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«Oldest ‹Older 3001 – 3200 of 5605 Newer› Newest»I am no fan of the HSU but....I don't think they helped management get their huge pay rises. What was presented at the IRC was the HSU's award ad the Servies award. The IRC Judge Imamoron had no desire to implament the HSU award and went straight for the services award which of course included the huge payrises for the bosses as they would. Nobody was allowed to stand up and explain to him how advanced our skills have become or anything else. You know that poster in your station that sayd corruption is wrong, tear it down. The government, ambulance service managers and the IRC are all on the same side. There was never any chance we were going to get anything decent and especially now in the current economic climate.
We could of got it back at the Mass Rally, but your soft cock HSU + Delegates + members dropped the ball big time.
So you got what you deserved.
I bet you voted for Labor at the last election?
This is called KARMA Fuckwits.
"It shall be presumptively appropriate to exclude persons who exercise authority on behalf of the employer over subordinate employees (usually termed "supervisors") from unions containing their rank-and-file subordinates, in order to avoid a potential for conflicts of interest."
Get management and their nepotistic old boys club out of OUR union now!!!!
"Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely"
SPIDER
Thanks for the phone call buddy
Poor lost souls,
Spider:
Change your fucking mantra you idiot.
We are sick of all your crap about everyone being in the same union. That relationship happens everywhere AND it works well too I might add.
A combination of the two in the same representative body is an avenue for both to work for common goals.
Sick leave entitlements; career structure and the extensive list goes on.
Should there is a disciplinery issue that affects both a supervisor and their employee, their combined employer takes the managers side and the union takes on the emplyee's side.
Its not fucking rocket science; its just an example of how IR laws can work to suit both parties.
Hows your paramedic course going mate - or are you going to blame your kids, the system, the brotherhood and every other bastard that you can for your own failures and pathetic career?
Oh that's right, you don't exist as a sworn officer because you ARE Rochford.
P.A.P.
dear Bob B
Better stay in the room Bob.
Clearly the medical aspects of the job are beyond you.
Just admire your reflection in the Cad screens.
But whatever the fuck you do don't come anywhere near my family in your ambo suit, they might think you know what you are doing......na they wouldnt really
P.A.P,
Well Papster you finally want to have dialogue with me. I knew you would because deep down I think you like me. And yes I’ve done the upgrade, got the “tin” badge but unlike you I will never have an inflated idea of my own importance. Unfortunately P.A.P you will always be concerned about yourself and your advantage to the exclusion of others which is very sad.
As for my mantra about management being in the same union. Change, reform and consensus are the cornerstones of modern industrial relations. See what has happened in the States, Japan, Germany, and some European countries. Workchoices identified some of our “outdated” IR laws but there is still away to go. Having Supervisors/Managers in the same bargaining unit or union is even banned in the Philippines for fuck sake.
P.A.P never assume, as some may try and tell you that the relationship between the Service and HSU is a fine example of the application of fair and transparent industrial relations policy. The more I look our corrupt system the more I see an erosion of an ambos right to a fair go which includes impartial management decisions. What chance do you have when your manager holds a position of influence and power within your own union. It’s not rocket science my friend.
I saw first hand how the brothers manipulated the system to suit themselves. Sacking or demoting those who challenged their nepotistic boys club ways. They ate CEO’s for lunch and it went on for years until Rochford arrived on the scene. Unfortunately after all his efforts to stamp it out it still goes on as detailed in the latest parliamentary inquiry. Throw into the mix the damage Malone, McCarthy and their band of nitwits did in relation to giving ambos a chance at fair and equitable career progression, and bingo, you have our current cultural problems.
SPIDER
P.A.P.
you are an ill informed idiot !!
There is simply nothing else to say !!!!
Spider,
You are spot on as usual. I have followed your posts with interest for a long time now and you spell it out in simple terms for everyone to understand. Good on you mate!!!
As many staff will be aware, the Minister for Health, John Della Bosca, has been consulting widely with the Service, staff and the Health Services Union over the last three months about the rescue decision originally made on 2 September 2008. The Minster subsequently wrote to the State Rescue Board requesting they review their previous recommendation, taking into account feedback from many stakeholders and the implementation process.
The Ambulance Service has received advice today that the Minister for Emergency Services has accepted the recommendation of the State Rescue Board to uphold current rescue arrangements. This means the transfer of Ambulance rescue accreditation at Parramatta, Camden, St Ives, Caringbah, Bankstown, Hamilton, Point Clare and Wollongong has been confirmed.
While I recognise that this has been an emotive issue and that affected rescue staff will be upset by the final decision, the State Rescue Board has ruled and it is now time to implement this decision.
As many staff will be aware, the Minister for Health, John Della Bosca, has been consulting widely with the Service, staff and the Health Services Union over the last three months about the rescue decision originally made on 2 September 2008. The Minster subsequently wrote to the State Rescue Board requesting they review their previous recommendation, taking into account feedback from many stakeholders and the implementation process.
The Ambulance Service has received advice today that the Minister for Emergency Services has accepted the recommendation of the State Rescue Board to uphold current rescue arrangements. This means the transfer of Ambulance rescue accreditation at Parramatta, Camden, St Ives, Caringbah, Bankstown, Hamilton, Point Clare and Wollongong has been confirmed.
While I recognise that this has been an emotive issue and that affected rescue staff will be upset by the final decision, the State Rescue Board has ruled and it is now time to implement this decision.
In moving forward it is important to note that:
paramedics will continue to attend all rescues involving a patient and will retain medical control at the scene to guide rescue personnel on the manner and timing of extrication in accordance with S2.20 of the State Rescue Policy;
paramedic positions released by the change will not be lost but used to increase the numbers of rapid response units and emergency ambulances; and,
training resources will be used to introduce a new “Special Operations” access skills qualification to improve our capacity to deliver timely medical care to people in situations where access is difficult or hazardous. This will mean an expansion of access skills beyond current SCAT positions and the geographic coverage of the former Ambulance rescue units.
I remain committed to making the best use of the considerable skills of rescue paramedics and assisting affected staff to identify the most suitable career options for them. Options for affected rescue staff include:
continuing ambulance duties at current locations or another station with an appropriate vacancy;
priority for transfer to a vacant paramedic (rescue) position in rural NSW;
priority to work as a rapid responder (subject to entry and training requirements); and
priority access to special access training either in SCAT or the new Special Operations qualification (subject to meeting relevant selection criteria).
Full recognition of Ambulance leave entitlements and superannuation would also be retained if an officer decided to transfer to the NSW Fire Brigade.
Assistant Divisional Managers and District Managers will be in contact with affected staff to discuss their preferred option so training can be arranged. It should be noted that the transition will be managed with as much flexibility as possible. I have also written to the Health Services Union today to arrange an appropriate consultation forum to support the transition period.
I am very much aware of the personal commitment that the affected rescue officers have made and the depth of feeling of some of our staff on this issue. I take this opportunity to remind everyone that difficult decisions do need to be made and implemented by organisations and by Governments from time to time. There was no easy or simple solution on this occasion and the decision has been made. Now is the time to support our colleagues, make the changes as smoothly and fairly as we can.
Greg Rochford
Chief Executive
we had our chance to walk but we fucked up
Great news about rescue get over it you lazy cunts get ready to send those uniforms back too
SWEET DREAMS
The NSW ambulance rescue unit won't be re-instated, with the rescue board ruling against a planned negotiation.
Health Minister John Della Bosca had been working to negotiate with the ambulance service after the Rescue Wing was scrapped in September.
It was handed to the fire brigade to free 88 specially trained paramedics for emergency patient care.
The dispute has been before the Industrial Relations Commission for months, with trucks in eight regions maintained.
But the Rescue board has today ruled the full service won't be reinstated maintaining the status quo.
No don't send the uniforms back we will just change the name from Rescue to Special Operations. See now we are Special. Sounds like our role is about to expand. Looks like I will still be able to watch Oprah after all.
First Rescue and then call offs and late meals a uniform that reflects exactly where it is made (Come back Serge all is forgiven) who is next? The people who are not supporting the removal of rescue because they are jealous that they aren't rescue too will rue the day they didn't stand up and be counted. Their short sightedness doesn't make them understand that it is not about rescue it is about a career path, it is about eroding the service that some of have known and loved for a long time. In years to come and it might not be too far down the track the government is going to recognise that we are a bunch of pushovers who stand and take whatever they dish out and will sell us off. It has been talked about before. I remember Bob Carr telling us at the post Thredbo dinner that we were heroes and a week later saying if we didn't lift our game he would privatise us. So if you think your safe government job is going to be here forever think again. You rescue haters out there might just be the next ones to be affected by something other than losing a few dollars a week in call offs. Some of us have seen the best this service can offer and will be retiring soon. It won't affect us but others are going to be looking over their shoulders wondering what the CEO and the Govt are dreaming up next. This job isn't about the patient anymore, they aren't even called that anymore, they are customers!They don't care about the sick and injured they only care about money. That's the way governments work and Rochford only cares about budgets because if he keeps his budget in check he gets to keep his high paid job. We care about patients, we are the only ones regardless about all the spin that pollies and the Ceo spruke off to the media. If they can save money by selling us off then watch them do it. Good luck to the young ones in this job. You are going to need it.
Fuck you are all stupid !!!
I bet you rescue people are all still paying into the " help get michael Willaimson into parliment " fund !!!
He and the HSU are the crooks that have sold you out.... The HSU were told a long time ago about rescue going and Michael Willaimson AGREED to it !!!
While you still pay into that corrupt bunch of managers.... you deserve everything you get !
SEEN THE BLAH, BLAH FROM FEARLESS LEADER:
As many staff will be aware, the Minister for Health, John Della Bosca, has been consulting widely with the Service, staff and the Health Services Union over the last three months about the rescue decision originally made on 2 September 2008. The Minster subsequently wrote to the State Rescue Board requesting they review their previous recommendation, taking into account feedback from many stakeholders and the implementation process.
So Roachford has written a nice farewell to Rescue with lovely emotive stuff like:
While I recognise that this has been an emotive issue and that affected rescue staff will be upset by the final decision, the State Rescue Board has ruled and it is now time to implement this decision.
In moving forward it is important to note that:
paramedics will continue to attend all rescues involving a patient and will retain medical control at the scene to guide rescue personnel on the manner and timing of extrication in accordance with S2.20 of the State Rescue Policy - GEE ISN'T IT NICE THAT WE WILL BE INVITED TO ATTEND TRAPPED PATIENTS AND "GUIDE" RESCUE PERSONNEL WHO WOULD RATHER BE WATCHING TELLY
paramedic positions released by the change will not be lost but used to increase the numbers of rapid response units and emergency ambulances; (AND YOU THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A NICE CHANGE TO A RAPID RESPONSE VEHICLE)
and,
training resources will be used to introduce a new “Special Operations” access skills qualification to improve our capacity to deliver timely medical care to people in situations where access is difficult or hazardous. This will mean an expansion of access skills beyond current SCAT positions and the geographic coverage of the former Ambulance rescue units. - BUT YOU HAVE FUCK ALL CHANCE OF GETTING ONE OF THESE SHIRTS
I remain committed to making the best use of the considerable skills of rescue paramedics and assisting affected staff to identify the most suitable career options for them. - GET YOUR ASS INTO A AMBULANCE AND STAND IN TROLLEY BLOCK ASSHOLE!
Options for affected rescue staff include:
continuing ambulance duties at current locations or another station with an appropriate vacancy - HOW NICE WE GET TO STAY WHERE WE WERE, BUT I'LL JUST BET THE "NEEDS OF THE SERVICE" WILL KNOCK THAT ON THE HEAD
priority for transfer to a vacant paramedic (rescue) position in rural NSW - GOODY WE CAN LEAVE AND GO BUSH IF SOMEONE DIES IN A RESCUE STATION IN COWRA
priority to work as a rapid responder (subject to entry and training requirements) - WELL PRIORITY IS A WONDERFUL THING BUT THEY CAN FIND YOU UNSUITABLE FOR TRAINING
and
priority access to special access training either in SCAT or the new Special Operations qualification (subject to meeting relevant selection criteria) - SELECTION CRITERIA WILL SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDE EVERYONE WHO IS NOT IN THE CLIQUE
Full recognition of Ambulance leave entitlements and superannuation would also be retained if an officer decided to transfer to the NSW Fire Brigade - GOLLY WE CAN MOVE AND LEARN TO EAT SMOKE IF WE ARE ACCEPTED AND THEN IMMEDIATELY GO ON LONG SERVICE LEAVE DURING TRAINING.
Assistant Divisional Managers and District Managers will be in contact with affected staff to discuss their preferred option so training can be arranged. It should be noted that the transition will be managed with as much flexibility as possible. I have also written to the Health Services Union today to arrange an appropriate consultation forum to support the transition period - AHH AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY AS POSSIBLE I CAN SEE THAT ALL OF OUR NEEDS WILL BE MET BY OUR CARING MANAGERS
I am very much aware of the personal commitment that the affected rescue officers have made and the depth of feeling of some of our staff on this issue. I take this opportunity to remind everyone that difficult decisions do need to be made and implemented by organisations and by Governments from time to time. - I GOT WHAT I WANT, SO WHO CARES
There was no easy or simple solution on this occasion and the decision has been made. Now is the time to support our colleagues, make the changes as smoothly and fairly as we can. - YEAH NOW WE WILL SUPPORT THEM, HEY, IT'S A DONE DEAL, SUCK SHIT !
OK NOW LET'S LOOK AT HOW THIS DEAL WAS DONE:
1. OLD CRAZY EYES AND THE FLIGHT ATTENDANT GO TO THE RESCUE BOARD MEETING AND SAY "WELL, ANY OF YOU GUYS WANT RESCUE?"
2. REBA ARIBA GIVES THEM THE THUMBS UP
3. HSU HOLLERS "THE STATUS QUO" SHOULD REMAIN UNTIL THE MATTER IS NEGOTIATED
4. REBA ROLLS OVER 'CAUSE THE RESCUE BOARD HAS MADE IT'S DECISION AND WE CAN'T BE ACCREDITED (WHAT HAD CHANGED IN 3 DAYS? EVERYONE FORGOTTEN THEIR STUFF?)
5. REBA GOES (SOB) AND IGUANA JOE TAKES THE REINS
6. HSU DOES THE BUDDY BUDDY WITH DELLA AND THEY ALL SPRUKE POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT OVERTURNING THE DECISION
7. A BIT OF IRC CRAP FOR A WHILE
8. IGUANA JOE GIVES MINISTER KELLY THE NUDGE, NUDGE, WINK, WINK
9. IT GOES BACK TO THE RESCUE BOARD AND OLD CRAZY EYES HAS TO VOTE TO KEEP RESCUE ( BET THAT HURT), BUT NO ONE ELSE CARES
10. BOARD VOTED NO
11. KELLY SAYS "NOTHING I CAN DO" THE BOARD HAS MADE IT'S DECISION (HEY I'M ONLY THE FUCKING MINISTER AFTER ALL)
12. IGUANA JOE SAYS "GEE, GOLLY, GOSH FELLAS IT'S OUT OF MY HANDS NOW"
13. HSU SAYS NOW, NOW JOE, YOU TRIED YOUR BEST AND WE'LL TELL ALL OUR MEMBERS ABOUT YOUR EFFORTS
14. HSU WILL NOW SAY "WE GAVE IT OUR BEST SHOT, KEEP PAYING THOSE UNION FEES NOW KIDS, YOU MIGHT NEED US TO FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS!"
15. BYE BYE RESCUE (AND ANY FUCKING CHANCE OF EVER GETTING ANYTHING OUT OF THE LABOR GOVT, HEALTH OR THE ASNSW)
THERE BOYS AND GIRLS ENDETH THE LESSON, IT'S CALLED POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY
AND FOR YOU RESCUE HATERS YOU ARE NOW ALL ROYALLY SCREWED BECAUSE IF HSU CAN'T MANAGE THIS LITTLE PROJECT FORGET GETTING PROFESSIONAL RATES AND OR KEEPING YOUR CALL OFF AND LATE MEALS IN THE IRC!
Well Well Well,
What a cluster fuck. How much money was squandered by this little adventure costing the taxpayer? Wasted rounds of prattle at the IRC, HSU elevating hopes with their clandestine little meetings, delegate and sub-branch meetings, gatherings with Ministers, former Ministers and the list goes on. Mind you HSU was a little "soft on" with any media involvement, I wonder why?
The Minister gave it his best shot so he says blaming the State Rescue Board. Yep it’s their entire fault. But who do they ansewer to? The Minister?….mmmmmm OK.
And as usual HSU will go along for the ride following the party line…….but it’s not our fault! it was the big bad nasty Rescue Board that made the decision.
Isn’t politics wonderful, let’s just blame someone else, we did our best, it's their fault, please fuck off and stop bothering us. Is it any wonder Management got the best deal in the recent wage case. Actually it’s no wonder at all.
Rochford has shown over the years that he likes efficient and effective administrative systems. He must be wondering to himself how come so many weirdos got involved.
SPIDER
Told you so.........Got to go now and save a life, see ya.
Serge, another 88 baggy arsed ambo uniforms please.
Please send to following stations.
Bankstown ,Point Clare, Caringbah, St IVES, Parramatta, Camden, Wollongong and Hamilton.
ASAP.
The United Services Union says the New South Wales Government has agreed to demands by ambulance phone operators for an annual 3.9 per cent pay rise over three years.
Pay negotiations stalled last month, prompting the workers to refuse to process patient transfer calls.
Union spokesman Rudi Oppitz says the Government has now agreed to the new award and it will be ratified in the Industrial Relations Commission this morning.
"The industrial action that the union members took the other week has brought the matter to a head and that's forced the offer to come to the union in a more timely manner than had our members just not taken that action," he said.
Mr Oppitz says the pay increase is well deserved.
"Our members have worked very, very hard over the last period of the agreement," he said.
"They've seen substantial change, an increase in responsibilities in their work, and the outcome was, in our eyes, a just outcome."
A JUST outcomem good union huh !!
Oh and spider, ta for agreeing, except for the Old Crazy Eyes Commercial at the end.
He was the one who got rid of Rescue in what has to be the most cowardly, underhanded and deceitful deal I have EVER seen.
But keep rooting for him, it makes me laugh!
Labour Voter (Not),
No worries Brother. Anything to keep you happy.
SPIDER
well thank fuck the rescues gone it a shame that these fools couldnt see it coming whats more its a fucken shame they couldnt put as much energy into the meals and the pay claim,
i congratulate the hsu must be the only union to fuck their members up the arse and give them a pay cut
When will you get it through your thick heads?
Softley Softley does not fucken work.
Didn't work with Pay rise
Didn't work with rescu
Will not work with meals and call off's.
Bye Bye Penalties.
Thanks piss weak HSU members.
"Serge, another 88 baggy arsed ambo uniforms please."
Hey I didn't know Serge had moved to a sweat shop in China? Anyone remember when this job was good. When we had uniforms that fit and lasted more than 2 weeks. I have a jumpsuit here that looks more like a parachute. The super in charge of the uniforms told me to hike it up and tuck it into a belt. I am serious. I am going to wear it the next time I am invited to government house for yet another medal presentation. Ahhh the good old days. When we all supported each other and love was in the air. Greg does his best but he seems to be struggling now. My new secondment to Rozelle should sort it out. I will be advising him in the future so hang in there.
Idiots !
All it would have taken was 1 hour all out on the grass and we would have had it all !!!!!
But hey dont forget to keep paying that wonderful Union of ours.
One hour? Try 10 minutes.......
The New South Wales Health Minister says he accepts the decision to keep rescue responsibilities in the hands of the Fire Brigade, but will continue looking for ways to expand the role of the state's paramedics.
John Della Bosca asked the NSW Rescue Board to review the decision made by the previous health minister, Reba Meagher, to transfer the role of Ambulance Rescue Unit's to the Fire Brigade.
Ambulance paramedics had claimed they were better equipped and trained to deal with rescues.
But seven of the eight-member board last night voted to uphold the decision.
Mr Della Bosca says he accepts the board's advice.
"The fact of the matter is a neutral umpire has made a call about the current situation and it's shown that the current situation is working," he said.
Hunter Ambulance officers say they had an assurance from the current Minister John Della Bosca that their Newcastle rescue unit would be back on the road this weekend.
Union representative Peter Rumball says the rescue board has defied a ruling of the IRC
Fourteen rescue paramedics attached to Wollongong Ambulance Station have been shattered by the lost battle to regain their accreditation.
NSW Emergency Services Minister Tony Kelly announced yesterday the State Rescue Board (SRB) had recommended against reversing a decision to transfer the NSW Ambulance Service rescue role to firefighters.
Health Services Union Illawarra spokesman Warren Goodall said his members had the support of NSW Health Minister John Della Bosca and believed the bid would be successful.
"Until Wednesday night, I thought we had it," he said.
"The Minister for Health had certainly given us that impression for the last two or three weeks."
"To say paramedics are disappointed is an extremely mild understatement."
A spokesman for Mr Kelly said the SRB made the recommendation on Thursday and the Minister had accepted that decision.
He said reasons for the decision were not tendered.
Mr Goodall said the SRB's "lack of transparency" in its decision-making process needed to be addressed.
It is going to hit the fan on Monday!!!!!. Some time next week EVERYONE will be on the grass!!!
Why is it that people only get fired up about striking when it's about losing rescue???????? Surely the big issue is proper pay and conditions!!We should have gone on the grass months ago and stayed there till we had what we deserve.
See what i mean, it's all about rescue and the rest of us can get f##ked. So what about rescue we should be more concerned about our pay increase because i sure won;t be walking for the sake of saving rescue. Who couldn't see Della Bosca sold you a dummy, he did it to the teachers as well. And just for the record the IRC has no juristiction over the SRB so the SRB did not defy any order it is all bullshit.
Get over it because my understanding is level 5 is next to go.
Yep Level 5 is set to go. Heard that today from pretty high up. No intubation, gone. Who is wearing a paramedic badge now? Yep nobody. Then after that is will be ambulance dispatchers and then privatisation.
I'd like to see that getting rid off level 5. (more industrial action) what's more they can't even organise properly the existing 15 or so levels of training we have. who is in charge of training anyway? surely they must realise that promoting clinically the more junior officers with less on-road experience was going to cause problems? dumb shits!!!
Mr Della Bosca never was in a position to promise anything.
If the HSU had done its research, it would have know that the SRB makes recommendations to the Emergency Services Minister, who then makes the decision.
The SRB is actually very transparent, and it does not have agendas like the politicians do.
The decision made was in the best interests of effective and efficent delivery of rescue services for NSW.
Time for the HSU to stop complaining and accept the umpires decision
Great commonsense decision that should of happened years ago.
Will save heaps of money as the Fire Brigade is funded 75% by the insurance companies so not much cost to the Goverment.
The Brigade already has the equipment and trucks and training.
The Health System gets more to spend in Hospitals and we have more Paramedics freed up to attend calls.
Instead of four Paramedics at a rescue (Two on tools,two treating patient) you will have two firies and two extra Ambulance Officiers at the Ambulance station ready to go to other emergancies when we need them. Well done.
the jobs fucked. just go to work earn your 50 cents and look for something better. enough beating of the chests. we're fucked.. going on the grass. left hand doesn't know what the rights doing. RIP Paramedics A/O's or what ever we're meant to be. no one cares but us.
The job's NOT fucked !
This is the greatest job in the world .... what is fucked is that so many of you have had some much faith for so long in the HSU !!
They are the ones that are fucked... and the sooner you all wake up and see that the better.
Currently there are hundreds and hundreds of angry, disapionted ambos ... itching, waiting, begging and pleeding for someone to lead them out on the GRASS ! where they all believe we should stay until we get want we deserve !!
GOD ... I only hope this Association gets up and running soon so we can organise this long overdue action !!!!!!!!!
It won't happen, because we have slowly excepted everything the service has thrown at us.
Rescue gone, increased skill levels without pay, roster changes, shit uniforms, D+D that we pay for, a shit corrupt union that we still pay into ( for what ever reason ),INCOMPETENT MANAGEMENT, we just keep getting fucked over and we keep letting them fuck us up the arse.
WHY????.
If it is true about this new association i say bring it on.
good luck with the association yo dip shits.
This will be fucking funny.
The Police are not settling for a dissmal pay increase.
The teachers are not settling for a dissmal pay increase
The Ambo's have settled for a pay cut and a loss of conditions (including rescue)
I am so proud to be on a team that doesn't do what everyone else does.
It feels good to be different don't you think?
Yeah your right, it's pathetic. Easy to understand why where being laughed at by everybody. The selfish fucks that do skill upgrades for no money, the skirt wearers that won't walk because it is immoral, sub branch union reps with hidden agendas have totally fucked any chance of a good outcome.
Call it what you will but at the end of the day it is fucking embarrasing. We might be the most trusted profession but fuck me we would have to be the most dumbest in the history of the service.
Keep paying into the union because i am sure the police will get what they want with the backing of their association.
Got a phone call from the educator the other day asking if I was going to do the morphine/dextrose upgrade or 'was I going to risk my patients welfare because of the stupid union grievances at the moment' Of course I told him to jam it. Two days later a letter arrived from the sector manager giving me some bullshit about how our patients come first blah blah etc.etc. I sent it back to him.No reply nothing just his letter. I hope he gets the message.
HEY EVERYBODY !
Dont forget to keep paying your union fees... because I hear Michael Williamson is due for another overseas holiday and urgently needs to upgrade his new mercedes !
Oh .. buy the way, I hear new cheap shopper dockets and the chance to win a weekend at sussex inlet is on the way !
How much better can it get really ?
HSU’s last ditched attempt at retaining Rescue in the Service will almost certainly fail. HSU is threatening to withdraw certain future labor party donations, to the dismay of Williamson, to achieve this goal.
This has been brought about because of the large number of ambos leaving the HSU. Actually their leaving in droves….why?….Rescue?…partly.
It’s because management got the lion share of the money out of OUR recent wage case and all the other reasons where HSU has looked after their buddies first and not looked after your average baggy arsed ambo.
SPIDER
Where did you hear this Spidey or are you making it up as usual?
Well my understanding is the rescue trucks will be removed and transported to Bankstown by the end of December.
Status Quo as we know it with rescue will cease at the end of your current roster in conjunction with the new trial rosters beginning, 4 by 4 12 hr duration shifts, which means Status Quo with current meal penalties and call off's will also cease.
Watch this space
obviously a management stooge, using the word "your" instead of "our" indicates you are not working the same roster as me. Strike action is imminent, the general ambulance officer will not put up with the gross unfairness of the new award and losing rescue to NSWFB ..pay...sick leave...rosters...lunch breaks..meal penalties etc etc!
Spider !
As usual buddy, you are spot on ... but there are still some suckers who even after all this are still paying into the managents union ???
WHAT GIVES !
What is it with these idiots... as I have said before, i reckon Michael Williamson could break into thier homes, hold them down and shit in their mouths and the money would keep flowing from their bank account to the HSU ???
Its almost like fittness first Gyms .. where nearly 50% of thier members joined a long time ago, went once and have never availed themselves of the facility since ... but they just keep paying thier monthly membership.
The only difference is that if they want to get their moneys worth they can... unlike the HSU where once you pay... there is NO SERVICE unless you are a manager or part of the old boys club !
Williamson is going to shit in our mouths? Does that make him a SCAT officer?
Oh well at least we all got the Xmas bonus yesterday seeing as we all came under the threshhold eh? Thanks Kevin Rudd for not wasting it on things like the Health System of Education or our deadly highways. A measly 10 billion won't be missed. You should have seen the lineup at my local ATM today with everyone trying their luck to see if they got some dough to spend. I had to wait for over an hour just to get my cash. Gunna go out and buy some weed and ice. That will help the economy.
pissed off! hey any one else know that health quest is an absolute joke? funded by the corrupt NSW government headed by the ultimate joke della bosca and totally geared to keep every one in a holding pattern that has a claim! The coppers system is broke and the government is broke, so who will suffer? The on road ambo's. Dead set corrruption, all the way from our union to the health quest board paid and responsible to della bosca! . Contact Jillian Skinner and tell the tail!
Re: Where did you hear this Spidey or are you making it up as usual?
Well with that statement I just want to give you all the details I can…Jerk! Are you a manager...Try asking nicely next time and I might tell you anonymouse.
To my anonymous supporter. Yep these fools are stupid alright, doughy as donuts. I can see how unaccustomed ambos might be seduced but I still listen to some senior officers blowing the HSU trumpet. Stand United!!! We are the Union!!!! blah blah blah. We on the other hand will not be intellectually crippled by their weird sheep like culture.
SPIDER
Yeah good point made on the DL emails today regarding the new special ops team ( the claytons rescue team ). Be interesting as to who puts their hand up. Will there be some that will do this for nothing? I would say so!!!.
I suppose this would just prove the point that we never learn.
Anyway who would want to be second rate to a bunch of scat officers doing all the shit work, heavy labor. Being yelled at by the likes of Parsell and co.
Fuck That.
They took away rescue to establish a team that does rescue, 4wd, tree lopping, cliff rescue etc. Please do not embarrass your selves. Tell them to jam it up their arse.
Thats right, the pricks have a way of sugar coating eveything.
I won't be applying that is for sure.
I beleive the team will be on call and as per roster and won't play a big role apart from being the pack mules to the SCAT guys.
This is all because the firies do not have the capabilities to do the work of the old rescue guys like bush work.
Be interesting to see where they will be based and they will do normal ambulance work.
To the HSU paid puppets of this world like the Bruce Tindales I also say, quit blowing your horn about Standing United!!! We are the Union, lets tell them what we want !!!! blah blah blah... then when Michael Willaimson does what the labor party tell him to do, say .... OH "" if only more people turned up to the meetings "" that would make things different !!
The game is over you idiots ... we all know that the HSU is corrupt... I heard the other day that the count of people leaving the HSU has topped 800 ????
Are the hopless pricks still getting your money ?
If so then you .... yes YOU ! are partly responsible for loading the gun of our enemy.
Bruce Tindale. Rescue. CBR technichian. MEGA LIFT! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you always were an idiot Tindale.
Sydney Morning Herald - December 11, 2008 (Extract)
Costs of dealing with injured officers have blown out., claims are increasing rapidly - and while the Police Commissioner, Andrew Scipione, vows to look after his officers, he admits the current trends in medical retirements are "unsustainable". Psychological injury - such as depression and post-traumatic stress - is the third most common, with a minority resulting from an officer being exposed to death or accidents. More than two-thirds of such cases in 2006 arose from internal matters, such as complaint handling, missing out on promotions and workloads, the report found. Future liabilities under this scheme are now estimated to be $115 million. The Government has announced a review of the police, ambulance and fire brigades schemes.
What ever happened to the 4/5 upgrade? This was promised 8+ years ago and still nothing. I know the degree guys like me got a chance but how about the rest? I suppose with the recent review of the service and it’s recommendation to reinstate Level 4 in country areas the upgrade will be canned once more.
Corporate culture and attitudes in the workplace are something that is picked up even taught by the more senior officers in the service. The service continues to shit on their veterans so they will continue to receive poor corporate culture surveys as they have over the last 10 years. I say we can blame education and the professional development unit for many of our problems. How many P1’s who want to advance clinically are just left to rot in the bush?
Maturity, wisdom, insight and experience means little to ambulance. It seems to me we are just numbers on a board.
Will they ever learn?
SPIDER
hopes are high for the secret meeting (oops) tomorrow between della bosca the hsu and john kelly for the return of rescue wonder what wil happen when mullins turns up?
Hope ICAC is watching this one. As allot of people know HSU is threatening to withdraw political donations if Rescue is not reinstated. Little deals to get their own way. this has been going on between HSU and service management for years. little deals at the expense of the baggy arsed ambo. at lest they are consistant.
I have to wonder who really has the power in NSW,you may be or not surprised just how much power Michael Williamson really has,
I was amused just how many fingers Mr Williamson has in the pie,,,more than on his hands!!!
"Director experience"
1.Secretary of the HSU,
2.Trustee of First State Super and Trustee of the Death and Disabilty.
3.Snr Vice President-ALP NSW Branch.
4.Snr Vice President-Unions NSW.
5.ACTU Executive member.
6.National President of the HSU of Australia.
7.Member of the NSW ALP,Administrive commitee.
8.Member of the NSW,ALP Industral commitee.
9.Member of the ALP National Executive commitee.
10.Member of the Australasian Mutals Institute (AMI)
11.Member of the Association of Superannuation Funds of Australia (ASFA).
12.Board Member since 2003 SGE Credit Union
" HSU Members Credit Union is a divisiion of SGE Credit Union!
And you all thought he had Aspirations to become a political puppet!
Haaaaa,he dosnt have time for that,he is far to busy sticking his greasy fingers in everything that is Labour!and our money,talk about the gravy train!!!!!
so who really has the power i ask?
Do you really think he is really concerned about about our pay,rescue,D&D,or getting rid of Rouchford!
Its time every Ambo left the Union and find another.
If you dont beleive what you are reading you to can see for yourself,just google,,,SGE Credit Union,look up board members.
I think ICAC should investigate this very Conflick of Interest.
Central Coast Ambo.
Oh.. Oh.. Oh !!
Stand together ! ... we are the union ! ... stand united ... Blah Blah Blah !!!
Meanwhile Willaimson is bourding a plane on holiday to the Bahamas, Tindale by the way is parking his new mercedes for him and some soft cock deligate from the North is carrying his bags !
As if he gives a " FLYING FUCK " about any of us. We have been taken for a ride for so long now, its almost second nature to just accept it !!
We need out of this corrupt union... not just some of us ( ALL OF US !!! ) and not next week or after the xmas break... but NOW ... RIGHT NOW !
Anyone reading this blog needs to make sure that everyone you know is aware of how currupt this mob is and the only way you can get to people like Williamson is to withdraw his funding !! he dosen't care if we dont like him, he doesn't care if we are angry .. he dosen't care if we dont get what we deserve and he dosen't care if we suffer !!!
BUT WHAT HE DOES CARE ABOUT ... IS THAT WE KEEP FUNDING HIS POLITICAL CAREER ... because without OUR money... he is nothing !!
Now stop being angry and do everything you can to cut off his personal little GRAVY TRAIN !!
That means you and everyone you know pulling out TODAY !!!
And for those of you who think that if you do, you will have no protection... WAKE UP !!! You have no protection now... the HSU have never EVER represented a baggy arsed ambo against a uniformed manager and if you have to go to court against a grievence, they will not pay for your legal representation either !
If you do not believe that, then check thier terms.
Time to show that clown the door....
ARE YOU WITH ME ??
Training converted into real life event
12/12/2008 3:58:00 PM
Less than 24 hours after rescue training, local ambulance officers faced a real life situation recently after a motor vehicle accident on the Young Road.
Although a regular monthly event, the timing of the latest training and its proximity to responding to a road crash came just as Health minister John Della Bosca announced he will reverse a decision and hand back metropolitan rescue services to the ambulance service from the NSW Fire brigade.
Cowra Station officer Matt Kitchingman said rescue operations were an important part of his, and his officers’ service.
can anyone confirm the last post? or is Cowra up to weird shit again.
It's sounds good but Dear John has no say in whether rescue comes back or not. There closing ED wards at Ryde, Mount Druitt, Manly and Mona Vale because they have no money, but they will invest millions of dollars into a service the Health Dept cannot afford, i think not. These rescue guys have got to stop being so damn selfish and just let it go. That money could be put else where and that is what the ASNSW is doining and rightly so.
So come on do gooders give it to me, though the truth obviously hurts.
Finally someone has made some sense.
I would like to know where you get your info from, heard the same.
Hate to be working on the beaches.
Anyway as i said you are so right,
if these selfish pricks put half as much effort into a decent pay other Ambos might get on side with them but it has always been about them. If rescue comes back mark my words they won't blink an eyelid nor feel sorry for you when your on your sixth job and in bedblock at 2am. This is about their life style, doing nothing, just how they like it.
The Health system is rooted and we can't get a decent pay rise but hey who gives a fuck as long as rescue comes back.
Yeah fuck you lot as long as I get a good nights sleep that's all that matters.
Its typical you know,small minority groups always win,e.g rescue.
It effects around 80 people in an organisation of around 3000!
why do we let the minority groups get ahead of the real issues,e.g PAY and CONDITIONS!
it happens because rescue is not abig expence,it happens because it makes it appear to the public that a service is going and the public will be put at risk.
The public dont really care if you get paid,or if conditions are bad,only that they may not have a svc provided to them free of charge in most cases.
As for the HSU it will look like abig win for them if thay are seen to be getting it back for the public.
It will also make Della Bosca look good in his new portfolio,and that he cares about the public.
Time for you idiots to wake up and play the game.80% of your delegates are rescue,So what you do,,,,,, Is get rid of them and vote in Officers who are there for better pay and conditions.
If you all havent work this out then well its far to late iam afraid.
you are all better to leave the HSU.
The writing has been on the wall for too many years,and you all cant read i guess!!!!!!!!!
If I can see this and Iam only a relative to an Ambo.how come you Ambos cant see this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rescue is not back. The story posted here is wrong!!!!.
Williamsom was unable to Bribe Della Bosca and Kelly with the withdrawal of political donations from HSU.
Michael I guess it's back to bagging Rochford. Same old same old.
SPIDER
Re - Rescue Lover,
Ouch!!!!!!
Good to know that your awake as well.
Is that the phone?
Get use to it, you fuckin beauty.
OH HOW TRUE ====>
Anyone reading this blog needs to make sure that everyone you know is aware of how currupt this mob is and the only way you can get to people like Williamson is to withdraw his funding !! he dosen't care if we dont like him, he doesn't care if we are angry .. he dosen't care if we dont get what we deserve and he dosen't care if we suffer !!!
BUT WHAT HE DOES CARE ABOUT ... IS THAT WE KEEP FUNDING HIS POLITICAL CAREER ... because without OUR money... he is nothing !!
I frequently look at the remarks on this blog and ponder why so many of us are so bitter and twisted. I guess it comes down to distrust, years of abuse, lies and mismanagement. For me it started when I joined the job and I saw how corrupt and nepotistic the “brothers” were. Promoting their own, ostracizing those who spoke out, I was one. I’ve certainly seen the dark side in human nature since I joined over twenty years ago. Those who abuse power to feed their egos because of their own lack of self-esteem like P.A.P. I have seen patients die because of the ignorance and incompetence of education to acknowledge skills or insure there is adequate expertise in the bush. Again, I have seen patients die because of it. I have seen sub-branch delegates exploit and manipulate the system to advance their our careers and their reputation and status in the eyes of management. Again, I have seen patients die because of it. I have seen management manipulate our sub-branch delegates to promote their own agendas and aim criticism at every CEO we have had over the last twenty years to take focus away from their own incompetence. So if you read this blog and think we are bitter and twisted your absolutely right.
SPIDER
We don't fund Williamson he still has the hospital cleaners and others to keep him comfortable. We were only ever a nuisance to him anyway. Tell you one thing though I still won't need to get used to answering the phone. I will be in the new Special Operations now with my own truck repainted and full of great toys to play with while you coolies get out there and do what you do best and that is hump oldies and stand in long lines at hospitals.
I wasn't going to bite but i needed to tell you that you need to give yourself an uppercut.
Here you go again all about you and the hard done by rescue guys who have been given a little sniff of something that just might get you out of doing the work like the rest of us baggy arsed ambo's.
Fuck me and you want sympathy you dumb cunt.
You are not getting new trucks or even a role that you are going to be paid to do, there will be no skinners like you are hoping, but yes you will be in an ambulance humping the poor simpletens who think they need to go to hospital.
The only thing you will be getting is a baggy arsed uniform made in china like the rest of us.
SO GO AND GET FUCKED.
PS. TAKE ALL THE EXCESS TYRE BLACK HOME AND PAINT THE TYRES ON YOUR BILLY CART.
Oh and PSS. I think its long over due for another SICKIE AND CERAPAX don't you think.
Rescue Hater you idiot. Of course you were always going to bite. The funny thing is you can't help yourself and you know I am not even a rescue person but am one of the brothers that spider hates so much. Yes there are plenty of us left and in fact one works right alongside Rochford right now so so much for him getting rid of them all and he will jump right into Willis' spot when he leaves and he will be leaving soon. It is so easy to get a bite out of people like you that is why you and your type are in such a mess and why us managers are getting all the perks. I am not going to give myself an uppercut. Only thing I will be giving myself is my payrise. Sucker,
isn't that funny because i am not even an ambo myself, funny though because i also got a pay rise my friend.
Mind games, mind games and more mind games.
I hope the majority of fools who go out of their way to shit stir each other submitting the drivel that is currently being put on this blog sight are not Ambo's.
I think it is long over due for the Real Ambo to start monitoring this blog site and restrict some of the content.
This is not directed at PAP OR SPIDER because at least you both put forward some constructive points of view.
Some Common sense Please,
Thankyou for the endorsement, just a shame you considered P.A.P to have the same ethical code. I never did like elitists and I never will. Some of the toughest men and women I know come across as just humble and kind. They have nothing to prove. I read the recent newspaper article in relation to a cliff rescue accomplished by Paul Kernick. I once new Paul well, he is one of these people. He is a credit to himself and this service.
As for some of the comments you speak of on this blog, I think it is just frustrated ambos venting. Better to do that than beat the wife and kids if you know what I mean. This frustration may even be related to circumstances where they have been obstructed from achieving their own career goals. Who knows? Our managers need to learn to respond in ways that don’t intensify these frustrations.
How about a defined career path…. That might help!
SPIDER
You have all missed the big picture,Williamson is the one holding you all back,yet you still fund his world,,,,why?
are you all so thick?
or are you all living in fairy land that he just might,just might help you.
wake up and smell the roses.He is never ever going to help any of you.
far out you people are such idiots,i cant believe you would fight for a truck,yet not fight for your wages,conditions.
Warrem Boon,you are a has been,time to grow up,our primary role is Ambulance,not Rescue.
Get over it!!!!!!
I agree .... This is what you idiots need to bare in mind ====>
I have to wonder who really has the power in NSW,you may be or not surprised just how much power Michael Williamson really has,
I was amused just how many fingers Mr Williamson has in the pie,,,more than on his hands!!!
"Director experience"
1.Secretary of the HSU,
2.Trustee of First State Super and Trustee of the Death and Disabilty.
3.Snr Vice President-ALP NSW Branch.
4.Snr Vice President-Unions NSW.
5.ACTU Executive member.
6.National President of the HSU of Australia.
7.Member of the NSW ALP,Administrive commitee.
8.Member of the NSW,ALP Industral commitee.
9.Member of the ALP National Executive commitee.
10.Member of the Australasian Mutals Institute (AMI)
11.Member of the Association of Superannuation Funds of Australia (ASFA).
12.Board Member since 2003 SGE Credit Union
" HSU Members Credit Union is a divisiion of SGE Credit Union!
And you all thought he had Aspirations to become a political puppet!
Haaaaa,he dosnt have time for that,he is far to busy sticking his greasy fingers in everything that is Labour!and our money,talk about the gravy train!!!!!
so who really has the power i ask?
Do you really think he is really concerned about about our pay,rescue,D&D,or getting rid of Rouchford!
Its time every Ambo left the Union and find another.
If you dont beleive what you are reading you to can see for yourself,just google,,,SGE Credit Union,look up board members.
I think ICAC should investigate this very Conflick of Interest.
Warren Boon a has been more like a never was. Another failed ex copper who thought this job would be a bludge but now knows he has to go out and work again for a living.
Real Ambo has gone. This blog is like a rudderless ship with all the crew having been thrown overboard. Nobody is running it.
Gerry Green,
you are fucked. Warren does an exceptional amount of work for us. Even if I dont always agree with him. You are wrong to have any questions about his commitment to our working conditions. Pull your head in mate!
The NLRA excludes supervisors from union coverage. This exception provides important balance in the workplace. It ensures that supervisors do not have divided loyalties. It also protects employees from retaliation from their supervisors if they stand up to their union.
Whats happened with our pay and meal penalty's?
When this fucken HSU going to fill its members in?
My delegates know fucken nothing, and they get the run around from pitt street when they ask.
Is this it?
Is what we got FINAL?
You can all get fucked!
fuck you all,
…….all of our cards where marked in advance the wage case was fixed we didn’t have a chance.
You need to get involved with your D/O’s and above to get any real credible information about your allowances. Unfortunately they have the “clout” in our union heirachy and what’s more they also have the clout in the service heirachy. So you are well and truly screwed. But ask them anyway to see what they know.
Isn’t it just astonishing how for the last 3 years we try to persuade management that we are worth more money and when the money is finally dished out management get most of it. What’s really fascinating is that they used our union to get it. How bizarre!!!
The allowances for 4 and 5 are gone. That also means no money for future skill enhancements based on this premise.
Who do we turn to….HSU? Well management who made these decisions are paying HSU members like you and pretty much run the whole show. We are at the bottom of the pile and will stay there until someone does something about this obvious conflict of interest.
What's more under this corrupt system you have no chance of survival if you are being harrased by management.
It really does my head in sometimes when I think about it. Time for another beer.
SPIDER
A duty to care
The media have recently highlighted the opening of a Parliamentary enquiry into the culture of bullying in the NSW Ambulance Service. So bad has this apparently been over the past two years, that five officers have committed suicide.
The enquiries’ chairperson has received according to the report, over one hundred submissions regarding bullying by officers.
It appears the officers’ requests for help ‘fell on deaf ears’.
Most employers are unaware that their Duty of Care obligation extends to ensuring that no employee suffers harm as a result of for example, being bullied at the workplace.
Bullying is rapidly becoming a major cause of Workers Compensation stress claims by employees. What employers are grossly unaware of is that contributory negligence may play a significant role in such claims. This may occur where co-workers are involved in bullying tactics against a fellow worker.
Bravo Spider, for once some one has told it like it is. It is true we screwed our selves firstly by giving up allowances for trade off's and doing skill upgrades for nothing. We are the only people ( us fabulous, honest Ambo's ) who have allowed this to happen.
The Police and Firies get paid for every skill level they complete and have strong industrial backing from both prospective associations/unions. We on the other hand have this un-divided faith that our so called union mind you who we pay to represent us have grossly neglected our submissions. They on the other hand as Spider stated got our fabulous management a major increase, funny that.
What will be interesting is what will come of the level 4 and 5's.
Is this an indication they will be phased out.
Good call, Spider.
Some common sense please,
Re: What will be interesting is what will come of the level 4 and 5's. Is this an indication they will be phased out.
Your guess is as good as mine. At the moment most of the focus and service resources will be used to try and pacify our friends in rescue. Crisis management as usual. I don’t know the in’s and outs of why rescue was disbanded however officers should have been given more notice of the service’s intentions including advice of their future career prospects.
Part of the arrangement of introducing P1 was that all Level 4 officers be given the opportunity to upgrade to Level 5. This “promise” was made by Steve Whinfield back in 2001, nearly eight years ago. The degree people have had their opportunity but not the rest. Another lie that has pissed off allot of very senior ambos.
So there you have it……. 88 rather annoyed rescue officers, and over 300 very pissed off Level 4 officers. I wonder what the next Corporate Culture survey will be like.
I’ve always been a big supporter of Greg Rochford but I think he has taken advice from allot of people with absolutely no idea, especially those nitwits in Education and the Professional Development.
My guess Rochford will jump ship sometime next year.
SPIDER
I wonder if Level 5 will be phased out?....derrrrr! Look at the history of level 5 and work it out for yourself. We came in with a bang in 1976 and for a long time had all the skills and procedures while the GD's (our term) had none. We never had to wear our caps or ties while the GD's were forced to and give me a report why you aren't. We couldn't possibly wear ours because we had special treatment to do to our patients that the rest of the ambo's couldn't do. We were allowed to stay on station and only attend emergencies. No renals for us or routine cases and please don't wake us up when you leave. Then suddenly the Rural Ambo's wanted more skills and Level 4 was born. Wow. What the?? Fancy letting non Paramedics do some of our skills. Hell they might even make things worse for the patient! How dare they. Then the city brothers decided hey that's not a bad idea and they got level 3. The original one. Then as the work increased some controllers decided it would be a good idea to get us lazy Level 5's off our arse and get us out doing "Green Labels" That can't hurt surely and we had no choice but to abide. Then it became a routine for us to to go out and do other GD work Co-Ords excuse being they didn't have enough cars. Gee even putting in a written complaint to the paramedic office didn't help like it used to..In the meantime everyone else's skills were increasing and the levels were getting closer but alas we still had intubation and that made us better than everyone else. Oh my God all of a sudden they are giving some funny airway thing to the GD's and we are starting to feel threatened. Mind you the SCAT Paramedics were the elite by then anyway run by George Smith and his cronies. Anyone at Thredbo can tell tales of how SCAT got well and truly looked after down there while the rest of us were ignored by everyone including our own so called bosses. Sniff sniff but I used to be the elite once....Fast track to today and there is no such thing as an Intensive Care Ambulance or a Frog Crew anymore there are only ambulances and we all do the same work. Next car out for a job. And people you think they are not going to level the playing field. The skills are closer, the money is closer (we lost some) and we all wear Paramedic on our shoulders (the general public don't give a shit if it says Intensive Care or is silver gold or blue we only have Intensive Care on there to appease ourselves to try and make us feel a little bit better than everyone else and that is why we hate the rescue boys and girls so much because for so long they have been doing what we used to be ale to do when Level 5 used to mean something and that was lie on the station all day and do nothing. Yep pure jealousy is all it is. That is fact. Yeah who cares if the lazy bastards lose rescue they will have to work like the rest of us I hear you say. Well I remember a time when the GD's thought the same way about Level 5 Paramedics. Rest assured Level 4 has gone now and Level 5 is next and forget about what Steve Whinfield said. He is past history and what he said means nothing now. Hell you don't even need to be a Level 5 to be a rapid responder anymore. How did Normie let that one through. Not like him to let that happen. That must have come from above. Soon it will be the same for the bikes. Morphine for GD's? I remember when you weren't even allowed to look at it let alone inject it....It is coming boys and girls it is coming.
Hey Williamson ..... Wheres all the money going ???? ICAC have been notified of your dealings, so better get preparing some balance sheets ..... !
You know what they say " you can fool some of the people for some of the time, but you cant fool all of the people all of the time"
Your time is up buddy.... start clearing out your desk... I reckon it will take them about a year to start the enquiry and about four weeks to find out about all the corrupt dealings of the HSU ...
I hear you can go to jail for some things... is that right Michael ???
Anonymous,
An interesting read. Things have certainly changed all right. I remember when I started in Sydney all those years ago Level 5’s were considered the most matured and experienced officers in the Service. They were seasoned veterans who had seen and done it all. Everyone respected them; their word was gospel. I was taught so much from them in those days it wasn’t funny, stuff they don’t write done in books. Their dress and bearing were almost always impeccable, as were their vehicles. They set a real example for the rest of us “blue boys”.
Now they just churn frogs out like cheap chocolate. It’s all about bums on seats…..bums being the operative word for some of the nitwits they have given a frog badge to. I’m not saying all are bad, but there is a hell of allot of them out there that could do with a hell of allot more experience.
The system is set up in such a way years of service and experience means very little. Now days you do well in an exam and an interview with a few pleasing pieces of paper and your in.
Yep…..That’s what it’s all been boiled down to. The true value of our position in the service. One exam, one interview and a few pieces of paper.
It’s just very sad when you think about it.
SPIDER
It IS sad Spider and I have level 2's here with less than 2 years service look me in the eye and tell me they are as experienced as anyone and they believe it. Is that what the school tells them? The current service is a sad joke compared to what it once was and you are dead right. The frogs of old were looked up to. I know Level 5''s who have never passed an exam who turned on the tears and yelled discrimination at the mention of failing. They are out there. That is probably why they removed Level 5 badges because they know people out there have never really earned them. I am just glad I can see light at the end of the tunnel. I just pray it isn't a train.
Anonymous,
Re: Is that what the school tells them?
Probably. I never did like that place. Too many there trying to make a big impression and forgetting about the basics. How many levels of training do we have now? I’ve lost count. It seems ever year the wheel is redesigned.
The parliamentary inquiry identified the possible need to reintroduce Level 4’s in the bush. P1’s are doing just as much as a Level 4 ever did but without any sort of allowance. That problem could be solved with an Atropine and Lasix package (CD ROM) and their you have it, Level 4’s in the bush but called P1. Don’t doubt that they won’t do it.
The thing that really sucks is that our union has put up little or no resistance to all of the recent changes. They have followed management’s line.
HSU has a power base in management because management are paying members in HSU like us.
They have all the clout and power and we get to have a CD ROM package.
SPIDER
Anonymous
RE: THAT WHAT THE SCHOOL TELLS THEM.
You are so right. The current 1's and 2's, not all, have a sense of arrogance about them.
The majority are CSU trained who come into this job without a lot of life experience but with a certificate deemed competent to a clinical level of P1.
Yet cannot get down the basics regarding the AMPRAC.
What happened to the humble probies who were keen to learn and listen, and who once aspired to be a level 5.
Now we have 1's and 2's with attitudes as big as the harbour bridge who feel they are above all that.
This is the generation the service is targeting to change the culture of the service. These ambo's are the ones keen to be a pseudo level 5 as quickly as possible and watch out if you get in my way.
This is why also we do not have the numbers at union meetings.
we don't get numbers at union meetings because ambos are sick of hearing bullshit.
I wonder how much money we will lose in the next award discussions?
I'm hearing you brother!!!!Couldn't have put it better myself. HSU are a joke.
HSU have been quiet lately, no attacks against the service or Rochford. maybe their labour party minders have told them to shut up. HSU Head office in Sydney can't help me with any info at all about Rescue or the concerns we all have about our wage claim, such as meal penalties and call offs. shouldn't they know? maybe they think we will forget about it all over the Xmas period.
Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!
We have already forgotten about it. Our goose is cooked. As one boss said 'they meaning us will get over it and it will all blow over" I feel he is right. We needed to strike while the iron was hot and I mean strike as in walk off the job. It would take just 15 minutes for the govt to know we are serious. We ar screwed sideways folks. We all talk about what a shit union the HSU is but that is all it is...talk. I bet most of you are still paying into it in case we need them. Need them for what? They don't represent us anymore. You get in the shit you would be better off taking a solicitoe in with the you. The service hates them becuse they aren';t on their side. There is one officer currently who has been under suspension for 7 months over a bullshit complaint. Ask him what the union is doing for him. SFA.
Due to the current financial situation caused by the slowdown of economy, Management has decided to implement a scheme to put workers of 40 years of age and above on early retirement. This scheme will be known as RAPE (Retire Aged People Early).Persons selected to be RAPED can apply to management to be eligible for the SHAFT scheme (Special Help After Forced Termination). Persons who have been RAPED and SHAFTED will be reviewed under the SCREW program (Scheme Covering Retired Early Workers). A person may be RAPED once, SHAFTED twice and SCREWED as many times as Management deems appropriate. Persons who have been RAPED can only get AIDS (Additional Income for Dependants & Spouse) or HERPES (Half Earnings for Retired Personnel Early Severance). Obviously persons who have AIDS or HERPES will not be SHAFTED or SCREWED any further by Management.
Persons who are not RAPED and are staying on will receive as much SHIT (Special High Intensity Training) as possible. Management has always prided itself on the amount of SHIT it gives employees. Should you feel that you do not receive enough SHIT, please bring to the attention of your Supervisor. They have been trained to give you all the SHIT you can handle.
Merry Christmas Everyone!!!
SPIDER
Good one Spider but seriously I wish the fuck they would give those of us with 25 plus years service early retirement and leave this shitful mess to the younger ones to sort out. I have had enough of their fucking games.
Anonymous,
I feel like that sometimes too. Something has got to give. There are too many of us that are angry for the storm to end and the numbers are increasing.
There are also too many of us, with too many years of service, and too many years of service left to sweep this under the carpet.
It’s only a matter of time before our corrupt union and it’s interaction with our senior management is exposed for what it is, Corrupt. An obvious and blatant conflict of interest in any persons eyes.
It's surprising how many new officers don't know that uniformed management are in HSU with us. There needs to be a strict divide between the interests of management and the interests of the rank and file.
Be proud of being part of the most trusted profession. These tricksters hide behind our good name and abuse the privilege of our trust. Politically motivated power hungry crooks looking after themselves at our expense.
Keep the faith my friend.
SPIDER
Good luck to you all ?
“Ambulance Service of NSW Paramedics are demanding transparent and fully reported political party funding and disclosure from the Health Services Union. Paramedics disquiet concerning perceived overt and covert links between donations to the Labour Party, and their resulting policies and actions, continues to be very high. Paramedics believe that political parties should be legally required to provide explicit details of the true sources of their donations and the destinations of their expenditure”.
“A spokesperson for the NSW Paramedics stated if donors have no intention of buying political favours for their donations, they will not be dissuaded by an open and transparent scheme. Political parties have a huge impact on public life and the nation as a whole - they are not the same as private sector bodies; the privacy considerations of the donor must be subordinate to the wider public interest in preventing corruption; if donors have no intention of buying political favours for their donations, they will not be dissuaded by an open and transparent scheme.”
Hopefully this will be published soon.
Good luck with that.
I have written to the HSU many times asking for accounts of expenditure.
When I ring them all I get is an offer for a discounted rate for some Cabins in Suspect inlet or somewhere.
What's with these fucken Cabins?
I just want to know where the money is going and what wage Williamson draws for punching our port holes!
Apologies this is the correct version,
“Ambulance Service of NSW Paramedics are demanding transparent and fully reported political party funding and disclosure from the Health Services Union. Paramedics disquiet concerning perceived overt and covert links between donations to the Labour Party, and their resulting policies and actions, continues to be very high. Paramedics believe that political parties should be legally required to provide explicit details of the true sources of their donations and the destinations of their expenditure”.
“A spokesperson for the NSW Paramedics stated if donors have no intention of buying political favours for their donations, they will not be dissuaded by an open and transparent scheme. Political parties have a huge impact on public life and the nation as a whole - they are not the same as private sector bodies; the privacy considerations of the donor must be subordinate to the wider public interest in preventing corruption".
I too have contacted the HSU on numerous occasions enquiring where our money is going and have been told that i will be called back, but they never do !!
On one occasion i managed to get put through to Williamson, who was more interested in why i wanted to know than in explaining... and just by chance... we got cut off and i was unbale to get in contact with him again.
His sec said he would ring me back, but he never did.
I consequently resigned from the HSU and was contacted about a month later and asked why .... when i explained my conversation with Willaimson this call was also abruptly cut off and nobody ever called me back ???
It is very obvious to me that ALL the money this man is getting from ambos is going directly to the labor party !!
I went off at my sub-branch meeting an stated that I didn’t think HSU was doing enough to help us because management was shitting on us and they were doing nothing . More skills etc with no extra pay. It seems I have been branded a trouble maker for speaking out. Now even the D/O’s in my area have changed their tone and attitude towards me. I’m now pulled into sector office for the most minor thing. One D/O called me a lose cannon and indicated I should start becoming be a team player. I asked him to expalin why he thought that and he changed the subject. I’m fucked if I want to compalin about harrasment because he is paying into HSU like me, he is also a manager. Who’s side do you think they will take? 2 officers in my area have also put in harrasment claims through HSU who referred it off to their solicitors McClellands nearly 2 years ago. Their claims were about the same officer. Everytime they ring McClellands they are told we are working on it. The service has also just fobbed them off. What chance do we have when all the cards in the deck are stacked against us.
Then you need to convince EVERY single person you come accross during the course of your day to stop paying into that corrupt fund !!! and i mean everyone !
Anonymous,
Certainly a tragic story anonymous but it doesn’t surprise me at all. As you say how can you win when your boss is supported by your own union. I recommend you keep a diary with comments etc. I don’t know what else you can do sorry.
Getting off the subject, has anyone ever noticed that the HSU has never made any sort of comment regarding bullying and harassment in the service. How odd is that, strange you might say?. Why wouldn’t the HSU make any sort of comment when this problem was identified by a multitude of officers during the recent parliamentary inquiry?. Bullying and Harassment by management and the HSU have no comment?
Well it’s obvious apart from the Executive just about every other manager in the service is a financial paying member of the HSU.
Silly me.
SPIDER
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Went to respectful workplace training the other day .... Well the guy running the course means well and i believe he really thinks that his little chat can help .... but alas he knows nothing of the brotherhood and the management run HSU who have been bullying ambos from the day dot ... and will continue to do so until Willaimson and his corrupt little group are given thier marching orders !
Wake up people ... if we had a real union, our lives would be SOOOOOOOO much better and bullying and harrasment would be a thing of the past.
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Sorry but I keep checking in and nothing is happening there.
I have to wonder who really has the power in NSW,you may be or not surprised just how much power Michael Williamson really has,
I was amused just how many fingers Mr Williamson has in the pie,,,more than on his hands!!!
"Director experience"
1.Secretary of the HSU,
2.Trustee of First State Super and Trustee of the Death and Disabilty.
3.Snr Vice President-ALP NSW Branch.
4.Snr Vice President-Unions NSW.
5.ACTU Executive member.
6.National President of the HSU of Australia.
7.Member of the NSW ALP,Administrive commitee.
8.Member of the NSW,ALP Industral commitee.
9.Member of the ALP National Executive commitee.
10.Member of the Australasian Mutals Institute (AMI)
11.Member of the Association of Superannuation Funds of Australia (ASFA).
12.Board Member since 2003 SGE Credit Union
" HSU Members Credit Union is a divisiion of SGE Credit Union!
And you all thought he had Aspirations to become a political puppet!
Haaaaa,he dosnt have time for that,he is far to busy sticking his greasy fingers in everything that is Labour!and our money,talk about the gravy train!!!!!
so who really has the power i ask?
Do you really think he is really concerned about about our pay,rescue,D&D,or getting rid of Rouchford!
Its time every Ambo left the Union and find another.
If you dont beleive what you are reading you to can see for yourself,just google,,,SGE Credit Union,look up board members.
I think ICAC should investigate this very Conflick of Interest.
Reading the above, what is it going to take for the rest of you to grow a back bone and dump this mob once and for all !
And if you are worried about not having anything to go to, just remember that you dont have anything now.... in fact by paying into the HSU you are in fact increasing the chances of getting the boot if you do fuck up !!!
FACT : NOT ONE SINGLE OFFICER HAS EVER .... IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE HSU .... EVER BEEN REPRESENTED AGAINST A UNIFORMED MANAGER IN A DESPUTE !!! and they are not getting anything else for us are they ????
You are already on your own, so why not give yourself a nice little xmas present.... leave the HSU and get a $500 a year gift from yourself !
Hi I would like to thank who ever is repeating my blog i placed on this site some 4 weeks ago.(Dec 24 10:02)
I dont know how to do this little trick but if you can place this blog onto the new "Paramedc site" that would be great.
It took me awhile to type that out,but it should be made very clear,infact clear as bloody crystal,what Williamson is really up too.
thanks again,,, keep repeating it.
wife of Ambo.CC
Management don't belong in a Paramedic's union. They are management, and we are the labour.
How can both parties be represented by the same union when management enforces rules and dictates policy?
But what is most important is that management got the big payrise with the assistance of the HSU (that’s our union right?).
As injustice piles on injustice, as inquiry after inquiry doesn’t come up with any real answers, as the immoral corrupt relationship between HSU and uniformed management flourishes, we will be forced to rely on ourselves.
I think I saw Williamson at the Sussex inlet cabins eating a Roast Turkey Dinner with lashings of Gravy.
I asked him why so much gravy and he said he owned a gravy train!
What did he mean?
Whats a gravy train?,
That’s easy, Williamson and the HSU receive excessive and unjustified money from us baggy arsed ambos with little or no effort while yielding considerable profit. How’s that!
An interesting read from anonymous who stated, “NOT ONE SINGLE OFFICER HAS EVER .... IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE HSU .... EVER BEEN REPRESENTED AGAINST A UNIFORMED MANAGER IN A DESPUTE !!!”. It would be interesting to unearth allot of other interesting facts from the HSU as well.
I was talking with my accountant the other day who indicated that if the HSU were in fact donating part of an ambos union contributions to a political party then that amount of money should be disclosed. Why? Because political donations are a tax deduction. That’s right, not only do ambos pay for sub-standard industrial representation but they also contribute part of their union fees to provide the HSU with a tax break while missing out themselves.
That’s about as dodgey as it gets. How about some disclosure Williamson so your members can claim the tax break or do you what it all?
SPIDER
I am proud to say that after 29 years in the union I gave myself a Christmas present today and resigned from it. $500 a year extra in my pocket. I only wish I had invested the money I have spent on union fees over the last 29 years into a managed fund. I could probably retire early if I had.
http://www.democrats.org.au/docs/
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The right of all shareholders to ask questions and demand accountability about political donations is fundamental to proper corporate governance principles. Although some companies disclose the size and recipients of political donations in their annual reports, there is no legal requirement to do so. The same requirement should be made of unions and other organisations.
Merry Christmas and A Happy New you greedy, incompetent and spineless cunts.
Merry Christmas Idiot,
Go home to your family if you still have one.
Probably sold them for a blow job.
To the above anonymous .... you are obviously a manager of high powered HSU rep ... mind you it is more than likely you are both !
Go get a life you fowel mouthed gutter pig !
TOP TEN REASONS IT’s GOOD TO BE IN THE SAME UNION AS YOUR BOSS
10. When you finally get promoted into management you don’t have to change your direct debit details to pay union fees. How convienient.
9. You and your boss can share the same union newsletter.
8. You and your boss don’t ever have to worry about taking responsibility for anything because at the end of the day you can always blame the Executive.
7. You and your boss have a common interest you can both talk about. It helps break the ice.
6. Convincing others into believing that being in the same union as your boss will help with a wage claim. Wrong!
5. Never having to worry about getting representation from HSU when it is about a “conflict of interest” issue.
4. You and your boss can both holiday together at HSU’s holiday accommodation at Sussex Inlet.
3. You sit down with your boss to discuss a grievance you have about another manager and you always come to the conclusion it’s the CEO’s fault.
2. Fooling new ambos into believing that management really is in another union. Now that’s a fun game!
And the number 1 reason is…drum roll,
1. Getting together at JCC meeting with your boss where you both get the chance to talk about what a prick the CEO is.
SPIDER
Things that all country ambos are ;
(1) Lazy,
(2) Incompetent,
(3) Spineless.
BUt they bound by a common demonitor: They are all rich!!!
What did they give up in the last round of Award negotiations?
FUCK ALL...!
City ambos are;
(1) Hard working,
(2) Kind,
(3) GREAT ambos,
(4) Handsome/beautiful,
(5) Higher skilled, and
(6) Neater dressed.
And are now poorer because of the fucking leaches in the bush...!
Yeah yeah and fucking yeah...I know you do on call and get paid 0.20c per hour on call and all of that bullshit.
But you can wear ONE shirt for your whole roster period. Its because you don't do any work.
What a fucking pay packet - its higher that Rochford's and he's a fucking thief.
JOKE: What's faster than a speeding train??
ANSWER: No not Superman...Its bush ambo clearing a scene/hospital to get home to get his four our call out and not an extension...!
JOKE: When does a country ambo implement the urgent transport protocol?
ANSWER: When its time to clock off so they can clear for their next lot of on call...!
JOKE: When is the only tiem that a country ambo needs assistance??
ANSWER: Its when their "mate" is home on call on a day off with a nudge and a wink...!
JOKE: When does a country ambo need more staff???
ANSWER: NEVER because it will cut their call outs...!
You lot me me sick.
"Proud to be a city ambo 'cause I work for a living."
That would have to be one of the strangest posts for a while on this blog, and that is really saying something.
City V Country ambos? How intense!What will it be next dipshit ,Blue V Green eyes? Short V Tall?
I'm sure if you put your mind to it you could do much better.
Is Williamson in Goal yet?
Does ICAC really Care?
Are you voting for Labour at the next election?
Are we getting a payrise Soon?
How can a country ambo be rich if he doesn;t get called out from home all the time to do the work in the first place. I have worked both country and city and country the reason I am back in the city is because I could not handle the long hours working in the country provides. Go to work Monday and work all day and into the night go home on call and not get a day off until the next Monday if I was lucky. Always being called at home on or off duty and everyone in the town thinking they owned me 24/7. Nope not in your life. I take my hat of to you people out there.
Dumb Ambo,
Is Williamson in Goal yet?
I think you mean Jail. No, but they have a room booked for him.
Does ICAC really Care?
No. They answer to Williamson's mates in the Labour party.
Are you voting for Labour at the next election?
Of course unions are affiliated with the Labour party. Look how well we did with our wage case. Doh!!!!
Are we getting a payrise Soon?
If we do you can bet your socks management will do better.
SPIDER
There will be no payrises. In this current economic climate you are lucky to have a job. Be happy you still get a wage at all. The only pay rise you will get is the one you give yourself by resigning from the very inept and corrupt labour run HSU.
ICAC has defined conflict of interest in the following terms, based on the OECD (Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development) definition:
‘A conflict of interest involves a conflict between the public duty and private interests of a public official, in which the public official has private interests which could improperly influence the performance of their official duties and responsibilities' (OECD guidelines, 2003, para10).
You don't spell jail like that in this country.
Its gaol
You are correct my apologies.
A spokesman for the NSW Ambulance Service said the first woman, a 21-year-old with a history of brief labour, had been at a "severe risk" of giving birth in the ambulance. She was accompanied by a midwife from Blue Mountains Hospital for the 45-minute trip to Penrith but paramedics had to pull over halfway into the journey to help deliver the baby.
"We only get rudimentary training when it comes to delivering babies," one paramedic said yesterday.
"Basically, we can catch the ones that fall out, but that's all. Think of the distance involved [between Blue Mountains Hospital in Katoomba and RPA in Camperdown] when you have an urgent case of a woman in the late stages of labour. A premature labour is a good reason to transfer the patient to a better resourced facility, [but] RPA?"
In October, the Herald reported a woman gave birth in the back of an ambulance on the Great Western Highway at Glenbrook after being turned away from Blue Mountains Hospital due to staff shortages. Paramedics had not wanted to transfer her to Nepean because her labour was too advanced.
Didn't take long for a few soft cock p1s in the north to start using IV morphine without any allowance !!!
Oh and the new rosters start officaially in march... and that is when all call offs and late meals are gone !!
Well done HSU.... but i hear Willaimson had a nice holiday and thinks we have all done really well !
Re: Didn't take long for a few soft cock p1s in the north to start using IV morphine without any allowance !!!
A few? Wrong Make that nearly 1000. Why should the service pay an allowance when you guys do it for nothing? They are running a business like everyone else. Losers!!!!
Do our Corporate Culture Surveys make any difference at all.? Does anybody really read them? Is anybody really interested? How many have we had over the last 10 years with no response or action from management? I’ve lost count.
Probably the most alarming element of the equation is the reality that ambos at the majority of smaller stations have little or no opportunities to develop to the higher clinical levels. How many really good P1 officers do you know with 10, 15 or more experience? I know heaps. Good for morale? No. Nitwits!
Some stations as we all know are over one hour from the closest hospital let alone a trauma center and the ambos have limited skills?. Limited skills after so many dedicated years of service?, Limited skills when they are so far from a hospital?, it just doesn’t make sense. No doubt many have died because of this fact alone. Good for morale? No. Nitwits!
Officers have been left to rot in the country by those nitwits in Education and Professional Development. Sure they mail allot of stuff out to them nowadays and that just pisses them off even more. Good for morale? No. Nitwits!
As I said no one seems to be interested in actually reading the results of our Corporate Culture Surveys.
Also what is starting to happen now is all of the 5 min wonder frogs trained up in Sydney over the last 5 years are starting to filter into the country further diminishing a chance for these officers to progress clinically at their own station. Good for morale? No. Nitwits!
They just don’t get it. They don’t have the insight or intelligence to comprehend what is happening. Nitwits!
I know, Let’s have another Corporate Culture Survey and waste some more tax payers money.
Nitwits!!!!
SPIDER
P.S. Don’t you have anything to say P.A.P?, I mean Max. How about addressing Malone’s vendetta against Level 4. I know and I’m sure you know too.
Lots of talk here but nothing will ever change. A senior manager told me it will all blow over. They (meaning us) are too weak to do anything about it and it will blow over. It always does and he was dead right. We are a bunch of losers and the firm knows it and that my fellow workers is why we get treated the way we do. It is our own fault.
Anyone else remember a time when the firm would give us a cash Christmas bonus? Sometimes it might be a hundred dollars which was a lot of money back then. This year not a single thing from Roachford and his band of merry men...nothing. Even the area office didn't send anything. The Christmas spirit in the ambulance service is dead. Roachford is the Grinch.
Last night on the central coast an Ambo was accompanied by a PTO!Yes thats correct,the svc could not get enough Ambos to work New Years Eve,so they put a PTO on to work the truck.
I would of thought that this would of caused immediate Industral Action!
Oh silly me to think that,when we all know we are all spineless!!!!!!
Happy New Year,lets hope we all grow a spine in 09.
RE:
Last night on the central coast an Ambo was accompanied by a PTO!Yes thats correct,the svc could not get enough Ambos to work New Years Eve,so they put a PTO on to work the truck.
I would of thought that this would of caused immediate Industral Action!
Oh silly me to think that,when we all know we are all spineless!!!!!!
Happy New Year,lets hope we all grow a spine in 09..........
OK so are the staff in the ops centre in our union or not?
Where was the sub-branch?
Where was the "manager" in your union?
Where was HSU?
What prick approved it???????
OR...................
Welcome to the new year and the new arangements for 2009.
After all the PTO's only got a shit pay rise so why not use them instead of those high priced ambos (oops PARAMEDICS)
In ANY other union this would have caused an IMMEDIATE walkout !!
But you pussies DIDN'T do so AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Welcome to the new world order, the Garling Report (which most of you idiots wouldn't have bothered to read) suggested having a driver and a "paramedic" as a team to do all the work to save money.
I am so fucking glad that I don't work in the ASNSW any more because you snivelling, gutless, spineless excuses for Ambos aren't worth pissing on.
You have let down your workmates, the health profession in general and the public you "proport" to serve, once again.
I think I would rather crawl over broken glass, minefields and the NSW Labor Party to get to our 3rd world health care system than call you undertrained, (self)overrated bunch of stooges who get drugs and skills through the post.
To all you new P1's or whatever you now call yourselves (probably Post-it Paramedics), I can't wait for you fools to get to 10 years and then FINALLY figure out how you fucked yourselves (and your current workmates)over pay and rosters and then scream about wages and conditions that your "betters" fought for, for decades!!
But in the meantime suck up and get more drugs (that you will never actually know how to use properly and will probably (definitely) kill half of those you are chartered to save because you have ignored the basics just to set up a line and look good (to YOURSELF)).
But don't EVER, EVER fool yourselves, ESPECIALLY if you EVER come to my house, because I KNOW a pro when I see one.
So in 2009, strut your stuff in your new (custom made, perfect fit)uniform, call your selves a Paramedic, but us old timers can spot a phony a mile away.
In another decade I expect to see REAL Ambos start to assert themselves, but NOT now!!
Hope you pussies get used to working with PTO's (who work a LOT harder than you jerk offs) on a regular basis, because that's what you just signed up for.
So pucker up children your next "driver" will be from Mathew Talbot, enjoy the responsibility because you suckholes will BE responsible.
ex REAL Paramedic,
You may be able to spot a phoney a mile away but we can spot you on this blog every time Rick. How have you been big fella?
Ex Real Paramedic,
Good to see someone who wants to speak up. I like the bit about the “post-it paramedics”, how true it is. I know ambos that have received midazolam training and the authority to administer it through the post but they have never seen it used let alone administer it themselves. Legally speaking the service would be crucified in a court of law if a patient died or suffered adversely after being administered Midazolam by someone with such limited and inadequate experience.
As for the PTO working with an ambo on the central coast, this would have been a manager’s decision, that manager will be a paying member of the HSU like us. So nothing will happen because HSU will never criticise one of it’s own paying members. They will probably take a shot at Rochford though for allowing it to happen. Funny stuff.
Same old story.
SPIDER
Spider .... you are right on the money again and "ex paramedic" oh how right you are !
WHAT IS THIS ASSOCATION DOING ???? THERE ARE JUST HUNDREDS OF PARAMEDICS I KNOW JUST WAITING TO JOIN AND GET SOME TRIGGER TIME !
Operations Centre staff are in the sub branch but as usual we are left out. We were not even included in the award so get stuffed you get what you bastards deserve no one has helped or thought of ambulance the paramedics that work in the ops centre. So kiss my hairy bean bag wankers.
I love the Hairy Bean Bag!
I am going to get mine out right now.
The other day here on the central coast,a man was pulled from the surf(dead),then taken to the nearest ambulance station,dumped into a PTO truck,so the police could pick up the body and take it to the morge at a more suitable time for our busy police officers .All because there were not enough Ambos out on the road!they were needed for more jobs,it was busy.To bad about the respect given to the dead man and his family,who I might add were looking for him,at the hospital.
So here we have it,you dont take a dead person straight to the morg,by pass to the nearest station,off load to a PTO truck,and away we go,off to save the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good thing the dead cant speak,or can they!!!!!
Mate, fair dinkum you have submitted a story regarding the the dead surfer pulled from the surf and you could not be any more wrong in what you have stated.
I would suggest you get your facts right.
What i will confirm is the man was pulled from the surf and could not be revived.
The crews activated a helicopter suspecting a spinal injury which arrived and landed in a park in The Entrance.
Because the pt was pronounced deceased then he could not be transported by chopper. The pt was still in the back of an Ambulance and was transported to a local ambulance station where he remained in the back of the car.
The pt family attended the local ambulance station and remained with the pt until he was transported to a morgue facility.
Why, i do not agree with such an unethical practice as such, nor would the coroner i would suggest not to get on here with 3rd rate information, as i would be interested as to your motive to do so, but rather contact the appropriate people eg media, NSW Coroner and expose the service.
Possible criminal offence may have been committed.
At the end of the day 2 paramedics all most lost their jobs for taking a pt to hospital via another Central Coast ambulance station to pick up 20 due to bed block. The service crucified these 2 Ambo's.
Tell me what is the difference?
Poor lost souls,
We are the masters of our own destiny. Don't blame Spider - or Rochford for your pathetic careers.
Want to be a real paramedic - go to the city and deal with Dr.R.C. Wright every day for six months and see how long you last.
Then have yoir peers review every case that you do just to see that you are safe.
Watch teh daily parade of failure -60 % failre rate. NO ONE EVER got their marks. All you ever received was a nod or a shake of his balding head to see if you stayed or left.
There was no shame in leaving if you gave it your best - most did.
If and when you pass - adjust to the sledging of those who can't or won't have a go at the course and blame everyone except their own inpetness.
That' right you will be called "arrogant" and an "elitist" kust because you proudly wore a badge with youir name and cousre number.
They don't see all the hard work and the familial sacrifices you endure just to be the very best that you can be.
"Let's hug a REAL paramedic."
Mow all I see are whingers.
Spider you are simpleton and an idiot.
All my love...
P.A.P.
By Justin Vallejo
January 02, 2009 12:00am
AMBULANCE officers have received hate mail and abuse after a co-worker killed herself following alleged bullying.
Well-liked Cowra ambulance officer Christine Hodder's death led to a backlash against the station from the tight-knit community.
Ms Hodder was allegedly victimised and harassed by male colleagues before taking her life in April 2005, leaving behind her husband Jason and daughter Brittany.
Cowra Ambulance Station staff have referred the mail, some sent from as far as Ireland, to police for investigation.
One letter, obtained by The Daily Telegraph read: "I hope the men involved in her bullying are disgusted to walk around in their own skin.
"You helped be the cause of what she did. Your actions contributed to at least 1 per cent (probably heaps higher) of her thought processes.
"That small or significant percentage led directly to her mental state being so fragile she took her own life. Her daughter has no mother now forever. Do you have children?''
Ambulance officers have borne the brunt of the community's abuse for Ms Hodder's death. Station staff, speaking on condition of anonymity, believe the responsibility for the bullying is not as clear as former station manager Phil Roxburgh told a recent inquiry.
There has been in-fighting and finger-pointing since Ms Hodder's death. Mr Roxburgh told the inquiry he left Cowra on stress leave after he was bullied for supporting Ms Hodder - a claim rejected by current staff.
The inquiry found that Ms Hodder suffered bullying that included taunts, insults, ostracism, sexual discrimination, degrading treatment and being discredited in front of patients.
The ambulance service recently delivered letters to Cowra staff, by hand, requesting interviews with an external company to work through "tensions between people''.
P.A.P
Very Good, dribbling as usual. The “all my love” thing was a bit scary. Not a gay man myself, but have a lot of good friends who are. Maybe I could set you up with one of them?
SPIDER
PAP me old mate, have you ever done a typing course or do you sit in the dark when you decide to get on here to bore us with that drivel.
What was your point?
Do you have fat stumpy fingers because if it is not your eye sight your a shocking speller.
Sorry just pointing out the obvious.
Mr X,
As you say the real facts can be lost to present a good story. As for the 2 ambos that decided to pickup 20 with a code 4 is not appropriate under any circumstances. This lack of professionalism is an insult to the rest of us and a slur against our good names.
But what do you expect, our system, if you can call it that, is set up in such a way that service experience has no value when it comes to clinical advancement opportunities. Most new officers would only ever consider a Level 5 officer to be their role model. They view the rest as ambos that weren’t worthy enough to make it all the way. What these new officers don’t understand is that the majority of these very senior officers have never had the chance to do a Level 5 course, and what the service doesn’t understand is that these officers have huge amounts of wisdom and common sense to impart.
Maybe if the service understood this the incident mentioned above would never have happened.
SPIDER
Any wankers here still in that corrupt two faced group of idiots calling themselves a union ?
What a joke .... !
Why anybody would give there hard earned cash to an idiot using it to screw you for his own personal gain is beyond me ???
I am now HSU free for 2 weeks and it feels great.
Talking about the HSU for a moment.
You have police, fire and nurses threatening strike action if they don't get a decent payrise.
Well we got a pay cut and did nothing.
What do you think the fair dinkum unions of this country think of the HSU and more so Williamson.
Fucking embarrassing is what it is
Well it’s official girls and boys, this year is set to be a bursting with fun and excitement.
Australaia Post are going to be run of their little feet delivering parcels to all the new “Post-it” paramedics.
Yes an assortment of skills and drugs via a CD-ROM is coming to a town near you.
I bet you are all keen as mustard and are awaiting the packages with baited breath.
The best part is you won’t be getting one red cent for your troubles. Thanks in advance HSU.
The parliamentary inquiry suggested the reintroduction of Level 4 especially in the bush.
So if you are a P1 out there be prepared because a shitload of stuff is coming your way.
By the way you won’t be called Level 4, just a P1 with Level 4 skills, so no allowance for you.
By the time all the sub-branches decide how to respond most will be doing it anyway.
Sucked in again!!!!
That said.... how many of you still know some poor suck who's only reason for staying in the HSU is they cant be bothered to ring the pay office or the bank and stop thier payments !
GET ONTO THEM !!!
Williamson relys on people like that .... just as the modern day gyms rely on people joining but not actually ever coming to the gym !!
If you know someone who is still paying into the HSU, remember ..EVERY DOLLAR THEY GIVE WILLIAMSON IS HURTING YOU !
TRY AND TALK SOME BLOODY SENSE INTO THEM ... MAKE IT YOUR MISSION TO HELP THEM HELP THEMSELVES !
I just got back from Sussex Inlet Cabins.
Went down there with the Family over christmas.
NEVER A FUCKEN GAIN.
What a friggin SHIT HOLE.
Cabins smelt like a Redfern Alley complete with roaches.
What sort of conditions do you poor bastards that recommended this place live in?
Thanks for another RIP OFF HSU.
Death and Disability !!!! Is it real? Does anyone know of any who has gone through it and been paid? I know of a ambo's family up the mid coast, who passed over 12 months ago and the family still have not been paid through the Death and Disability Scheme. Shorly, this can't be right? Is this all a joke? Who is looking after us? Sad Times!
Who is looking after us? Michael Williamson is on the board for the D&D!! From what I read of the policy you would all but need to be confined to a wheel chair to get a payout. There is a clause in there that says "if you cannot do the job you are trained or educated for" and what that means is that if you were trained as a pie maker 25 years ago then you are still trained or educated in something other than ambo work so you miss out on the payment. The only chance you have is if you joined this job straight from school and have no other education. Even if you worked in a McDonalds as a kid guess where you will be going when the ambo's have had enough of you? Ask me how I know.
D & D is just another corrupt money spinning scheme of Michael Willaimsons !!! are you all fucking stupid or what .... they ( the labour government ) promised Willaimson that if he covered there arse with this bogus scheme and got us all paying a large proportion of our wages that he would be a shoe in for the the next parlimentry spot !
It is not worth the paper is is written on and anyone with a brain would know that.... MY brother in-law is a lawyer... and after a brief read... of the document, laughed so hard, i thought his sides were going to split !!!
There are those over the age of 55 who are forced to pay into it ... yet get nothing EVEN IF THEY ARE IN A FUCKING WHEEL CHAIR !
How this guy still has several hundred of you paying him vast amounts of your hard earned cash each pay day is beyond me ?
3 weeks HSU free now and loving it. I love the fact that there are dumb people out there paying hard earned money for me to have a $500 a year pay rise now. Thanks people. Oh but hang on what if I get in the shit and need the union? I know of one officer who has been on suspension for 12 months over a bullshit complaint and no sign of the union anywhere. I know of another who after being almost killed in a code 14 was told by the union to let them know when the service sacked her (which they did) when she told them their response was "well we can't help you now you aren't a member anymore" it goes on. If you feel being a member is some kind of insurance policy then keep paying. You are only fooling yourself. When you watch the news each night and see what a fuck up the labour party in NSW is give yourself a pat on the back because you are helping to fund it. Meantime at the end of 12 months my $500 will go towards my kids for Christmas because as hard as we work no labour government is going to give $1000 to any ambo for free like they did to the bludgers of society. You all saw it.
Things have certainly quitened down haven't they. Seems that boss was spot on. We are all puff and wind. They win again.
There is alot of talk about forming our own association. Keep an eye on www.paramedicsnsw.org.au
It is time for a change. How about representing OURSELVES?
Let's start looking to the future. HSU's use-by date has well expired and yes, Mr Williamson is getting us nowhere.
Start looking at other state's associations....do your homework. We will soon have to make some decision...together...no country Vs city, just us together, wearing the same uniform...no more HSU...
Do your homework NOW!
Have we got a fair pay rise yet?
Doesn't the new roster come in March?
Have we got the meal issue sorted out before that date?
Why is the HSU so quiet? has some deals been done with the delegates to keep it on the Q T.
How come nothing has come of the service using a PTO and AMBO together on new years eve on the central coast?
Looks like we have well and truly bent over hey!
bent over !!
Ha... mate the HSU ( AKA the management ) has had us all bent over for years.
Lets face it, there are two types of people in this world..... hard working honest loyal ambos and the likes of those who would climb on thier own mothers back just to get to the top of the ladder.
The latter of the two did a deal with Michael Willaimson a long long time ago.
Michael and those senior managers ie the supers have been giving it to us up the arse for years now, but not even that would make you apathetic bunch go out on the grass or stick up for yourself.
As for the HSU being quite, i have it on good authority that williamson has stopped telling the deligates anything ???
YEP BUT YOU STILL KEEP PAYING..... SO WHY SHOULD HE WORRY !
HSU NOT! Leave the union folks. Do your selves a favour. Save your cash because we are the good guys.
Williamson and his buddies are all ties up with a broke and corrupt labour and National body. It;s a boys club. Jobs for the boys. Who can you complain to ? No one. It all comes back to the same nepotistic boys club. Try Alan Jones and four corners. I know we are. Wait for it! LOCAL NSW CENTRAL COAST AMBO WHO PASSED IN NOVEMVER 2007, his family has not been compensated! FACT! How would you like your family to be in that situation? It's a disgrace. Lets make some noise. Just waiting for Jones to return from leave and give him the guts! Be positive, We are good. They are corrupt and they will have to answer!
Don't mean to be rude but what did the ambo pass from and why does he get compensation. I am a long way from there and haven't heard a thing about any of that. I will support anything worthy of it even though where I am I don't see anyone or hear anything. All I do is go to work.
The Ambo in question died from Cancer.His Wife was paid his D&D last Friday,9/01/09.Allmost 17 months after he passed away.
Yes he had children and a wife,she was left with a morgage,she also had to deal with the grief of his passing,yet the svc stalled for 17 months,there are many others who have not been paid yet either,many who cannot work,yet are suppose to live on rice and water!
Yet you mugs still prase the HSU and there merry men and women you call managers!
what a joke,when are you people going to get it,cant you all see whats going on,no one and I mean no one has heard from the HSU,why,
well who knows why,because no one has head from them.Its been along fucken holiday over xmas for them!
Thanks for that mate. I would say that is typical of any insurance company and the svc is no different. In fact they get worse every day. I guess at least she got paid it. 12 months ago she wouldn't have even got a phone call. I feel sorry for those blokes (and they are all blokes as the women who join this job are long gone by 58) who have to pay it but have no right to claim it because they are too old. WTF is that all about and how did it slip through. This job is fucked. Oh well at least I get a thrill to see my union fees are now no longer being taken out but going into a separate account for use by ME!!!
The HSU has done FUCKEN NOTHING for you!
Stop paying the corrupt fuckers NOW
This is where Michael Wiliamson has his dirty little fingers ....
1.Secretary of the HSU,
2.Trustee of First State Super and Trustee of the Death and Disabilty.
3.Snr Vice President-ALP NSW Branch.
4.Snr Vice President-Unions NSW.
5.ACTU Executive member.
6.National President of the HSU of Australia.
7.Member of the NSW ALP,Administrive commitee.
8.Member of the NSW,ALP Industral commitee.
9.Member of the ALP National Executive commitee.
10.Member of the Australasian Mutals Institute (AMI)
11.Member of the Association of Superannuation Funds of Australia (ASFA).
12.Board Member since 2003 SGE Credit Union
" HSU Members Credit Union is a divisiion of SGE Credit Union !
AND IF YOU DONT BELIEVE THIS SHIT GO TO
http://www.sgecu.com.au/directors.asp
WHERE YOU WILL SEE THE PROOF AND HIS SMUG LITTLE FACE.
Ambos dying and not getting compensated ... good officers taking there own lives (one every year since i joined the job), paycuts and managers bullying and harressing staf over and over again ... without one single word from the HSU ???
It's not good enough just to stop paying him, we have to stop all this shit, and he needs to be investigated !!!
Word is 8 hour shifts from march.
And for those of you who say they won't have enough staff be prepaired for a suprise.
Service has been training DRIVERS.
Thats right.
DRIVERS only with first aid certificate.
And for those of you who say they can't do it, patient safety blah blah blah.
They will do it, they tested the waters and know the HSU will do nothing.
Yeah I heard about the drivers too. Good thing though is they were all imported from Sweden and they are all ex au pare girls. I think we will be ok.
What happened to the four on five off that we were promised in return for the frigging pay cut we are all getting ???
can you imagine all the IMS reports they are going to get regarding near misses and patient safety if they give us just drivers to work with ???
Can you imagine turning up at a tripple or even four person code 9 ! and i have done a few of late with only one paramedic ?? if they were really crook ie spinal with serious trauma or pedi, you would have to send up to 8 - 10 cars to this one job in order for the scene to work !!
They could never do it.... mind you, I never thought they would train paramedics via a cd in the post either.... not to mention this crazy dispatching system that is placing so many patients at risk its just not funny !
God ...how did things ever get this bad ??? and more to the point, when are we going to grow a spine and stand up to these pricks... i and just about every other ambo i know is just itching to go out on the grass..... whats happening with the assocation ??? just fucking email everyone, you will see that i am right !
I agree it won't work but I still think they will do it.
Apparently its in the Garling report.
I heard they have been traing them in the West of Sydney at some secret location.
Alot of NESB people.
I am trying to get all the facts so I can call Allan Jones.
It makes me sick in the stomach to know the service is doing this so under handedly.
Not a fucken chance.
It will not happen
rumour mongers.
Quote from management in rferance to further strike action...."it will all blow over"
Rescue is coming back.
So is Harold Holt you idiot
Whinge whinge and fucking whinge....!
Go suck your thumbs you wankers.
Go work for a real boss and see what life is all about.
I hope Willis and Rochford really take an axe to your superb conditions you overpaid and underworked lot of soft cocks and dry pussies.
You mean Harold Holt the superintendant? What a nice bloke.
You mean Harold Holt the superintendant? What a nice bloke.
re : Anonymous ==> Whinge whinge ... there are people you can phone and talk to about your problems... you dont have to behave in an irational and stupid maner !
Please seek some help... i am really concerned about people like you and these sort of comments... makes me wonder whats going on in your head.
To the rest of you all helping to spread the word.. well done ! we will win, it just has to reach critical mass before we all explode !!!
re : Anonymous ==> Whinge whinge ...
You are living in a fools paradise.
Grow up and learn what life is all about.
re : Anonymous ==> Whinge whinge ...
No buddy, the difference between you and me is that the job has obvously knocked the stuffing out of you.... you are a bitter and twisted unit and you really need help.
I on the other hand am filled with hope... yes the service has dealt me some shit and tried to beat me down over the years, but they will never get to me. I am looking at a group of people that have had enough and it is only a matter of time now before they stand up to be counted because the service are on a roll .... and they are so stupid they will just keep pushing and pushing and pushing ... because it is in the nature of the bully ! BUT ..... nature shows us over and over again that things can only be pushed so far and then something has to give !
I BELIEVE WE ARE VERY VERY NEAR TO THAT POINT !
WATCH THIS SPACE !
We are watching Anon.
The way I see this job going is that once upon a time it was a hands on job. They always said the best ambo's came from mechanics, plumbers, builders etc you know people who had to use not only their heads but their hands to get a job done. Now it is a university degree straight out of school and an intensive care paramedic within a couple of years. These people are being told they are the new breed and those old ambo's out there know nothing. Now we have a bunch of 'academics' who 90% of the time are doing routine work and getting frustrated because of it. The tradesmen knew how to get what they wanted, they had life experiences and had usually worked under a real union. The new age ambo's are a bunch of wimps who will never get a thing they think they deserve because they are too piss weak to walk off. You all reap what you sew. I wonder what real paramedics like Jeff Gilchrist and Steve Irons think about the 5 minute wonders running around with ICP on their shoulders? I bet they shudder at the thought. P1 in the post, ECP's running single and working to keep people AWAY from hospital, PTO's working with paramedics due to staff shortages? What next? Is anyone doing anything about it. Are you ringing your delegates and protesting or are you waiting for someone else to do it. Do you know the ambulance service recently told a government committee that NSW ambo's were among the best paid emergency workers in Australia and that they are working on a plan to stop all overtime or at the very least reduce it drastically? Can you survive on basic pay? Get used to it, it is coming unless you start moving NOW. Stop bitching and fighting amongst yourselves for once and realise you are all in it together no matter whether you wear ICP, Rescue or anything else on your shoulder. I feel you are all doomed because the service is now full of university grduated nancy boys and girls. Good luck to you all and yes anonymous I am watching this space with interest while I count my super payout because I am one of the lucky ones who has seen the best of this job and am now out enjoying my retirement.
So Fucken True
Poor lost souls:
Retired ambo 33 years;
Spot on brother. I love you.
P.A.P.
re: Retired Ambo (33 years) said... ((( Are you ringing your delegates and protesting ))) ??????
What for .... ???? really .... i mean what fucking for ?????
They all believe that Williamson is a good bloke and that all the negotiations are working towards some good ??? FOOLS !!! have you not seen the number of pies Willaimson is into :
"Director experience"
1.Secretary of the HSU,
2.Trustee of First State Super and Trustee of the Death and Disabilty.
3.Snr Vice President-ALP NSW Branch.
4.Snr Vice President-Unions NSW.
5.ACTU Executive member.
6.National President of the HSU of Australia.
7.Member of the NSW ALP,Administrive commitee.
8.Member of the NSW,ALP Industral commitee.
9.Member of the ALP National Executive commitee.
10.Member of the Australasian Mutals Institute (AMI)
11.Member of the Association of Superannuation Funds of Australia (ASFA).
12.Board Member since 2003 SGE Credit Union
" HSU Members Credit Union is a divisiion of SGE Credit Union!
They are just puppets and the HSU is NEVER .... and i will repeat this one last time for the late learners out there... NEVER going to do anything for the hard working ambos except back door deals with the government to reduce our wages and conditions and forward his own career !
If he was serious about representing us, he would email us all and ask the following two questions
1) What do YOU want
2) What are you prepared to do to get it !
Then publish the results on the HSU intranet and form a plan of action immediatly !
WAKE UP .....!
P.A.P
Not so long winded as usual, good for you.
Retired Ambo (33 years),
I agree with with your last post totally except for your belief in HSU.
Management are in HSU with us and they run all the big plays, some ambos just don't understand the problems associated with this sort of system. Anyway I won't go on.
Experience used to mean something in this job. You should see what's happening in the country, 5 min wonder ECP's taking up positions at stations where veteran ambos have been left to rot clinically thanks to the likes of managers like Malone and McCarthy and their band of bumbling nitwits. Yep these officers are now junior to these new officers clinically? i know let's have another Corporate Culture Survey....fucking nitwits!
Most sub-branches are so dysfunctional they couldn't agree on the colour of the sky let alone present an articulate argument to help your average baggy arsed ambo with their conditions of employment. Single officer stations have only just recently been abolished. How long have HSU known about the Oh&S risk to officers? One decade, two decades, they have known for fucking years and done nothing. How many officers have suffered, how many people have died?....fucking nitwits!
HSU is done for in the service and everybody knows it, a conflict of interest and corrupt as hell, it's just a matter of time.
SPIDER
Poor lost souils,
Spider:
Your same old crap...Change your tune please Greg.
P.A.P.
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