE:
THESE RATES MUST HAVE A FURTHER 37% ADDED TO THEM AS AN OPERATIONAL ALLOWENCE
EG: YEAR 4 INTENSIVE CARE PARA BASE RATE APPROX 96,000.00 PA
ATTACHMENT 1
SCHEDULE 1 WAGES1 - SA Ambulance Service Award - 1st January 2007. 2008 and 20092
OPERATIONAL • AMBULANCE TRANSFER SERVICE STREAM
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary (2007 rate + 3.5%) 2009 Annual Salary (2008 rate + 3.5%)
PTS1.1 Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
PTS1.2 Ambulance Officer $36,500 $37,778 $39,100
PTS1.3 Ambulance Officer $39,500 $40,883 $42,313
PTS1.4 Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.1 ESS Ambulance Officer $42,500 $43,988 $45,527
ESS 1.2 ESS Ambulance Officer $44,500 $46,058 $47,670
PTS 2.1 Team Leader $47,000 $48,645 $50,348
PTS 2.2 Team Leader $50,000 $51,750 $53,561
OPERATIONAL - PROFESSIONAL (EMERGENCY) STREAM
Intern
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
1.1 Intern $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
1.2 Intern $45,000 $46,575 $48,205
Paramedic
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.1 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $49,000 $50,715 $52,490
2.2 Paramedic, Paramedic Defined Practice $51,000 $52,785 $54,632
2.3 Paramedic $53,000 $54,855 $56,775
2.4 Paramedic $55,000 $56,925 $58,917
2.5 Paramedic $57,000 $58,995 $61 ,060
2.6 Paramedic $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
Clinical Instructor
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
2.5 Clinical Instructor $57,000 $58,995 $61,060
2.6 Clinical Instructor $59,000 $61,065 $63,202
1 The applicable weekly amount payable will be ascertained by applying the following formula: annual salary x
(6/313).
2 Operative from the first full pay period on or after 31 December 2006; 31 December 2007 and 31 December 2008.
Without Prejudice
3.2 Clinical Instructor $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Clinical Instructor $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
Sponsored Paramedic Degree Program
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
SPDP1 Probationary Ambulance Officer $34,500 $35,708 $36,957
SPDP2 Student Ambulance Officer $37,500 $38,813 $40,171
SPDP3 Student Ambulance Officer $40,000 $41,400 $42,849
SPDP4 Student Ambulance Officer $43,000 $44,505 $46,063
Intensive Care Paramedic (ICP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.1 Intensive Care Paramedic Intern $60,000 $62,100 $64,274
3.2 Intensive Care Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
3.3 Intensive Care Paramedic $63,000 $65,205 $67,487
3.4 Intensive Care Paramedic $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 Intensive Care Paramedic $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
SPRINT Paramedic
3.2 SPRINT Paramedic $61,000 $63,135 $65,345
Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), ESS (ESSTL), Regional (RTL), Paramedic Development Intern Team Leader (PDITL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
3.4 CTL/RTL<1 2 reports $65,000 $67,275 $69,630
3.5 CTL/RTL <12 reports $67,000 $69,345 $71,772
4.1 ESSTL $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 ESSTL $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 CTL/RTL/PDITL >12 reports; ESS CTL $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
Intensive Care Paramedic Team Leader: Clinical (CTL), Regional (RTL), Area (ACTL)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 CTL/RTL <1 2 reports $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
Without Prejudice
5.3 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 CTL/RTL>1 2 reports, ACTL $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Special Operations Team (SOT), Extended Care Paramedics (ECP)
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.1 SOT ICP, ECP $70,000 $72,450 $74,986
4.2 SOT ICP, ECP $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
4.3 SOT ICP, ECP $74,000 $76,590 $79,271
4.4 SOT ICP, ECP $76,000 $78,660 $81,413
5.1 SOT/Retrieval ICP $79,000 $81 ,765 $84,627
5.2 SOT/Retrieval ICP $81,000 $83,835 $86,769
5.3 SOT/Retrieval ICP $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 SOT Clinical Team Leader $86,00 $89,010 $92,125
Clinical Education, Support and Governance
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
4.2 Clinical Educator $72,000 $74,520 $77,128
5.3 Clinical Support Officer $84,000 $86,940 $89,983
5.4 Clinical Support Officer $86,000 $89,010 $92,125
Operational Management
Pay point Classification 2007 Annual Salary 2008 Annual Salary 2009 Annual Salary
6.1 Clinical Manager, Patient Services Manager, Risk and Safety Manager, Special Operations Manager, State Duty Manager $96,000 $99,360 $102,838
January 27, 2009 9:43 PM
February 27, 2009 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...
CES/SES
Per annum range
Remuneration Level 8
$348,601
to
$402,750
Remuneration Level 7
$278,001
to
$348,600
Remuneration Level 6
$247,301
to
$278,000
Remuneration Level 5
$214,351
to
$247,300
Remuneration Level 4
$196,651
to
$214,350
Remuneration Level 3
$173,101
to
$196,650
Remuneration Level 2
$161,351
to
$173,100
Remuneration Level 1
$137,800
to
$161,350
the table above represents the ses or state executive serive pay scale, the ce/ceo is on lvl 5 div managers are lvl 1 this does not include performance base contract bonus or retainer allowences these are:
Levels 7 and 8
up to
$35,000
Levels 5 and 6
up to
$27,000
Levels 3 and 4
up to
$19,000
Levels 1 and 2
up to
$15,000
the top table also doesnt state that it is legislation at the start of each year there is a 4% increase (automatic).
what maybe is not also common knowledge is that the ce/ceo under his/her duristiction is the abilty to sign off on a 5% pay increase for their workers. this option was not taken by our ceo, but prefered to take the matter to the courts. it also has been noted the vast amount of money invested by the state government in an attempt to provide a better service to the public. this as we all know has not been the case, the money stays at the higher levels to create personel empires and if their is any surplus will filter down to the coalface level, hence the increase of some 400% of support staff since the arrival of the currnet ceo. this equates to one support staff for every three on road officers and at times you cant even get a leave form signed, a very pathetic enviroment to be in i feel. no doubt at the end of the day the failing radio system, the poor pro q a system, the 6.4 mill dollars for 30 new front vechicles (which we have never seen), the list goes on will all be covered up when they have again finished investigating themselves yet again. the HSU is nothing but a mirror man (ill look into it) setup much like the management of the service and whilst ever we choose to stay under this organisation the prospects for ANY more pay rises (even though it stated the 4% was an interim)is very unlikely.
February 28, 2009 5:17 PM
Anonymous said...
ive read some funny shit on this blog, but the fucker who spent all day cutting pasting, that wasnt even funny you dumb fucker
February 28, 2009 5:18 PM
Anonymous said...
maybe a little bit funny
February 28, 2009 5:18 PM
A rooly funny bloke said...
Hey you just messed up my punchline ASSSSHHOOLLEE!!!
February 28, 2009 5:19 PM
Anonymous said...
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form.”
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One confirmation email!!!!!!!!!!!! Is all it will take you knuckleheads!!!!!!. Anybody told you service emails are monitored, obviously not. It even says it on the bottom of every email you nitwits!!!!.
I thought you guys were switched on. Have you bothered to read the last Parliamentary Inquiry? Remember the little bit about bullying and harassment? The Old Boys Club etc etc etc etc etc. That report was produced only from those who were game enough to speak out.
What a wonderful list of names you will provide them with. I wonder how many suicides through harassment and bullying you will produce with this little blunder. Fuck me!!!
My advice to others is to CONSIDER VERY VERY CAREFULLY about registering. I know how the old boys net works in this service. I lived through it and can say from experience it’s one hell of a ride, As we all know some of our colleagues failed to weather the storm and have left the service one way or another. R.I.P
Be advised these pieces of filth will stop at nothing to try and maintain their control of HSU and the service. Remember ladies and gents management are in HSU with us. Paying members just like us. But unlike us they control the game especially the big plays. Who do you turn to when you are out ranked in your own union and in the organisation you work for. Ever heard of the term “cut down in the crossfire”
SERIOUSLY BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIDER
February 28, 2009 6:40 PM
Anonymous said...
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form.”
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One confirmation email!!!!!!!!!!!! Is all it will take you knuckleheads!!!!!!. Anybody told you service emails are monitored, obviously not. It even says it on the bottom of every email you nitwits!!!!.
I thought you guys were switched on. Have you bothered to read the last Parliamentary Inquiry? Remember the little bit about bullying and harassment? The Old Boys Club etc etc etc etc etc. That report was produced only from those who were game enough to speak out.
What a wonderful list of names you will provide them with. I wonder how many suicides through harassment and bullying you will produce with this little blunder. Fuck me!!!
My advice to others is to CONSIDER VERY VERY CAREFULLY about registering. I know how the old boys net works in this service. I lived through it and can say from experience it’s one hell of a ride, As we all know some of our colleagues failed to weather the storm and have left the service one way or another. R.I.P
Be advised these pieces of filth will stop at nothing to try and maintain their control of HSU and the service. Remember ladies and gents management are in HSU with us. Paying members just like us. But unlike us they control the game especially the big plays. Who do you turn to when you are out ranked in your own union and in the organisation you work for. Ever heard of the term “cut down in the crossfire”
SERIOUSLY BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIDER
February 28, 2009 6:41 PM
Anonymous said...
“Membership is subject to the Administrator's approval and can be revoked at any time if it is deemed in the best interest of the majority of our members. All fields MUST be filled out for your application to be considered. Your ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you (except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form), rather your main Email address will be used for any future communication from ParamedicsNSW”.
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“ASNSW Email is taken only to confirm your employment with the ASNSW - it will not be used to contact you except for one confirmation email which will be sent once you have submitted this form.”
Are you guys fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One confirmation email!!!!!!!!!!!! Is all it will take you knuckleheads!!!!!!. Anybody told you service emails are monitored, obviously not. It even says it on the bottom of every email you nitwits!!!!.
I thought you guys were switched on. Have you bothered to read the last Parliamentary Inquiry? Remember the little bit about bullying and harassment? The Old Boys Club etc etc etc etc etc. That report was produced only from those who were game enough to speak out.
What a wonderful list of names you will provide them with. I wonder how many suicides through harassment and bullying you will produce with this little blunder. Fuck me!!!
My advice to others is to CONSIDER VERY VERY CAREFULLY about registering. I know how the old boys net works in this service. I lived through it and can say from experience it’s one hell of a ride, As we all know some of our colleagues failed to weather the storm and have left the service one way or another. R.I.P
Be advised these pieces of filth will stop at nothing to try and maintain their control of HSU and the service. Remember ladies and gents management are in HSU with us. Paying members just like us. But unlike us they control the game especially the big plays. Who do you turn to when you are out ranked in your own union and in the organisation you work for. Ever heard of the term “cut down in the crossfire”
SERIOUSLY BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SPIDER
February 28, 2009 6:41 PM
Anonymous said...
There is no “fixing” the problem as the situation stands at the moment. Unless uniformed management suddenly withdraws from the HSU, our union right?, this new association will go ahead. It probably will anyway.
Ambos are not stupid, most now know something dodgey is going on, I’ve known it for years. The old boys club is about to met it’s end.
Withdraw management from our union now before HSU loses any credibility it has left. It’s only a matter of time before the media picks up on this.
Hundreds and hundreds of ambos declaring their union is a sham and corrupt will have an impact, don’t be that naive to believe it won’t.
Remember, we are the most trusted profession.
HSU you have been warned!
SPIDER
February 28, 2009 6:45 PM
Anonymous said...
The person who keeps cutting and pasting old blogs is a Manager... and is in the HSU !
We know who you are you pathetic idiot and we know you are trying to fill up the blog space and make it so difficult to keep track of that people will no longer use it.
HEY .... JUST FUCK OFF TO THE HOLE YOU CRAWLED OUT OF YOU PATHETIC LITTLE TURD, NOBODY IS GOING AWAY ! NOBODY IS GIVING UP THIS TIME BUDDY AND THE FIGHT YOU KNOW HAVE ON YOUR HANDS IS HERE TO STAY !
February 28, 2009 10:23 PM
Anonymous said...
Heard that alsmost 50 people went off station for lunch today in protest to losing late meals and call offs.
I heard it from a manager who was boasting that it did not make the slightest bit of difference and that the service will cope no matter what we do !
Come on guys.... lets see if we can make it 100 people off for lunch by next saturday and then 200 and then 300 !
GET MY DRIFT.!
Bullies are used to bieng hit once or twice, its not good enough to just smack them in the face once.... you have to knock them down and then stomp on their heads until a GCS off <8 is achieved in order to make them stop !
Come on guys ... they are steeling from you, then playing you all for fools and then sipping tea and eating cream buns up at Area Offices all over Sydney whilst patting each other on the back telling themselves what great managers they are.
February 28, 2009 10:50 PM
Anonymous said...
Pritchard has made the comment that this will all blow over so it is up to us to make sure it doesn't.
March 1, 2009 12:06 AM
Anonymous said...
Apparently Pritchard has an
" INNY "
and I am not talking about belly buttons.
Why would you not go off for lunch, what do you get? a fucken lowsy $11.80 if you are called off lunch in the first 20mins, nothing after that. Any missed lunch time is then added onto end of shift overtime.
Why the FUCK would you bother?
March 1, 2009 7:56 AM
Anonymous said...
I work in the bush, so just clear it up if you interupted in the first 20 min you get a penalty if it between 20 and 30 minutes you get nothing? you guys have been arse fucked.
March 1, 2009 8:01 PM
Anonymous said...
I take great offence at you calling the manager a TURD, remember the TURD is our only friend in this.
March 1, 2009 8:02 PM
Anonymous said...
Regardless of what you think of the award, why arent people sighting chapter 25, reasonable hours of overtime when they give you a cold response at 10 minutes to nock off tell em you have a family commitment.
March 1, 2009 8:04 PM
SPIDER said...
Pritchard is not only a financial member of the HSU, he is also represented by them, like us. Also he has Micheal williamson as State Secretary of his union, like us.
Do you think HSU would do anything if Pritchard was harrassing or making things hard for you?. No chance!.
In fact I have never heard HSU address the issue of bullying and harrasment in this service at all. They always just blame Rochford. I wonder why?
Do you think that Pritchard would have any input into the conditions of our award (if he wanted to)?
He is not only a member of the HSU and a person of influence within that organisation but also a person of High Rank and influence within the service.
WELCOME TO THE OLD BOYS CLUB FOOLS!!
SPIDER
"Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely"
March 1, 2009 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...
Re the overtime:
I don't think they care!!!
It doesn't matter to them that you have a life outside the job. So long as they can say they have responded a car then that's all that matters to them regardless of how trivial the job may be.
I know of crews out West that have incurred up to 6 hours of unwanted OT because the service won't increase the MOL'S to keep up with the workload. It's easy for coord and management when they can pull up stumps and go home at the designated time. Hopefully when the Association gets up and running they will address this as HSU sure won't.
March 1, 2009 8:41 PM
Anonymous said...
READ THE AWARD you do not have to do 6 hours overtime, you have to do reasonable overtime, then read chapter 25 its in black and white, tell them to fuck off
March 1, 2009 9:31 PM
Worn out ambo said...
Christ you lot are a bunch of misguided fools except you Spider and I will get to you in a minute. Of course the dispatchers (I would never use the term Co-Ordinators these days because they couldn't co-ordinate a trip to the shithouse) don't care if you have a life or not. That isn't their job. With exceptions and there are a few all they care about is getting the jobs cleared. That isn't anything new. That has been going on since I can remember and that is a bloody long time. Remember the old days when you asked to get off on time. You ALWAYS worked back. Some things are never going to change so get used to it. The thing I don't understand is why people would want to join this mob these days. I can remember when I joined I was getting about $10 an hour more than I was getting for my trade. My trade now pays $65 an hour while we get $27!!! today. Now Spider you are dead right about the old boys club still being out there and Pritchard is top of the heap now Marks has gone. Who taught him everything he knows. The biggest and baddest of the old boys mob himself god rest his soul. Make no mistake KP is not out there to make our lives better. Only his own. Such a shame to see a nice guy run with the mob. He has created a lot of jobs in Sydney though. Jobs for the boys and girls he likes. This job is never going to be a patch on what it was. We have no solidarity. Remember the walk on McKell. We stood together and walked. It worked too. Today each of us would kill the next bloke to get more money or a better cushier job. Such a shame it has come to this. Those Sturt Uni people coming in and thinking they are the best ambo's in the service because they have a degree. They obviously believe the hype they are told. I long for the days when we stood side by side and you could trust your fellow ambo. I joined this job as a keen 23 year old and am now 54. I had the audacity to get sick a while back and got screwed sideways by management some of who I have known all my career. Those same people will get sick one day too but they will not have to go through what I did because they have shit on their shoulder and know the right people. How much money are they getting out of us with this D&D shit. Compulsory payments that most of us will never have a chance to claim on even if we do get genuinely sick. The only company in the universe that will let them take money of us and we do nothing but talk about what we are going to do. Blah blah..The ferry engineers get a 10% rise on a threat of a strike. Same with teachers. Both definately would disrupt the public if they walked. But not us.Oh no. We are only a bunch of whining ambo's who talk about paperwork bans. Williamson was on Ray Hadley the other day giving the talk about how the IRC has threatened to fine us individually if we strike. Oh are we scared. Well they can't put all of us in gaol so why don't we call their bluff for once. I am willing to put it to the test. LESS money!!! We have given so much away over the years for a payrise (yearly uniforms to name one and look how bloody crook we look these days with our Malaysian summer sweat shirts) and now we give away money. I have it on good authority the pay offices around the state have no way of knowing if we have been called off lunch or even been given it. Claim a call off once a week and see if they pay it. I bet they do. Claim it on the day you walk off the station for your lunch break. That would be even funnier. My morals tell me it is wrong but since the srvice and union have none I guess it is only fair. The day I walked into Rozelle for the first time was a very happy day for me but I can tell you the day I leave the job will be even happier. I won't look back. I will take some great friendships with me though and some good times but I pity you young ones just starting out. When the job overwhelms you one day and it does there is going to be nobody to turn to like there was for me. It can change but we need to stick together or we are doomed. P.A.P I miss you man. Where are you hiding.
March 1, 2009 9:42 PM
SPIDER said...
Worn out Ambo,
I hear you brother. Them were the good olds days all right. We all stuck together and looked after those who were struggling. Now it seems as if it’s every man for himself and if someone can cut your throat in the process to earn some brownie points they will. I could tell you some of the things I have gone through but I can’t because it would give away my identity. The harassment I endure today is much less than what it was and I want to keep it that way.
I have been posting on this site now for many many months trying to explain the corrupt relationship between management and the HSU. I’ve copped quiet allot of criticism over that time but expect it’s mainly been from the more junior ambos in the service or members from the old boys club themselves. You’re probably one of the few posters that confirm the workings of the old boys club. It was very refreshing and encouraging to read your blog.
I am starting to find it difficult to understand why Rochford has not identified this problem as well. Surely he must have an idea of what’s going on by now, the evidence is overwhelming.
Maybe he doesn’t know how to tackle it or fix this problem is my guess. Taking management out of our union would have so many other ramifications it's not funny. It would set a precedent that would affect so many other organisations in Australia it would be a nightmare for the IRC to administer let alone consider. It would certainly be difficult with labor government in power.
Unfortunately, I fear that Rochford will be another scalp that the old boys will claim just like his predecessors.
Take care brother,
SPIDER
March 1, 2009 11:04 PM
Anonymous said...
talking about workers comp I know a D/O who regularly undermines workers comp claims by telling the GIO that the officer had a prvious history of the injury and was just trying to rip of the service as happened to me. GIO even sent me a letter confirming this. Who do i report it to? no-one will listen. now I have to take it thorugh the courts and it will take years of stress and waiting to achieve any sort of outcome. the same D/O is a known harrsser in my area. It was mentioned in a government hansard that the service paid out $100,000.00 to an officer he had harrased. Mentioned her name but not his. but here is crazy bit he has just been promoted further up the management ladder. It's got me fucked!
March 3, 2009 1:20 PM
Anonymous said...
Now if you had put in a submission to the enquiry you could claim harrassment from him because of it. There is good reason why some people put their name to the enquiry. It is now against the law to discriminate against these people because of their reports. That DO is a dog and needs to be outed. Fuck the service for protecting him.In their eyes he has probably done a great job.I would out him here mste.
March 3, 2009 2:46 PM
D&D ripps off wife,all should read said...
Its not just you ambos that are bullyed and harrassed,they have extended themselves to the partners and wives!!!
Yesterday,the wife of an ambo who passed away nov07,from a terminal disease,was told that she would have to pay 48cents in the dollar for her D&D payment.
that worked out to be 74K.
Now this was because the claim,so Rochford told her was longer than 12 months old,even though the claim was put in days after his death.
Rochford and his merry men held this up for 15 months,even knowing that this women,was going to lose her house.
So if its not bad enough they take COs&Meals away,make your Hrs longer,dont give breaks and then make you pay for D&D at an overpriced amount,and then wont pay or make you wait untill they have to pay less.
But it does get worse,she recieved aphone call last night,to say the svc will pay her the full amount and not to worry at this stage about the tax.you might think this sounds good,but there is a catch,,,
she will have to pay the tax(74K)at the end of the finacial year,when she lodges a tax return,only,,,,, then she will think,,, i will ring Rochford about this he will say,,,,"oh sorry you must of misunderstood the SVCs position",and you will have to take this up with the taxation department.
Now Iam here to tell you,,,as you are all proberly aware anyway,how much this is awaste of your money.
But I know there are many other Ambos waiting for their payment,but do you think they will get it without a fight,,,i think not!!!
I have contacted some radio stations today,and written many emails and letters with my concerns,that we go without to pay for this,money that could be better used,we are currently getting less because of penalitys that have gone,and if somethink happens to my husband,am I going to have to fight to get somethink that he has paid into to protect his wife and children!!!
and NO iam notbeing greedy either,because there are plenty out there who are worse off than me,,,but SHIT how could this jappen,when I thought everything was supposed to be transparent.
Over the next few weeks Iam going to not let this died in the public arena,,,, I will be Anonymous though,as we all know what happens when an ambo speaks out.
You see Iam not an Ambo,and Rochford has now crossed the line and come into my demayne,and I wont stand back allow him to ripp me off,put undue stress on the wives and familys when their loved one are hurt or killed.
Rochford I hope you are reading this,you are nothing but a guttless prick,,,,the lowest of the lows.I hope you drop dead,with great pain and suffering !!!!!!!!
March 3, 2009 6:25 PM
Anonymous said...
At least it's not just ambo's on this site that can't spell or use correct english.
March 3, 2009 7:16 PM
Anonymous said...
No I thinks it more I cant type!!!!and I need Glasses!!!!
sorry you get the message dont you !!!!!
or are you one of those ambos that like paying for somethink you wont get!!!
March 3, 2009 7:23 PM
Anonymous said...
Name names lovey, do it. Do it for your friend having trouble. Do it go on. ANd name that do, I would love to know his/her name.
March 3, 2009 7:38 PM
Anonymous said...
His Name was Barry Triton.His poor wife watched her poor husband died a tragic death.Then to put up with this crap some 15 months later is just typical of this Svc.
Are you happy now?It will be no secret on 2UE over the next 2 days.
Also dont patronise me,,,, calling me lovey,,, I may not be the best speller,as you think,but atleast iam not as guttless as your so wonderous leader and is merry men.
Or is this the wonderous leader now,,,why dont you put your name on your next blogg.....GRONK!!!!
March 3, 2009 7:53 PM
Anonymous said...
anonymous 3 mar 120pm
i'm pretty sure i know the former D/O you are talking about unless there is anther one that does the same thing. the one in my area is nicknamed the brown snake by everyone. he has intimidated and harassed alot of ambos in my area. management love him and expect he got promoted by being seen to be hard on the troops. so do some of our low life hsu delegates, if someone speaks out about piss poor representation or whatever from hsu these delegates call him in and they attack him or her like a pack of hungry hyenas. he is a slippery as a wet turd but comes across as a really nice guy. but don't be fooled he will find a way to get you, case sheets generally, or at leasdt stir you up until you tell him to fuck off. and when you do he calls in managers above him saying you have issues or your unstable. when it gets to that stage your credibilty is shot with other managers and it's game over.
March 3, 2009 9:06 PM
Anonymous said...
"Slippery as a wet TURD"
How fucken Australian is that.
That is Choice.
Slippery wet turds and turds in medication bags, I FUCKEN love it.
The TURD is the only thing that gives me satisfaction.
March 3, 2009 9:51 PM
Anonymous said...
The only fucken wet slippery turd is rochford.
so rochford what excuses are you going to say on radio today?
I wil be listening to see how you are going to cover this one up!
your demise will come,dont worry about that sunshine.
March 4, 2009 6:30 AM
Anonymous said...
Thats the ticket !!! NAME NAMES !!! I knew it would take an ambo's wife to find the guts to do it though.
But www.paramedicsnsw.org.au is where we all need to start naming these bully's ! thats how we are going to GET them.
If we all do this and all stick together with this group of highly committed ambos who have actually put actions to their words then we can eventually stop this from happening to others.
And to those people calling "off staion" for lunch from all sectors ..... WELL DONE !!!
A confirmed report yesterday was that over 90 cars over Sydney were unavailabe for work, for at least one hour !
This is really biting them and sooner or later, they will get the message.
March 4, 2009 10:18 AM
Anonymous said...
thanks for the support,but the other site is not open to ambo wives,,,,nor should it be.
Iam over the whole bullying shit,and when they start to bully the wives,familys,its time to speak out.Who else are we going to talk to,when everyone is a potential enemy.
One can only go to the media,but even then they too arent to interested at times.Why?
This needs support from Ambos too,this effects all of you,,do you want your familys to have to fight to get what they are entitle to.
Just remember its you who are paying for this schemme,no one else.Your hard earn cash.
Tell me would you all be so keen to hand over cash to Joe Blow up the road,who tells you,with very little understanding of what your paying for,,,,makeing sure there are no surprises,well thats exactly whats happening,,,and changeing the rules as they go along,with hidden loop holes,that after 12months of no payment,this then attracts a tax.
This is alarge chunk of money each fortnight,are we getting our moneys worth?,,,I think not.
March 4, 2009 11:35 AM
G.R is a C**T said...
The new secret society of the Ambulance service is slowly but surely gathering momentum. Paramedics.org. Enter at your own risk and supply your svc email and we will let you in. The blog stated to stay tune we will be up and running in a couple of weeks, what a load of bullshit.Where is their continual updates and support.
Who is even running the show for fuck sake.
Do not be sucked in by these people, do not give them your email. Better still do not show your support by joining until they prove themselves.
Remember enter at your own risk.
March 4, 2009 12:31 PM
Secret Squirel said...
Dear G.R is a C**T (Well you certainly got that right!)
"The new secret society", I love it. Now my hubby can have what the senior executive has had for years, does he get a secret handshake and fries with that?
"Enter at your own risk": Are you so scared that showing your support for this new association will get little diddums into trouble?
"Who is even running the show for fuck sake": It seems they may be people like you, scared of their own shadow. If you believe in something why don't you stand up for it?
"Do not be sucked in by these people, do not give them your email" What are you afraid of spam mail???
"Better still do not show your support by joining until they prove themselves" Now what a clever idea that is, did you think it up all by yourself? It will never get off the ground if you all sit on your hands waiting for someone else to make things happen.
"Remember enter at your own risk" Ohhaahh be afraid, be very afraid.
The last time I looked Australia was still a free country.
You will never get anywhere if you don't help make it work. You let the service run all over you and what do you do, just sit back, throw a tantrum and wait and wait and wait for someone with some guts to come along and save you all.
Someone said "For evil to flourish all it takes is for men of good will to do nothing". That about sums it up don't you think?
Get a life do you lot think you live in Burma or something? Do you think you will be beaten and get thrown into jail?
How many of you have openly gone to the media and told them what is really going on in the service. No one, except for Phil Roxburgh God bless him.
You all make me sick, you let the service ruin my husband's career and did nothing.
We spouses are sick of listening to all the drivel you come home from a shift with.
March 4, 2009 1:53 PM
dole bludger,bring it on !!! said...
TO G.R is a C**T
I think the biggest risk any ambo can take is to join the HSU.
Tell me,, because I must of missed somethink here,,,,What in Gods Sake has the HSU done for me????
What has happened in the last 12 months?
conditions gone,
pay loss,
should i go on?
Who really fucking cares anymore if rochford reads this,or managers for that matter.
We have nothing to lose,nothing,except our jobs,,and I can tell you I dont even care about that anymore!!!
The Dole line looks good to me!!!!
March 4, 2009 2:02 PM
Anonymous said...
To Sercret Squirel,
Yeah i cant agree more.Iam also a ambos wife.
Ive seen my husband turn from a normal human being to almost a wreck,all because these weak bastards cant stand up for themselves,Yes it takes a ambos wife to speak out,I have had a gut full of all the crap.
20yrs is far to long,crimminals in jail get it easier than our husbands.
Maybe its time for the wives to take over this blogg,have our own meetings,have a support group,and go to the media.
The Svc has been able to bully for far to long,,,,now they (Rochford) have crossed the line and is now coming after th familys,e.g
Barry Tritons,wife.
I have taken this to the media over the past 2 days,,,Iam hopeing more will come of it.
My Husband believes that the other site should be open to the spouses.How else are we to contribute,maybe the opperators of the other site may be able to work on a system where the ambo is able to apply,and have their spouses email registered for the blogg?
Just a thought,you know the old saying"behinde every good man is a great women"
anyway secret squirel,its great to hear from another.keep your chin up,I feel the battle has really just begun.
March 4, 2009 2:20 PM
Blow said...
I think we should have a state wide, "Give your Ambo hubby a blowjob day" that will boost some morale
March 4, 2009 3:51 PM
Anonymous said...
I bet that comment came from a bloke!
thats where your brains are!!!!
and you are properly still a member of the HSU,,,,wanker
March 4, 2009 4:10 PM
Anonymous said...
I bet that comment came from a bloke!
thats where your brains are!!!!
and you are properly still a member of the HSU,,,,wanker
March 4, 2009 4:11 PM
G.R is a C**T said...
Well luv my sympathies go out to your family. My point is if can't trust our management, our union and our fellow work mates who vote against us in sub branch union meetings so who can you trust.
My other point is this so called new association now has blocked previous members access but will allow access on the priviso you supply a work email.
WHY.
Call it what you will but i know of a sector manager up on the central Coast that keeps names of people who are not union members, what the fuck for.
Now if that is not aform of intimidation what the fuck is it.
This is not sitting on my hands rather i am just being careful who i provide my details to.
I do not hate this job i just hate the fuckers that have their own agendas and ambitions whether that be management or the corrupt union delegates we voted for that continually screw us over and who misrepresent us and put forward votes on our behalf.
I would love nothing more than to see ICAC get involved and jail these pricks.
And to any manager out there reading this on the day it comes for you to retire you won't get a thank you either, you will only go down in the history of the asnsw as another cunt that wore the same uniform.
March 4, 2009 4:36 PM
Anonymous said...
haven't seen any named bullies on this blog yet, must all be lies. if ya goin ta bag the fuckers out then name the aresholes otherwise shut the fuck up about bullying and get back to work you gutless morons
love g rochfud
March 4, 2009 4:36 PM
Anonymous said...
Well if you read the blog correctly you inbred fuck it would not take a genius to work out who they are talking about.
Maybe legal action might be a concern, don't you think.
How about crawling back up GR arse where ya belong, cause i am sure you would have a certificate to practice in that field.
March 4, 2009 5:20 PM
Anonymous said...
theres nothing wrong with the new manager on the central coast at least hes prepared to have a go
March 4, 2009 6:22 PM
Anonymous said...
I agree he is only working within the rules that were made.
by OUR CORRUPT FUCKING UNION
March 4, 2009 9:56 PM
Eric Talbot said...
I worked twice in 2 different areas of the service with a manager who should be running this service. He recently retired and was told by his bosses he was never going to go any higher because he got on too well with the rank and file. There is your answer right there. Problem is. Some young buck decides to get some rank and has a degree in shit carting so with his 3 years service behind him he puts in for an SO's oops sorry a Team Leader's job at a busy station and gets it. Now he not only has to work the road with all the shit that goes with it but he has to do his TL work as well. So 3 months later management decide to test his metal and offer him an acting DO's job. He gets a car, no nightshifts, a pay rise and gets to pretty much do as he pleases and a DO's job is shit easy. Long as you can delegate you are good to go. So he has a choice. He can look after his men and women and management will see he is weak and not up to being a boss and he will never see an ADO job again OR he can be a prick and look good in the eyes of the bosses and probably get a permo DO appt within 12 months. What would you do? I have been at meetings with management as an ASO and had them bagging outevery officer on the books. When I said " do you bag the shit out of me like that when I am not here" they just looked me in the eye and said of course we do. It takes a special person to be a boss and the service grooms them to fit.
March 4, 2009 10:20 PM
Anonymous said...
You mean the same union who allows the service to put us on a sick leave probation if we have more than 6 single sick leave periods. We get 15 days a year we should be able to take them. Can't believe they allowed that to go through either. I don't remember getting asked about that.
March 4, 2009 10:24 PM
SPIDER said...
Eric Talbot,
Well said, good to see someone else knows what is going on. You forgot to mention that these meetings where ambos are bagged out by managers, the managers are also paying HSU members just like us. If your in the club and seen to play their schoolboy game your protected, if not things can go badly for you as happened to me. Christine Hodder is a perfect example. She spoke out and obviously spoke out about one of the protected ones or a few of them.
I believe she even took her complaints outside the service. Unfortunately any complaints made to external agencies are referred back to the service for an explanation. Report something to the Minister, ICAC or the Ombudsman and they will just ask the service for an explanation. The PSCU which is grossly understaffed in turn requests a report from the particular Division involved where it is then sent down the line probably for some D/O to investigate.
That’s when the truth starts to get jaded or the cover up begins. Depending who is involved and their level of protection, as I mention before, will determine if the truth about the matter will ever surface. Also the truth may also be covered up by managers higher up the chain because they fear they might get a kick in the arse for not managing the problem properly in the first place. Information from the investigation is passed back up to the Divisional Managers who tell Rochford there is no problem because they too want to be seen as good managers especially when Rochford renews their performance contracts.
Furthermore, if there is a question about the integrity of the investigation the investigator can always rely on HSU to support them as they will argue that they have never been trained to conduct an investigation in the first place.
In the end Rochford reports back to the external agency with some dodgey information he has been given saying that there has been a thorough investigation and that the complaint made by the officer is unsupported. Obviously this happened in the Christine Hodder case and will continue until management and all of their corrupt dealings with our union are removed once and for all.
And here is the outrageous bit. HSU then attacks Rochford through the media because he relied on his managers (HSU members) to do the right thing in the first place.
SPIDER
March 4, 2009 11:40 PM
Anonymous said...
Spider. Your last post confirms you are without doubt a fucking idiot and really have no idea!!!!
March 5, 2009 7:54 AM
SPIDER said...
Can you be more specific nitwit. I doubt it.
SPIDER
March 5, 2009 8:40 AM
Anonymous said...
Hey spider... well done !
You are dead right yet again and anyone who has been on the end of one of these investigations knows only to well what you are talking about ... dont pay any attention to that last idiot !
Hey did you see that late last night, ken pritchard offered an alternate to the 16 week roster he has been trying to shove down our throats with the help of the HSU for the last few weeks ???
SEE !... it is working this pressure we are putting them under with a united front of everyone going off station for luch is working...
Yep listen all you non believers out there !!! they are hurting and hurting bad because for once (without any help from the HSU) we are standing together and saying ENOUGH !!
I say keep it up and soon you will see money following this roster alternative as well !!!
Like i said before, the only thing a bully understands is outright defiance and immediate and serious action !!!
NOTHING ELSE WORKS !!!
NEVER FORGET THAT.
March 5, 2009 8:52 AM
SPIDER said...
Anonymous,
Initially I was concerned that taking lunch off station might be seen to the media and the public as unprofessional and attract some criticism. Then again they might think look at the lengths these guys have to go to to get a fair go. I don’t work in your area and therefore I am not affected by the new rosters so I don’t know much about it.
It really must be surreal though when KP, paid union delegates and our own delegates sit down at the table to negotiate the new rosters. Everyone there is on the same side being in the same union and all. Talk about multiple personalities. I would expect the most boisterous or politically connected one would eventually get their our way. I wonder who that might be?
It would do my head in for sure.
Take care Brother,
SPIDER
March 5, 2009 10:39 AM
Nosey Bob said...
Um Hi been reading these blogs to try and get an appreciation of what is happening with the Ambos, and this may seem like a dumb question but what does SVC stand for??
March 5, 2009 2:31 PM
Anonymous said...
Spider. Your latest posts confirm you are without doubt a fucking idiot and really have no idea!!!!
March 5, 2009 4:04 PM
Anonymous said...
dear nosey bob:
SVC stands for Service, as in Ambulance Service of NSW.
It used to be called a service, but due to staff shortages, and masses of increases of bureaucrats and their hugs salaries we have had to remove the word service to save money, hence it is now SVC
March 5, 2009 4:12 PM
Anonymous said...
I heard the central coast ambo's are NOT taking their meal off station.
Why?
it is working a treat out here in the western sector.
C'mon, this is our last chance to give em hell for a while
March 5, 2009 5:21 PM
screwe central coast ambo said...
how can we take our meals off station,we are stuck at Gosford Hospital,or standing by at jobs,or station.
unlike Sydney we only the choice of 2 hospitals,gosford which is a basket case 99% of the time,and Wyong 110% of the time,and are select on what they can take.
So now you might have an idea why COs and Meal Pen were so important.
we just dont get meals with or without the pens.
March 5, 2009 6:05 PM
Anonymous said...
If its working such "atreat",,,,why arent the penalitys been returned?
March 5, 2009 6:07 PM
Anonymous said...
To knob from the west complaining about CC ambos not taking their meals off stn, Its working so well taking your meal off in in Sydney you that you sydney cunts are getting the 4x4 while we get the 4x5. You fuckers voted against industrial action last week and now you put shit on us for not going off stn. Good work useless cunt. Hope you enjoy 2 weeks of ADO's at flat rate.
March 5, 2009 6:32 PM
Anonymous said...
Let them have it! Seriously, c'mon gang all out! or at least all off station for meals, not OT etc. It hurts a little at first but think of the big picture and the termoil it will cause and bye the way, smash your sickies. it feels good to give yourself mini annual leave breaks. That's what the Firies do! Just get more organinsed. Corrupt Union. Corrupt management. Corrrupt State Govrnment. What a bunch of clowns they are. Pitty us to have them for another 5 years? It will be there last. Don;t forget to ring in to 2gb and send emails to Alan Jones and Ray Hadley. They know we are beeing reemed. Thank God i joined the Cops. I feel for my ex brothers but at the same time have lost a little respect bucause you can can not pull together.
March 5, 2009 6:56 PM
Anonymous said...
Last comment. Sorry about the spelling but i have now become an alcoholic due to the Ambulance Service.
March 5, 2009 6:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Dear GR is a c**t
Which CC manager keeps a list of non union members the old or new one, Dent or Elliott? I hear the sub branch delegates tell em. Those two delegates are pushing for skill mix the fuckers and they want to get rid of the Terrigal and Ettalong afternoon shifts and further decrease the MOL's. I bet they're on the management payroll.
March 5, 2009 7:21 PM
Anonymous said...
Oh yes your right the last poster. Union delegates sucking up to management at our expense to further their own careers. How many times have we seen that, screwing the troops over to earn some brownie points. Just like those delegates who negotiated with the service to keep single officer stations as long as they could just so they could make Living Away from Home Allowance and Call-Out money because they were the ones who backed these single officer stations up. No regard for the patients or other ambos just wanted to make some money for themselves. Talk about filth.
March 5, 2009 8:38 PM
Anonymous said...
I am afraid you took me the wrong way when I said its working a treat,
I meant thats its really pissing the management off.
I am definately not happy about any award change anywhere in the state.
But I will forgive you for jumping down my throat, the service has turned us all in to cranky cunts.
I NEVER used to tell a patient "get in lets go"
That is now the first thing I say to them, unless they are sick, which is fucking rarely.
They have turned me into a monster.
I am disapointed in myself as much as I am the service.
SORRY
FUCKEN NOT
March 5, 2009 9:22 PM
PT said...
There's an update on the formation of an Association on www.paramedicsnsw.org.au for those of you (like me) who trust that forum and are happy to log on give it a read.
March 5, 2009 10:18 PM
Anonymous said...
The new Sector manager for the CC keeps a list of non union members. The old one was to fuckin stupid to keep a list beause it was to much work for him.
More to the point why the fuck his he still in the job?
Fuck Off.
March 5, 2009 10:40 PM
Anonymous said...
Obviously someone is a bit sensitive about what is being said on this blogsite. Maybe a corrupt manager or a corrupt HSU sub-branch delegate. Maybe both, maybe they are takings turns at sitting on each others laps. Hi boys!
Oh yes your right the last poster. Union delegates sucking up to management at our expense to further their own careers. How many times have we seen that, screwing the troops over to earn some brownie points. Just like those delegates who negotiated with the service to keep single officer stations as long as they could just so they could make Living Away from Home Allowance and Call-Out money because they were the ones who backed these single officer stations up. No regard for the patients or other ambos just wanted to make some money for themselves. Talk about filth.
Back to what is really important(ripped off D&D)
You dont pay tax on the death component,but you do pay tax on the disability component.21.5% is taken out on the Total,Permanent Disability.
Now call me stupid!,but i have read everthing there is to read on the D&D,but do you think I can even find the word TAX,in any paragragh!NO.
I rang First State Super,they told me.
so your premiums are not taxed,but your payout is.Good work HSU.
Greg Rochfords contract is up in MAY 09.
No wonder he is in a hurry to get rosters,etc,done by then.It just might get him a bigger bonus.
In relation to the Central Coast the area is currently under negotiations with staff for the implementation of a 4 on 5 off roster ( this was the services proposal placed before the three stooges at the IRC), it has a bipartisan working group that has just concluded presentations at each station within the sector. A specific roster format at this time has been agreed to by all stations except wyong due to the staffing numbers there.
With regards to skill mix a vote by way of secret ballot was taken at a sub branch meeting which gave a final result of 81% for skill mix and 19% against, this was a fair and democratic process. There are many paramedics within the sector whom have positions at other stations (and prefer it this way) than the three stations that contain these rosters. As for the prior comment that the Sector Manager has a list of non union members this is not the case the area saw a mass exodus from the union post the wage claim decision. Finally the issue of going off station for meal was carried out by this sector some 3 years ago but under the current environment it is extremely rare for any crew to be near any station all shift, unfortunately this is due to gross neglect by the service that still sees staffing levels as the same as they were 20 years ago and the choice of only two hospitals some 50 km apart only exacerbates the situation.
The Mong says
Fuck off to skill mix on the coast. That records to that vote dont exist therefore I took another vote when i stacked a meeting and we voted for IC cars to remain, Yeah!!!
Where has Dent gone? Please don't tell me he has been promoted even further!!!!
Say what you like mong ive got them right here
Tuff luck gronk
Allan Dent has applied for redundancy it has at this time been approved by both Rochford and Willis and is now with the Health Dept for approval at the present time hes in charge of paper clips in the Central Coast Sector
19 percent fucking level 5 cocks, get over your self, theres an old boys club that need a fuck in the arse
I like to thank the Service and the HSU for fucking me over, for the loss of pay, conditions,rescue and lifestyle. I see that the dog Rochford is going in May sooner the fucken better i would advise anyone reading this to commence looking for another job. These cunts known as the ASNSW will in the near future take anything else you have left and give you nothing for it, you are all about to get a driver soon as a recommendation of the Garling Report, recommendation made by a clown with a degree in law and the arts and no fucken idea on health, this was outside the scope of the enquiry but little greg threw it in there for good measure just as he did with his private meetings with the SRB i myself are moving on thanks again to all parties who fucked a good job.
where are you moving on to.
I can see a sydney transfer in the very near future for you Mong,
Job about.
Fucking Mint
What the fuck is a Dent and an Elliot? Sounds like something from ET! Are they joke names?
Is Mong, really a mong?
Please don't take our penalties! What a joke! Get some balls and walk!
What a fuck up this site has become! It was to vent with the objective to go forward, not to put shit on each other! Good luck with the future, corrupt union and corrupt and broke state government. Christ we need some help. Pump the media with everything you have and don't back down. GOOD LUCK.
Fuck me, but please will G. Rochford hurry the fuck up and fuck right off.
You cunt the most trusted profession my arse.
The most used,abused,intimidated, bullied, harrassed and under paid would be pretty accurate.
This cunt has given away rescue, taken away call off's and late meals and award condtions, has the gall to question your integrity if you take more than 6 sick days with a probation for 6 months, wants to now give us 4 by 4 rosters and even thats not enough, he wants to give our jobs to the over paid lazy fuckin firies.
Just shows i suppose what a level of QF paramedic is worth. FUCK ALL.
Before long we wont have jobs to come to unless you want to be a QF PTO for a annual base rate wage 12 hr shifts doing R3 -R7's.
We had the chance to do something about it but for the soft cocks in this job you will be bent over forever and screwed up the arse.
But don't forget when it does happen i guarantee you as usual will be the first to whinge about it.
Fuck Rochford off and bring on the Liberals.
Hopefully we will get the last laugh.
Roachford won't leave in May. Why would he. He has the best job in the world running an organisation he knows nothing about. Who hasn't done a shitty job in the pouring rain in the middle of the night and thought why the fuck am I doing this. He gets 5 times the money we get to work monday to friday no on call. He won't leave and Della Bosca said on Ray Hadley that he had confidence in him. Hadley was calling for him to be sacked.
You guys knocking Rochford are uninformed. He has done allot to help this service. If you had any idea what it was like before he joined us you would know. I am afraid the union hype blaming just one man has brainwashed you guys. I hope Rochford does leave if indeed his contract is up in May he deserves better than you knuckleheads.
And when the next CEO arrives it will all start over again, blame just one man.
Have you ever noticed HSU has never addressed the issue of bullying and harassment in the service. This is because uniformed managers are the main harassers, and HSU never says anything because they are paying HSU members just like us. Are you aware of all the lies that HSU told the last parliamentary inquiry, none of us had any input into the submission for a start. Most of it was concocted from baseless facts to take a shot at Rochford as usual. Have you ever noticed how the various sub-branches can never agree on anything or support each other. Most couldn’t agree on the colour of the sky. Have you ever noticed how our sub-branch executives set their own agendas to look after themselves, voting against enhancing single officer stations is a classic example so they could make some money in allowances backing these singles up. It goes on and on.
The lack of integrity amongst some individuals in this wonderful service and the fact that management is in and runs our union is the problem. But if you robots want to blame just one man go for it.
Hitler was right, if you say something often enough, keep on repeating it, get others to repeat it, you can get the majority of people to believe it. Look at what he was able to get people to do.
SPIDER
Spider I have been in the job a long time and I have seen it as bad as it is now. If Rochford is on our side why hasn't he spoke out aginst the bullying and harrassment that goes on. The fact is that Rochford is in charge and everything that has happened including the disgusting acts performed on Christine Hodder happened under his watch and he did nothing about it even after plenty of ambo's wrote to him and told him. I myself have written to him on more than a dozen occassions to ask him about various things and have had no reply. I have feedback from my area manager to say "oh we know about you and your emails" so it is obvious he gets them but chooses to stick his head in the sand as usual. The guy is a fuckwit and the sooner he goes the better and I hope he takes that traitor willis with him.
Spider the management and the union are all tarred with the one brush my friend. It will do you no good getting on hear and preaching to us that this all stems from the union alone. This is happening because of our gutless and selfish management and the union is allowing it to happen.
PS Hitler was a cunt as well.
Hitler was a cunt..but at least he new when his time was up and knocked himself off...ROACHFORD still thinks we all love him...what an idiot. If he reads this "Greg, do us all a favour and finish it like hitler did....please.
Anonymous March 7, 2009 11:39 AM ,
I want to believe someone out there has our interests at heart and has some decency and integrity. If what you say is true then that would be very disappointing for sure. I prefer to keep my mind open for now.
SPIDER
Spider. You continue to provide us your ill informed views about Roachford on this post which only goes to confirm you are without doubt a fucking idiot and really have no idea!!!!
I beleive Dennis Ravlich and his wife have gone on stress leave!FACT.
Oh well bad luck.
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