Hi there, fellow ambo's.
How many times can we be shafted? Ripped off pay wise, ripped off workload wise, under-staffed, over-worked, treated like shit in general by management, not looked after by the State Government, not to mention a piss-weak union.
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wife of EX SECRETARY B.W.S.B.
sorry my mistake that was all the members of the B.W.S.B that handed in resignations not just Ettalong.
wife
Labour Voter (Not) said,
Well what a real intellectual you are the whole point is that the union is in bed with management, management is in the union, management influences all of the decisions of HSU. This is the system you want to work in? Don’t have a problem with it? Like a bit of conflict of interest. Well real ambos and real Australians don’t like people pushing them around.
And you say we should forget this corrupt and perverted system that has been detailed by so many writers in this forum. And all you have to say is “it failed because you would rather moan than actually pull your collective fingers out of your asses and stick together”.
Where did you get this ideology from Adolf Hilters famous book Mien Campf. OH YES THE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT AND OPPRESIVE BUT STOP WHINGING AND LETS STICK TOGETHER.
You have no idea what people have been talking about in this forum. Idiots like you are why the Nazis nearly took over the world. OH YES THE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT AND OPPRESIVE BUT STOP WHINGING LETS STICK TOGETHER.
what a bunch of gutless fucks you all are.
Noone handed any resignations in at the delegates meeting.
Dennis.R. your a gutless knob
Fucking sucked in.
well you are wrong norton baby !!!!
and if you all listen to DENNIS.R. and stuck together then you all would not be on this Blogg whinging now would you all.
I didnt hear of any members down there at the meeting standing by your delegates makeing sure they put your resignations in.
DENNIS.R.
Herbie Says,
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. You lot are fucking piss funny. Resignations galore you said, we are gone you said, fuck HSU you said. Ha Ha Ha. As the self deity HERB said, Stick together my children, we shall overcome the tyranny, we shall fight them and we shall WIN.
Herbie xoxo
Quiet Frankly Norton if you think it is so easy ,why dont you put your hand up,I know for a fact there will be a Secretary position coming up at the B.W.S.B !!!!!!!!
at the next sub branch meeting.
Norton you would make a good delegate,,,,,you are a GOBBBBBB !!!
DENNIS.R.
Hey Mr McNorton.
You are the intellect of this blog.We should take the McNorton and Herbie show on the road, although I dont think we can be as funny as Dennis R and his soft cock mates.
Herbie xoxo
I'm in the Hunter Region talked with some guys from the Outer Hunter they didn't even know there was a meeting on like us. Let alone putting in resignations from HSU.
You would have had our support if we had known.
Well AL,,, there is still time feel free to hand them in any time mate
The HSU dont care if they have them or not.You are only 4% of the whole union,so they dont give a rats anyway.
that is what was said today "i Quote" give yourself a pay rise its the only one you are going to get mate . DENNIS.R.
AL , Why dont you talk to your president or cant he be found either,
I am getting close, just a few more posts Norton.
I like having relatives in the AFP.
I think he has been told to pull his head in by HSU and Management. I think he is laying low....funny that.
For now, here's what Jillian Skinner had to say:
I've been raising these issues on behalf of ambulance officers for a long time. They've been contacting me because they feel they don't get a hearing from their union, the Ambulance Service or the NSW Minister and her government. I've asked questions in parliament, raised their concerns through the media etc It got so problematic for the Minister a couple of months ago that she set up yet another (useless) inquiry!
The only way to keep the pressure on is for ambos to keep sending me material - worksheets, case studies, rosters, photos or ambulances banked up etc etc. I will not divulge the source if that is requested.
The latest exposure of ambulance problems I raised was just this weekend - based on the work sheet from Central Coast. If you want to see some of the press I've done on this please visit www.jillianskinner.com
I can be contacted through my Parliament House number 02 9230 3080 if you want to discuss some of these options further.
Regards
Jillian
Jillian Skinner, MP
Member for North Shore
Shadow Minister for Health
Shadow Minister for The Arts
Electorate: tel: 99092594 fax: 99092654
Portfolio: tel: 92303080 fax: 92303406
Hey Al from the Hunter I am GB from the Hunter, instead of bagging Rumbo, his telephone No. is on the HSU Letterhead qive him a ring and make you ill informed statement to him not on this blog.
I want to take this oportunity to thank all you HSU ambo's out there for your support.
I am not talking about moral but monetary.
You see I have political aspirations. Now I could have gone to university and funded my own degree in politics but uncle Mike suggested I do what he does.
That is join the HSU. (which is the Labor party anyway) and get a post representing gullible ambo's. Now I draw a decent wage (thanks guys) while I groome myself for a political carear.
The ambo's pay the HSU $1.5 million per annum, and all I have to do is smooth things over with you, tell you we are doing all we can do, things are progressing nicely etc. etc....Oh, and when you arc up I hit you with the old....Ambulance Service makes up 4% of our membership buts draws 27% of our resources. This tends to make you think that we are doing you a huge favour, then I throw in the old leave if you like no one else will take you on bluff.
So I am learning alot thanks. I mean it pays the bills, plus I get known by senior politians who tend to remember the favours I do them.
Just the other day I was giggling with the lads, I had a pineapple ($50) that bans would be lifted at the mass meeting. (I forgot to thank you for that, thanks, Bought a bottle of Beams Choice with that one).
Any way thanks again, oh and I almost forgot to remind you if you have not authorised direct debit jump to it, thanks.
Also to my old mates that poach the probies straight out of Rozelle to claim the sign up bonus. Its fun isn't it, taking them for a ride I mean.
I could go on and on but I have a sleep over at greg's tonight.
Take care.
Hey GB, nuff nufff nuff, Learn to speak while your walking upright you dog.
Sorry I forgot to mentioned thanks you guys for believing that my Superintendent buddies in the service (paying HSU members) don’t have a say in what I do to you. I can’t believe we have got away with it for all these years. As I have also said everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
You know it can also be really lonely here at the top boys and girls in this big office, but it is really comforting to me when I look down upon all you funny little ambos. Thanks again for all the money too that you are donating to my political career. If I remember I’ll send you all out some more stickers and a T-Shirt.
To Anonymous@10:21
I don't think AL was bagging Rumball. The OH guys have their own S/B to bag.
Sec is on leave, trying to bypass HSU chain of command and go straight into federal politics.
His election strategy lacks any mention of the words "Ambulance Officer" unless they're following the words "Trust me. I'm an..."
Pres is hybernating as A/RS (acting Ron Schmith) down here.
I doubt if Plodfoot is encouraging him to shaft the svc.
Two very vocal and effective brothers who have been gagged by the system.
We should start up a collection and send them an exec committee.
In Sec's defense, he wouldn't get votes by trying to get his own workmates a 30% payrise.
Dear Dumb Ambos,
You just prooved my point, blame management being in bed with the union, or blame everyone else.
For your info Adolf Hitler actually united an ENTIRE country,AND put germany back on it's feet after being financially obliterated after war reparations and the depression.
ONE man, JUST ONE MAN did it.
and NO I am not even close to being a nazi supporter.
Yesterdaay DID fail because many of the subbranch executives are in bed with the union, they like the power and the nods from management and the promotions that get handed out for favours done by keeping us quiet.
This is ABSOLUTELY proven by the numbers of ambos on this blog who didnt have a clue what was going on. AND they DIDNT know what was going on because they sit around deaf, dumb and blind ONLY because they didn't have the energy or the desire to get involved.
They let others do the work.
Those others, the subbranch execs didnt do the job they were voted in to do, got sweet talked my williamson & co and let us all down.
They get away with this EVERY year because NOBODY else stands up and takes control.
If it makes you feel better, just continue to blame everyone else, like you have been doing and will no doubt CONTINUE to do.
I bet if you crashed into a tree you would blame the tree, or the council for leaving it there.
Unfortunately this attitude of blaming everyone else is getting tiring, so many of your brothers and sisters have moaned and groaned on this blog about the same thing and STILL haven't figured it out.
Moaning here wont get us our pay rise, placing constructive arguements on HOW we will get it will. So will voting OUT all the deadwood in our subbranch executives.
Labour voter (not)
you truly are great the way you are so insightful and realise how incredibly stupid the rest of us are. I wish I was you.
love and kisses
a secret admirer
the way you admire Hitler I think really sums you up.
Unfortunately, this is the way of us, the ambos. We (and me) complain and complain but never actually do anything. We will always be stuck in this mentality, as said, until someone comes along and unites our cause. Me ? Sorry, i am guilty of apathy as well. Sorry, but after all these years, i am just to tired and brow beaten to spark up. But i live in hope ...
Labor Voter (Not)
Good God I think we have just created a plan, as you say “because many of the subbranch executives are in bed with the union, they like the power and the nods from management and the promotions that get handed out for favours done by keeping us quiet”
All we need to do is find one example, just one lousy example where a union delegates does this sort of thing. We can then make a protected disclosure to either the ICAC or even the Employee Advocate. Maybe even crucify him or her through the media. It might just be what we need to get the ball rolling.
Labor Voter (Not) as you say “Moaning here wont get us our pay rise, placing constructive arguements on HOW we will get it will. So will voting OUT all the deadwood in our subbranch executives”.
IF ANYONE USING THIS BLOG CAN FIND ONE EXAMPLE, JUST ONE WHERE A UNION DELEGATE ABUSES HIS INFLUENCE FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN PLEASE LET THIS BLOG KNOW!
Lets crucify the pricks!!!!!!
This might help people,
What is corruption? It literally means to destroy (from the Latin corruptus). It is not only about stealing, it can also relate to the abuse of power in decision-making processes.
Such as influencing the decision-making process of a public officer, conflicts of interests, or the use of an official position, rank or status for his own personal benefit.
I have a feeling of dejavu.
hey Dumb Ambos,
that's the spirit
I am sure this blog will be filled with the names of the guilty.
D/O Pollard for example?
They shouldnt be too hard to find now will they?
Someone who didn't tell the members, didnt hold a meeting to get their wishes, or if they did, rolled over at the meeting.
In addition, take away their power, vote them OUT at the agms, ANYONE who is NOT doing what the rank and file want them to.
The only problem is getting SOMEONE to stand in their stead.
ps for the anonymous who thinks i love adolf, my great grandfather was killed in the camps, he was a teacher of history.
It was simply to stress the point that it ONLY TAKES ONE to cause a revolt and turn things around.
well for your great gradfathers sake perhaps you should of picked a better example, no doubt he would be ashamed of you.
pol pot perhaps
greg r
anonymous:
no actually he was originally an ardent supported of dear old adolf, as were about 50,000,000 other germans.
he made the "mistake" of speaking out when he saw what happened later, in 1942 and let his comments slip to a nice little member of the hitler youth, who promptly shopped him.
Who else should I use
Stalin?
Castro?
Guevera?
Ho Chi Mihn?
you get the drift they were all shits but they did manage to change history.
Maybe we need a few shits, who have some guts and do what they believe in.
Or someone nice like George Washington, Winnie the Poo, Roosevelt or YOU perhaps?
no no, your the man with all the answers, you can lead us out of these dreadful times, maybe set up a camp or 2 to send these corrupt union heavies and management to.
Who knows, maybe labour voter (not) might be spoken of in the same breath as those on your list. I know i'll follow where ever you lead.
secret admirer
Dear oh dear,
Here we go again ...
LOL
you're right I've had my fun I'll stop now.
secret admirer/greg r./anonymous
Was the recent Sydney division planning forum ( 3 days in Sussex Inlet)held at the HSU cabins???
cabins?
more like the bangkok hilton
nothing is to good for our delegates
Labor Voter (Not), I have an example for you to use, the Assiduous Jules from Pulp Fiction, who stated...
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who in the name of charity and goodwill shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly my brothers keeper and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers, and you will know my name is Herbie when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
Hugs and kisses
Herbie
To all you out there,there was only one man that stood up yesterday.
Secretary of B.W.S.B. and he has now resigned because of the amount of softcocks there are.
I guess the HSU would be pleased that he has gone never to return.
He came home so disgusted that so many delegates did not tell their members.He got many phone calls from members in other sub branches wanting to know what was going on.
Only 1 man tried to change the out come.
But one cannot do it on their own.
There are to many sub branchs with delegates having their own agendas.There are just to many sub branches full stop !!!
This will not change unless you get rid of the Delegates and stand yourselves.
Its not hard but time consuming at times.
He enjoyed himself hope to be able to make a change for the better.
This union has been a big strain on our family and Iam glad to see the back of it.
I really and truly believe you will see nothing for the better untill Labour has been voted out of the state.
So 3 years to go and you might see a pay increase and the D&D up and running.for the mean time,all you can do is work hard and make as much money as you can,and put your familys first.
You are all wasting you time and energy fighting a HSU and State government who only worry about getting elected again.
Dont let that happen
Also at the meeting yesterday the HSU are already talking about makeing changes to the Work value claim for next May 08.So you can bet your bottom dollar that this claim will be held up again and again.Which means the D&D will not be sighned off on either!!!!!!!!
does that surprise you all.
Oh well round and round we go again ,whats new!!!!
And what does Jillian Skinner say,,,,,,,Ambos have had enough!!!!!WOW you would think she could come up with somethink better than that.
WIFE of EX SECRETARY B.W.S.B
WIFE of EX SECRETARY B.W.S.B
My congratulations to all your executive.
You all did your best and you can, amongst all the other also rans, hold your heads up high.
Sadly the best intentions of a very few cannot sway the masses.
Not when the other executives could not even be bothered informing their members or stating their members wishes in open forum against HSU.
You did your best and that my friends is ALL you could have done.
I fear that the rest of the ambos are going to reap the rewards of doing NOTHING.
Good luck being "Scabs" as the other idiots will probably call you, you are better off out of it.
All the best
Rik Shepherd
Iam glad the nightmare is over for me my husband and my children.
The members can have the HSU and if it means they will call us scabs well so be it.
Why should we care, no one else cares.
He has done more than his fare share,with little or no help from the other two Execs.
Bring on Xmas and a happy xmas to all you scabs out there.
You may find there are more scabs than not !!!!!!!!!
wife of Sec B.W.S.B xxxxxxxxxx
WIFE of EX SECRETARY B.W.S.B
My appologies, I thought he had a team going.
Consider all I said before to relate only to him.
Brings back old memories, I went years without even a secretary or vice prez because noone could be bothered UNTIL they wanted something.
Again, all the best
Rik Shepherd
dear Rik
Its hard when you have had it drummed into your head all your life that unions are great and the country cant do without them.
But for the first time in 40 odd years iam beginging to think differently.
It used to be good when unions were not so up governments arses and men were real men.
They where concerned about the work place and makeing it better for the workers.
My husband and I spent many many years in the Defence force,so without a union you thought you were hard done by!
well maybe not.
anyway I think the real me are either old or retired,or got smart and left the unions.
good luck to who is left !!!!!
wife.........
Rik Shepherd
stated cooperative, do you support the union????
Definition
The International Co-operative Alliance (ICA), an independent, non-government association established in 1895, which unites and represents co-operatives worldwide, has given the universally accepted definition of a co-operative as being:
“…an autonomous association of persons united voluntarily to meet their common economic, social and cultural needs and aspirations through a jointly-owned and democratically-controlled enterprise”.
Co-operatives are people-centred businesses which are member-owned, member-controlled and member-used. They are distinguished from other forms of incorporation by their participative ownership, their democratic structure and their use of capital for mutual rather than individual benefit.
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/business/cooperatives.html#Definition
Good brothers and sisters, listen forth to words of wisdom,
I have now read most of this sites comments and the good lord would be appaled with such defamatory language.
Praise be it to some with wisdom how ever perverted they maybe,they hath commented widely about theirs experiences,
Reverence be it to those whose comments belittle those others,
Such irreverent policy disfunctions can only be affored to the lack of wisdom shown by the brothers and sisters,
Let it be unto those who hath shown their true feelings unto others be afforded their place in hell!!!!
For those who have blasted their piers clearly show thy are simply less than 10 yrs service and think they hath vast knowledge, and for those who are over 10yrs service thy should remember the number of time thao hath experienced the "Wagon Wheel" effect of the service and thy dance with the union. Thao should remember how many times the same situation under a different name or entity hath been re-invented by new management and all in the name progress.
Let it be unto those who WOULD remember the days of the 3 "P"'s, Pull up, Pick up, Piss off. And how one only had an oxyviva, first aid kit, stretcher and for pain relief we had Trylene inhailers. Until the new drug "Entonox' can along. I remember 1 officer administering pain relief by dropping the entonox cylinder on the patients head.
You new young wippersnappers don't know thao art alive given the technological advances that have occured in the last 30 yrs. And the most you can argue about is a meal break.
To thao art those who wish the AEA would take a seat in our corner thao should know the AEA is funded / backed by the Tobacco and Alcohol industry, does that mean we should all be drunk and disorderly, dope smoking powder snorting fuck wits (forgive me lord).
Don't you people know we are robots, only sooks ask for meal breaks. Truth hath been told that most of you making such a whinge could well do with a weight loss for thao hath had too many meal breaks.
And unto those who hath complained about the union should know that it doesn't matter who is in the union they hath only there own to look after.
I remembers the time one such turn coat, (fookin aayy mate, ah fookin show the fookers), found a drinking mate with the same 'fookin language' and in a position of authority, got a turn coat injection, and now you can only see, not his sole, but the soles of his feet, disappearing into a brown hole.
Be not so fast to lay thy blame brothers and sisters for those of us are out there ever ready to sink thy sword deep into thy brothers back whilst happily shaking his hand.
So young ones The Good Reverend Blogsnott has given unto you all his first wisdom speech.
The Good Reverend Blogsnott ,
You sound Catholic, do you look done your nose at Gays? do you like little boys?
Piss Off.......Weirdo
dear yet another anonymous
I DID support the union for 28 years, over 14 of them as a sub-Branch president.
DO I now? I have no idea how HSU is functioning, only from what I have read on these blogs.
I got good support from HREA, but I had to fight for it, as ambulance is only what, 2% of members and the union DID have OTHER issues to resolve.
It appears that the vast majority of the rank and file are more than happy with HSU ss they did NOT resign en-mass.
I DID stand against Williamson as part of a team mainly comprised of old HREA reps many years ago, and lost.
I have said a million times that a union, ANY union, is only as strong as its weakest link. I am personally dusgusted from the comments made on this blog regarding sub-Branch executives failing to support their members.
How can HSU do what YOU want it to when the message is NEVER passed on by your executive?
I put up the concept of a co-operative IF everyone resigned from HSU as an alternative.
Since most have NOT resigned, the proposal is moot.
It would NEVER work because it involves EVERY officer resigning an dsigning on as a member of the co-op.
The benefits of a co-op are enormous and are worth persuing, but who out there cares>
Rik Shepherd
Sorry Rik I was'nt baging you , let me make the statement and re ask the question?
Rik supportes the cooperative. to all amdos do you support the union?.I hear many unhappy people please reread the posting 4.33pm could it be possable for all ambos to support each other????
I would like to know if a single Ambo or a group of Ambos go on a AWA?
can anyone shed light on this subject.
I was against AWAs untill yesterday and reading this Blogg since!!!!!!!!!
Rik the frog,
I know you mean well but the system we have cannot be supported or fixed by honest ambos because it is corrupt.
Rik the frog I wrote this to Labour Voter (not) this morning. I think we need to have a plan, this is the only strategy I can think off that we can use to start a crack in that big block of HSU granite. I would be interested in your thoughts.
Good God I think we have just created a plan, as you say “because many of the subbranch executives are in bed with the union, they like the power and the nods from management and the promotions that get handed out for favours done by keeping us quiet”
All we need to do is find one example, just one lousy example where a union delegates does this sort of thing. We can then make a protected disclosure to either the ICAC or even the Employee Advocate. Maybe even crucify him or her through the media.
Labor Voter (Not) as you say “Moaning here wont get us our pay rise, placing constructive arguements on HOW we will get it will. So will voting OUT all the deadwood in our subbranch executives”.
IF ANYONE USING THIS BLOG CAN FIND ONE EXAMPLE, JUST ONE WHERE A UNION DELEGATE ABUSES HIS INFLUENCE FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN PLEASE LET THIS BLOG KNOW!
Lets crucify the pricks!!!!!!
What is corruption? It literally means to destroy (from the Latin corruptus). It is not only about stealing, it can also relate to the abuse of power in decision-making processes.
Such as influencing the decision-making process of a public officer, insider dealing/conflicts of interests, or the use of an official position, rank or status for his own personal benefit.
Once we are rid of HSU then we can start our own honest system.
How on earth can you get rid of the HSU.We have some delegates who wont even tell their members when a meeting is on.
I think if we were able to have a mass meeting without the HSU may be a start.
May be get in contact with Jillian Skinner. No one can even get a mail out to every Ambo in NSW.
How do you get their contact details.
I know it wouldnt be that hard once the word got around,but how many are willing to travel,how many are willing to give up time with family.this was the seen at the last mass meeting 1/09/07.Or were people not told about that one too.
Who do you trust and who do you not???????
central coast
Hello,
it would appear that there are only about ten people on this blog at present bitter about HSU.
I am in favor being strong behind the union we have now like them or loth them.
The mass resignation obviously didnt pan out, for what ever reason, and i cannot forsee us leaving HSU.
And for the person character assasinating D/O Pollard, it is coward who writes ill of another without indentifing themselves.
Dumb Ambos (Great Name....You got that right) and Central Coast,
You guys are on the money alright.
If you don’t agree with the direction the HSU takes you have bugger all chance of changing it short of a riot. Those at the top aim to stay there with some aiming at a shot at politics. Heirs are already annointed and unless they drop of the perch, that’s how it stays.
The Ambulance Service of NSW would be in the IRC every other day if management did not try to form some kind of alliance with HSU. This is where your corrupt sub-branch delegates come in.
HSU is supposed to be for the ambos interests and therefore charge us fees. If they’re getting paid by both sides how can that be in an ambos best interest. We need management out of HSU now! In fact we need another union. Something less corrupt perhaps.
The conflict of interest is obvious. HSU needs to be exposed for what it is. Scam-artists of the highest order. I can’t wait for ACA and Today Tonight to start running stories on dodgy sub-branch executives and the fact that ambos are in the same union as their bosses.
I'm working on that one right now. See you all soon......SPIDER
thats great spider but are you prepared to go camera and stand up.yes we all know that we need a new union,but its all abit to hard for an ambo to actually do it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and i thought they were smart Mmmmmmmmm
I am very unhappy with the BS that has been going on with our pay, working conditions, D&D (my husband is cop and he says that the D&D they have, while better than nothing, is not as good as it is portrayed), etc, etc.
About just over 12 months ago, management tried to stagger our dine times. (just started on a new roster with a 7.30am start). This has never happened before, and we were very unhappy. We (it had nothing to do with the union), made a couple of phone calls and every car on the Central Coast went off station for code 20.
You know what? Management shit themselves. Pulled the president of our sub-branch into the office.
His reply 'You piss on the bull ants nest too long, and they will eventually come up and bite you on the cock'
They tried it the next day, with a different co-ordinator. We threatened to do the same, and in 5 min they were on the phone appologising.
My proposal - as of Monday 19th November, every staff member go off station for code 20, day and night,(yes and i will be on shift that day)INDFINITLY
One of two things will happen. They will dine us, and be short of cars, or fluidly deploy us cost the service $$$$$.(don't forget to get you case number)
I will be doing the same in protest.
WILL YOU JOIN ME?????
Let every one else know too.
The decisions we make will not only going to affect us now, but future ambos.
Thanks for reading
AG
AG, that was a beautiful day, 9 crews all off station unavailable for an hour. Within 5 minutes the sub-branch president was rang and was BEGGED, thats right BEGGED by management to stop.
I remember thinking, Today - This Day all these dumb ambo's have finally seen what unity can bring. You could not wipe the smile off my face.
You have got no chance of it ever happening again.
I put it down to an anomily.
It was just pure luck that 9 of the crews on that day actually had spines.
A FREAK event.
But I will Cherish it. Solidarity is a wonderful thing. And I can say I had seen it at least ONCE in my career.
this is THE ONLY way you are going to get results.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/teachers-approve-strike-over-pay/2007/11/14/1194766771526.html
I too have been a memeber of the unon for a couple of decades, and whilst not totally a believer of the unions role I have found that everythng in life consists of BALANCE.
Balance can be in any form. Our bodies have a Ph balance. That is one thing cancelles out the other when one side gets too high or low etc.
Life is a balance. Not counting the minority groups because "killing the black ants group" or 'Saving Land based Whales" groups are just that MINORITY. Our Governements consist of 2 major parties that rub against each other to create balance. The same as Union and busines create a balance for which we work.
NOW! as I said I have never been a big union supporter, however I stood with brothers in arms at the mass meeting, listeneng to numerous groups and individuals venting there angst against the ASNSW management and how the union should stand up and fight for our rights, ONLY TO SIT IN WONDER AND WATCH AT THE END OF THE DAY A MAJORITY VOTE GO AGAINST CONTINUING ACTION.
I could not believe it I sat in a car for HOURS to get there, like everyone else with strong views about our future to watch some limp wristed fat arsed "wise old Owl" type from the central coast area and the Superintendents branch give credence to 'take the foot of the pedal'. After sitting listening to all and sundry to turn around and settle for a weak excuse was to say the least frustrating.The balance was being tipped over.
Now I read with some interest all these comments about how the union this and how he union that.
THE BOTTOM LINE HERE FOLKS IS WE HAD THE REINS.WE HAD THE SERVICE ON THE ROPES. WE! THE OWNERS OF THE UNION and our destiny, and 'we'or better yet "You" let the opportunity go by. Our Union delegates got us to that meeting. Our union delegates fought for our rights to be there to vent our anger (or atleast it would appear SOME sub branches did)
WE! as the staff let the opportunity go by the oportunity to retur BALANCE. You all are the responsible parties who got it wrong. I voted with my colleagues against the action because we in the riverina wanted, saw, and felt strongly about getting the result WE wanted.
SO don't go blamming everybody else, start with yourselves. The sub branch is there to work for you. If you donnot like what they are not doing tell them, take action to fix it. I know I do!
Some of these entries on this blog I know are the same people under different tags, some may even be stirrers. But the bottom line here is you control the BALANCE that you want. TAKE ACTION.
Changing unions is not necesarily the right course either. because you have let our union get out of control in your area. (central coast)
BALANCE. Instead of asking for money why don't we ask for benefits.
This is a form of bartering. Now I know this union has traded off award items over the years only to fight to get them back years later, but we seem to want money not benefits. I recall, and spider may be able to help here,that the Broken Hill officers get their uniforms dry cleaned at no cost. How much does that cost per officer per year eh! How much less would we need to now spend on laundry costs if this was the case with us. Would that not mean money in our pockets for not having to wash our uniforms. What about Tax breaks or free public transport for you city officers Surely if it didn't cost you for transport then that would be money in your pockets. GOD why do we only see more MONEY as the answer to all problems.
BALANCE. There is only so much money in the world and this country has only so much it can give out. Every time we have wage rises the cost of living goes up accordingly. It is called BALANCE. SO! 20 yrs ago's wages and living cost really equal todays cost just at a higher scale. The balance is still there, we are no further or better off, the costs are still the same.
If you eally want to know, If Labor gets in then having state AND federal governments being abor then there will be NO BALANCE an this country will go so far to shit any of our fights and arguements will be miniscule and will not see light of day. Then the next state elecutions we will start to see coalition states -V- Labor federal, why, to keep balance.
I worry about the comments on rate rises, my first mortagage back in the 80's started at 8% and rose as high as 18%, so don't give me shit about 6 rate rises that are stils under 8%.
Don't know what the fuss is about. See the link below. The union is fighting hard for us ...
http://www.hsu.asn.au/Article.asp?d=NEWS&t=NEWS&p=2145
I beg to differ anonymous from above. Nobody worked for me. Just empty promises and lies...fact, not my opinion.
Dear Mr Williamson,
After failing to assist me with what your staff advises is an unpaid entitlement, neglect of my numerous phone calls, emails and written letter over a number of months, I wish to inform you of my immediate disassociation with the Health Services Union.
Never have I been more disappointed in the discrepancy between the services I am offered and that provided. The assurances of my attendance have not come to fruition, be it a positive or a negative result, and I will no longer pay a subscription for a failed service provider.
I ask that you immediately remove my name from your membership list.
Yours sincerely,
xxxxxx xxxxxx
Anonymous,
I don’t necessarily agree with you about “BALANCE” by accepting benefits etc. The fact remains that we are professional clinicians who work in a high pressure environment that relies on our experience, knowledge and skill. We need to be paid a reasonable wage commensurate with the responsibility we have. Especially with all the recent skill enhancements. A qualified P1 earns what about $23, $24 dollars an hour far less that other health care professionals with less responsibly. I don’t think paying our laundry bill is going to cut it.
Insider trading is the illegal buying or selling of securities on the basis of information that is unavailable to the public. Our union system is a bit like that. The ASNSW senior uniformed management including superintendents are INSIDERS. (It’s interesting you noted the superintendents branch were at the mass meeting as well) They have an interest in the service being run smoothly, being seen to perform etc but unfortunately they are paying HSU members like us, but not like us in that they report back to the executive. They like to be seen as having things under control. “BALANCE” is the equal division between contrasting, opposing, or interacting elements, obviously not in this case.
Some dodgey union delegates (wannabe senior managers) are also INSIDERS with knowledge and an interest of being able to seen to have things run smoothly as well. That’s why they keep their members in the dark and pander to management. That’s not “BALANCE” either.
There is an obvious ethical issue dealing with the premise the management is in our union. That’s not “BALANCE” by any definition.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.......
SPIDER
Spider
Your level of paranoia is concerning. There has been a lot of good advice posted on this site that you can utilise. I am not going to reiterate it all here because there are many worthy comments that you need to give serious consideration to.
The strategy that you chose has failed. Please do not continue to use the same as it shall not work a second or third or even a fourth time. People will just think you are crazy if you continue to pursue it.
You need to organise yourself and whoever else thinks similar. Blaming others is not leadership just because you did not get what you want.
You do have the ability to make change occur if you are prepared to think laterally.
Give it a go, you may surprise yourself at how much success you can have.
well well, there is balance spider, its everywhere. What you sometimes see is a break in the balance but the bigger picutre is, and the big question is, do you or me see the bigger picture outside our own wants and needs.
Only time will tell. We had our go at the mass meeting and they let us down, those idiots from the central coast / hunter area AND the young one with no brains just looking to get there meal breaks. Shit what do they do when in bed block, don't they get organised into meal breaks etc or is it about the money. If you don't like the heat get out of the kitchen.
Streuth there are number of rural stations that would welcome permanaent officers wishing to relax. Idiots who live where they cannot afford to live and work do not deserve the right to stand up whinge and complain.
Sure sure struggling families doing it hard, cock sucks, last interview I saw with a "struggling family" they a aplasma tv in the corner and a new holden in the driveway. Poofters don't know what struggling is. Again if you cannot afford to live where you ar then move to where you can afford. Rural stations do get work so you won't be run off your feet, fresh air, LIVE ANIMALS, friendly neighbous not out to kill you etc. SHHEEET!! you lot ain't got nuffing to cry about. It your own mess Balance.
Balance its your own choice, put the fuck up or shut the fuck up.
to blogsnott,
And YOUR point IS?
D & D and Bloggsnott,
You guys seem to be freaking, Bloggsnott you even seem a little agitated and angry. As Labor Voter (not) said what’s was your point with your last blog, we would all like to know. Brothers are you afraid that your little world might collapse. Will you both scatter like cockroaches when the light is eventually shone on you?.
Yes indeed time will tell Brothers.
As I said , most ambos are starting to understand, a union is supposed to be for the employees. How can that be in our case when the union is getting paid by people on both sides of the fence. You don’t need to be a Rhodes Scholar to work that one out.
You guys are attacking my position with allot of vigor, saying people are going to think I’m crazy etc. Well that’s generally the tactic when someone speaks out isn’t it.
Why do you seem so worried? Am I on the money? I think so?
Other people are starting to question as well. The system we have at the moment where the rank and file and management are in the same union just does not make sense.
SPIDER
Spider
Do you realise that the nurses' bosses are in the same union?
If you think 'you are on the money...', then obviously you must be. Keep telling yourself that and you will be right.
As for who is scared, I think that you are the one who is scared. I think it, therefore you are.
I do not need or want to know who you are. Actually I prefer not to because then I cannot be disappointed that you may in fact be an ambulance officer who appears to need a lot of support as everyone around you seems to be constantly disappointing you.
Remaining anonymous is the only defence you have left besides resigning from your employer and/or union.
Yes i agree with spider.There is no balance.how can they be when everyone is out for their own agenda.
I dont think you are crazy,what you are is a realist.
You to can see what is going on and is also synical person.Well so am I, and proud of it.
People like us very rarely get taken for a ride up the garden path.(unless its our kids)
If Labour get into Fed Gov there will be no balance.It only ever happened in this country once before and the public were screaming.
just like last Fed Election when Howard got control of the Senate.
IR Laws etc etc,
But we will triump in 3 years if the Liberal Party gain control of the state.Then we will have balance and a union that will be happy to stand up for us.Watch all the bans go on then.The union will be begging us to put bans on,,,anythink to get back at the liberal party.
the oppurtunity has now gone (24/11/07) to make the public aware and for those of you who still have faith in the Union well..........I still think Santa Clause is real too!!!!
I guess getting on and whinging only makes you feel better for awhile or it makes you feel you are contributing to what is a lost cause.
But for you country people out there,yes you do make a heap of money,but they have to pay you that to keep you out there.Unless you come from these country areas first.
As for us city folk well people out here need a Ambulance svc to,so to me your oppion of city folk shows me that you are really out there for your own agenda,just like the HSU,Labour and Managment !!!!!
DENNIS.R.
and yes B.W.S.B did put a heap of resignations in on Thursday,before anyone asks!!!!
D & D,
Did you know the police once in a “ranked” position change to a different union for obvious reasons. Ever heard of the ICAC and some of their initiatives instigated within Police years ago. No I expect not.
You criticize me and become emotional but you didn’t have the initiative to give your interpretation of our system.
Try not to be so emotional, make an argument. That’s what this forum is all about.
Please read a newspaper, do some of your own research. Maybe get out and about and talk to a few ambos that know what is really going on.
You will need to do this before you earn and credibility with me or allot of other people in this forum.
SPIDER
Dennis R.
Thanks for your support. I can’t believe how many dummies we have in this job.
SPIDER
Does anyone have a nice garlic prawn recipe?
Spider,
were you able to get the attention of the media.
e.g ACA and today tonight /Oh Barry O'farrell seems to have abit to say lately about Labour.Maybe he's a better option than Jillian!
and yes we have alot of dunnies in the Svc or are they just in denial
no proberly both
DENNIS.R
LOOK !
it is as simple as this.... if HSU has access to ALL of our work email email addresses (which i know they do, due to all the useless shit i recieve whenever i log on... and they dont believe that the majority are unhappy, then i challenge you Mr williamson... NO I DARE YOU.... to email everyone and ask a simple question... " are you happy with the service you are paying for " and then have the balls to publish the results with union membership numbers in sirens of one of your stupid emails !
I BET YOU DONT.... and you know why you wont... because the answer would be a resounding NO !
Yes it is as simple as that ! one email to all... one push of a button and we will all know the truth once and for all ! GO ON.... I DARE YOU.
There how do you like that one spider and dennis >
Yes Mr Williamson. How about asking members if they are happy with HSU. Sounds pretty simple but you WONT do it because you already know the answer.And that would be a resounding NO. What a piss weak joke of a union!!!
how would one be able to find out exactly how many ambulance members there are?
could you do it through the freedom of imformation?
But if the answer is no by all members ,why is there still members?
Why do people give their hard earn money away to places like the union?
When they are not happy with the svc
If you were in a resturant and got a steak that was off,,,,, you wouldn't pay for it would you?
Do Ambos feel so undervalued that they cling to somethink that is not working and never will?
Is it tradition that makes people do this?
Maybe i can get a grant from the Government and study this sort of behavier.
I find it bezzarre!!!!!!!
Sponge Bob Square Pants
DENNIS.R,
Nothing to report as yet. I'll let you know.
Anonymous,
As for why we are forced to stay with HSU when most members are unhappy. We don’t get a choice, HSU have a monopoly going. Your either in or your out and they know it. If your out your classed as a scab and management can make things very difficult for you especially if you speak out....trust me.
About 20 years ago the same thing happened, ambos tried to drop HSU, HAREA then. For similar reasons, inaction , conflict of interest - having management in the same union.
Management (paying HSU members) started a fear campaign, if ambos left HSU they would lose nearly all their entitlements and would have to start from scratch with someone else.
The majority of ambos where intimidated and believed it, so nothing happened. Ask some of the oldies in the job, they may remember.
SPIDER
Well come on Michael we're
waiting. PUSH the button. I DARE YOU!!!!.
If you're right about support for HSU and I'm wrong,then I'll become one of your top union delegates.
Public assasination of people using their names and not revealing yours.
= coward!
Spider,
Where do you get your facts from?
"most members are unhappy" with HSU?
Pulling that one out your arse are you.
There are some real intellectual giants in this forum using my name again, oh dear. No worries back to using an alias. I am actually quite flattered that the union and management thugs are so interested in what I have to say.
It really doesn’t matter anyway what name I use, allot of people are still reading this forum with great interest, just as you weirdo’s are.
We will still get our message out, real ambos will make their own mind up in time.
Buy for now .
SPIDER
I have pissed off already. Faxed off my resignation from HSU on the 15th. Should have done it years ago!!! HSU aren't going to do anything for you.
Hello everyone. Not sure if this has been posted yet.. but if you are looking to change unions my I suggest that we look at the LHMU. They are the Liquor, Hospitality and Miscellaneous workers union. They currently look after the Victorian (MAS and RAV), Queensland, WA and NT. They have plenty of info on the website and they seem to be a proactive union. I'm sure this has been mentioned before but HSU doesn't care about the Ambo's cause we are too few in number. here is the link to LHMU..
http://lhmu.org.au/ambulance/
Spider,
what makes you think its management or union thugs?
Maybe its just that I know you and think you are a knob.
Spider impersonator (last comment),
Well said. Very articulate, you made some very interesting and objective comments. You have dazzled us all with your insight into the problem of having management in our union as well.
Very good continue on, you should use a name like “the enlightened one” on this blog.
Stupid Is as Stupid Does (Forrest Gump)
Ummm ...
Seeing how i don't get told anything about what 'my union' is up to, i thought i would post what 'another' union is up to ...
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AEA-V Bulletin: General Members Meeting (MAS Members Only)
14 November 2007
TUESDAY, 11 DECEMBER 2007 AT 1900 HOURS
[Doors open at 1830 hours]
Join the LHMU Ambulance Union (Ambulance Employees Australia) today - click to join online!
AT VICTORIAN TRADES HALL - NEW COUNCIL CHAMBERS (CNR. VICTORIA AND LYGON STREETS, CARLTON SOUTH)
AGENDA:
Morale
Workload/Caseload/Resourcing
Dispatch Grid
Meal Breaks
Rosters
MICA
Part Time Employment
Vehicle Life Limits
Clinical Instructors' Workload
Be there and have your say. It is important.
Proxy forms can be downloaded here.
Steve McGhie
General Secretary
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shows you what a joke the hsu is
Read what other people have decided to do instead of being gutless wonders like the HSU ...
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Rail managers condemn RailCorp in Ad
City Rail station managers and duty managers have condemned RailCorp management as incapable of running the train system in a full-page advertisement in a Sydney newspaper.
The managers from 171 CityRail stations said their jobs were getting harder and they did not have confidence in RailCorp to improve services, in the open letter to be published in The Daily Telegraph on Monday.
"We do not have any confidence that RailCorp senior management are able to manage the rail system or deliver the necessary leadership to meet commuter expectation," the advertisement says.
"Station managers (and) duty managers supported by station staff have decided to take this unprecedented step and speak directly to NSW rail commuters.
"For the past four years our jobs have become increasingly difficult as senior management withdraw funding and resources from frontline workers.
"The NSW government must intervene and address the current crisis in public transport and customer service."
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Good on you guys for standing up and fighting ... unlike our gutless union. Would not want to rock the election boat eh HSU ?
I 'm sorry I seem to have missed out on what you have tried to achieve with this site.
Spider if its you who I know, then you are one of the biggest Labor AND union supporters ever. yet some of your comments tell me your-a-changing fella. some fo your comments are for then others are against whatz da go joe
I 'm sorry I seem to have missed out on what you have tried to achieve with this site.
Spider if its you who I know, then you are one of the biggest Labor AND union supporters ever. yet some of your comments tell me your-a-changing fella. some fo your comments are for then others are against whatz da go joe
Spider your a turn coat
With apologies to our Rail friends ...
I say that we run our own ad and remove certain key words, replacing them with ones of our own ...
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AMBULANCE OFFICERS condemn UNION AND MANAGEMENT in Ad
AMBULANCE OFFICERS have condemned THEIR UNION AND MANAGEMENT as incapable of running the AMBULANCE system in a full-page advertisement in a Sydney newspaper.
The OFFICERS from NSW stations said their jobs were getting harder and they did not have confidence in THEIR UNION AND MANAGEMENT to improve services, in the open letter to be published in The Daily Telegraph on Monday.
"We do not have any confidence that OUR UNION AND MANAGEMENT are able to manage the AMBULANCE system or deliver the necessary leadership to meet PATIENT expectation," the advertisement says.
"AMBULANCE OFFICERS have decided to take this unprecedented step and speak directly to NSW PATIENTS.
"For the past four years our jobs have become increasingly difficult as senior management withdraw funding and resources from frontline workers.
"The NSW government must intervene and address the current crisis in AMBULANCE transport and customer service."
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Yeh but no but yeh but no but yeh, but no.
Damm the Rivers,
Come on, you can do better that that surely.
SPIDER
Judge when are we going to have some imput from you again?
Rodger Rabbit,...
Your message would probably mean something if you knew me.
Unfortunately I don’t know anyone by the name Rodger Rabbit.
Sorry.
SPIDER
Hey some really good coments
Road Runner Beep Beep you get the blood going through my main organ.
I think it would be good if we all got together and resigned from the HSU.
Then contact DO Mitchell out at Broken Hill and we all should join her Union (Management Dominated) with all her merry women the two SO's and the minority(other plebs) who all suffer from Parasitic Glossitis.
We would see what its like to be screwed well and truly.
Then you would all know what it is like to have arse full of hamorrhoids hanging out day in day out. Now I have Paralytic Incontinence since I started working there.
So lets give this ago.
Backdoor DM
What happened to the 4% pay. are we getting it or not. I want to be able to afford christmas.
I thought it was being paid as a start of ongoing payments. So has some sub branches decided to against it or what
I would sooner have something now with a promise of more later than a promise some later. The uniform issue springs to mind as an example here.
I DONT HEAR YOU MICHAEL ???
c'mon .... you have the technology at your disposal (ie. asnsw email) .... to show us once and for all, that you have the support of the majority ! just one click of your finger, its as simple as that. You need only to post an email with a reply required tag to each and everyone of us asking one simple question ... "ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THE SERVICES YOU ARE PAYING FOR" and then publish the results !
WHATS STOPPING YOU MICHAEL
uummmm !
WOW ...
You guys should really check out this LHMU union site.
Now this is the sort of union we need to be in !
http://lhmu.org.au/ambulance/
shows you what a real union is doing. shows you what a complete farce HSU is.
I agree completely. HSU - you are all corrupt and a joke of a union. Please can we go to the Vic union above. At least they fight for clinical issues as well. I hope you all rot in hell HSU.
Waste of 21 dollars said...
Well come on Michael we're
waiting. PUSH the button. I DARE YOU!!!!.
HERE HERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LHMU - I don't know
"Spiralling emergency response times shows ambulance system in deep crisis". This is the head lines on the above web site.
Is this wht we want. This looks like the same shit different location.
Don't forget Victoria has alot of private ambulances running around doing our jobs, how soon before we are fighting for jobs like they do in yanky land. How long before making sure the patient has the ability to pay the bill before being treated. One thing the HSU has done is to stop the spread of privitisation of our profession.
Lets not take the jump just yet get the research going first. LHMU, like HSU is connected to cleaners too. Check out there web site
LHMU - UNIONVILLE
Discount Holidays for Members
The LHMU can offer its NSW members affordable accomodation at The Haven, Sussex Inlet, on the NSW South Coast. The holiday cottages are available all year. Just ring the Union office on (02) 8204 7204 to check availablity.
Got this from the LHMU site. Is Sussex inlet the have of unionist or what. Take a holiday with your family to unionville. NOT
LaborNET Sites
Workers Online
ACTU
NZCTU
Unions NSW
LHMU is just another site connected to the Labor party. can we trust this shit. NO just a sheep in wolfs clothing
VIC Trades Hall Council
Vic Union Health & Safety Network
Unions WA
UNIONSAFE
Union Teach
Bosswatch
Unions on LaborNET
Evatt Foundation
South Coast Labor Council
LHMU
LHMU members in NSW
LHMU members in NSW
The 42,000 LHMU members in New South Wales come from many different industries and backgrounds.
These industries include:
Clubs, hotels, casinos and catering
Cleaning and security
Childcare, home care, education and health
Baking, food, paint and manufacturing
In NSW, LHMU members are covered by over 30 awards and almost 60 enterprise agreements.
If you want to know more about your industry, contact your branch
God do we want to be associated with these people.
Annonymous
Re: God do we want to be associated with these people.
I really don't care what union we go to just as long as management is not in it as well.
Hopefully when Greg Rochford makes his report from the executive, to accompany the other investigation that's going on at the moment, he might make mention of the destabilising effects of having the rank and file and management in the same union.
Go Greg you good thing
SPIDER
Made contact with the Vic AEA several weeks ago. They do not have the capacity to look after NSW officers. Sorry, but this is not an option. Feel free to contact them if you wish.
come on Williamson..... i would like to see that too ! Why wont you do it ??? if HSU are doing such a good job and everyone is so happy with the results they are getting then you should be proud of the organisation that you are running !
Then of course on the other hand, if a good majority of us are VERY pisssed off and have no confidence whatsoever in this corrupt farce of an organisation, you are running then you are going to have some explaining to do !!!
Wake up guys... the very fact that HSU is even able to use the managements computer network.... has got to tell you something !
it is all well and good to blame HSU guys
But do you think that Roachford and his band of suits might have something to do with it?
If the management of our organisation had any brains and gave a rats arse about patient care, response times, bed block, lousy equipment and production line training do you think we would even need HSU?
How about we throw some blame where it is really due?
Why does Roachford block every pay claim?
Why does Roachford let hospital delays happen?
Why do the suits run OUR service?
Why cant injured workers get some empathy and basic justice?
If you want corruption, nepotism, vindictiveness, and an orgainsation based on fear look no further than executive alley at rozelle.
Put the BLAME where it belongs.
And remember Roachford was a gonner until he called in his LABOUR mates and got himself bailed out.
ANd now you have Willis sucking up to the HSU to cover his arse.
Sack the lot of them. but thats not likely to happen with this "review" that Reba put together, now is it?
It makes a whitewash look positively gray in comparison.
Ok, i have re-worded the ad. So how about this then -
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AMBULANCE OFFICERS condemn MANAGEMENT in Ad
AMBULANCE OFFICERS have condemned THEIR MANAGEMENT as incapable of running the AMBULANCE system in a full-page advertisement in a Sydney newspaper.
The OFFICERS from NSW stations said their jobs were getting harder and they did not have confidence in THEIR MANAGEMENT to improve services, in the open letter to be published in The Daily Telegraph on Monday.
"We do not have any confidence that OUR MANAGEMENT are able to manage the AMBULANCE system or deliver the necessary leadership to meet PATIENT expectation," the advertisement says.
"AMBULANCE OFFICERS have decided to take this unprecedented step and speak directly to NSW PATIENTS.
"For the past four years our jobs have become increasingly difficult as senior management withdraw funding and resources from frontline workers.
"The NSW government must intervene and address the current crisis in AMBULANCE transport and customer service."
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So, how about it? Got the courage people ... ? Probably not ...
Don't forget to add that we have increased our skills and have more responsability with no extra pay.
Well come on Michael we're
waiting. PUSH the button. I DARE YOU!!!!.
Annonymous,
If what you say is true and HSU do have access to managements computers. Surely that has to be an ethical issue.
Other Annonymous,
Why does Roachford block every pay claim?
I don’t know if it is up to him, I think it maybe up to Health. HSU don’t give us any info on it so it’s difficult to make a judgement.
Why does Roachford let hospital delays happen?
Rochford does not administer the Hospitals.
Why do the suits run OUR service?
No. Senior “Uniformed” managers run our service. Rochford supports and lobbies for their needs through government.
Why cant injured workers get some empathy and basic justice?
GIO employ psycholgoists etc “hatchet men” to undermine our claims. Keeps them in a job if you know what I mean.
UNETHICAL PRACTICES FOR DUMMIES 101
Is Williamson the State Secretary for HSU.....YES
Are Senior Management (Uniformed) in HSU.....YES
Are Ambulance Officers in HSU.....YES
Is Williamson therefore the State Secretary for both parties.....YES
How can ambos be given fair and impartial and representation when they stand for/represent parties on both side of the fence?
SPIDER
If what you say is true and HSU do have access to managements computers. Surely that has to be an ethical issue.
Other Annonymous,
Why does Roachford block every pay claim?
HE IS IN CHARGE, HE CAN RECOMMEND A RISE
Why does Roachford let hospital delays happen?
ROACHFORD ADMINISTERS OUR SERVICE, HE IS A HEALTH CEO WITH THE SAME POWER AS AREA HEALTH CEOS SURELY HE CAN COMPLAIN
Why do the suits run OUR service?
No. Senior “Uniformed” managers run our service. Rochford supports and lobbies for their needs through government.
NOT SO, THE HIGHEST UNIFORMED MANAGER IS WILLIS, WHO REPORTS TO ROACHFORD IN CASE YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN
Why cant injured workers get some empathy and basic justice?
GIO employ psycholgoists etc “hatchet men” to undermine our claims. Keeps them in a job if you know what I mean.
THE CEO CAN ORDER GIO TO DO THINGS TO SPEED UP AND OTHERWISE FACILITATE A CLAIM. HE CHOOSES NOT TO DO SO
WHY IS IT THAT YOU SUPPORT ROACHFORD ALL THE TIME AND BAG OUT OUR UNION???????????
Labor Voter (Not)
"Our Union" No. Senior Uniformed Management's Union.
spider,
I wouldn't worry too much, the superintendents subbranch is a joke.
They are even more disorganised than we are. Mostly they sit around waiting with their cv's for the next round of restructures.
Then you can watch them crawl over the bodies of all the comrades they have stabbed in the back to get a chance of one more shiny star for more work with less pay .
Sorry I should not have said work.
they havent had a pay rise in 6 years, they keep getting more and more "responsibility" as their numbers dwindle and their areas grow in size and staff, while the suits multiply like lemmings
maybe if they really were lemmings they will one day soon get the urge to jump off a cliff and save our service
Labour Voter (Not) said...
maybe if they really were lemmings they will one day soon get the urge to jump off a cliff and save our service
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Smartest thing i've read all week.
They need to look at positions that have and are created in Rozelle especially for Uniformed ambos ( and we are not talking senior ambos) who dont like the road suddenly getting a big paying job under some fancy title. How does one justify such positions and does the same process apply when they are being appointed????
Backdoor DM
I think it would be great if we all joined the Broken Hill union. That DO Mitchell with her freak show of confidants could really sell us all out big time for their own personal gain and favouritism/nepotism. It would be perfect.
Spider and Dennis R., you should give that DO a call and get back to us all on this site seeing as the LHMU turned out to be a dud.
0.5 Droppa
well Mrs Willis you would know, going from civilian call taker to superintendent gr3 in less than 3 years.
Hubby gave a bit of a hand did he.
Probably needs the money in the household for his Mc Mansion
the following is one of the best and honest blogs i have seen on this site...
If you don’t agree with the direction the HSU takes you have bugger all chance of changing it short of a riot. Those at the top aim to stay there with some aiming at a shot at politics. Heirs are already annointed and unless they drop of the perch, that’s how it stays.
The Ambulance Service of NSW would be in the IRC every other day if management did not try to form some kind of alliance with HSU. This is where your corrupt sub-branch delegates come in.
HSU is supposed to be for the ambos interests and therefore charge us fees. If they’re getting paid by both sides how can that be in an ambos best interest. We need management out of HSU now! In fact we need another union. ONE THAT NOT CORRUPT.
The conflict of interest is obvious. HSU needs to be exposed for what it is. Scam-artists of the highest order. I can’t wait for ACA and Today Tonight to start running stories on dodgy sub-branch executives and the fact that ambos are in the same union as their bosses.
And if this is not true.... i say once again... all michael williamson has to do is email everyone in HSU with a reply requested tag and ask a simple question... ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THE SERVICES YOU ARE PAYING FOR
....YES OR NO !
COME ON HSU ... IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND EVERYONE IS HAPPY, THEN PRESS THE BUTTON AND PUBLISH THE RESULTS !
....BET YOU BLOODY DONT !
for all you people who are so unhappy.I hope you have put in your resignations already.
Its not to late you know.Each day they get one,thats 21 dollars less afortnight to give to the Labour Party!!!!!!!
Also it might be better to find out how many have actually left in the last 6 months.
Iam sure someone knows someone in the right place at HSU !!!!!!
Well maybe you all should of listen to DENNIS.R,and got them in last week!
Now its really time for unity or we will just have to wait for 3 years untill we get rid of State Labour.
Then I would like to see what Mr.M.Williamson will do.
DENNIS.R.
Sponge Bob to my friends @@@@@@@@
Well Mrs.Willis you know first hand what curruption is.
Having experienced it yourself.
How does it feel to be married to someone who is just a loser.How does it feel to have your best buddy (greg.R. baby)so close to you?
Well your OK JACK!!!!!!!!!
I dont know how you sleep at night,proberly very well I guess.
Butternut Pumkin !!!!
dear Backdoor DM
good that you bag out Broken Hill's TEU.
I can nly think of one person who would
is that you GRAHAM EDWARDS, arch stooge and management ass kisser from way back?
Labor Voter (not)
Re: I wouldn't worry too much, the superintendent’s subbranch is a joke. They are even more disorganized than we are. Mostly they sit around waiting with their cv's for the next round of restructures.
I guess that’s why some superintendents flatter those above with the intention of getting something. I think the term is “brown nose”.
Superintendents have far more political clout with HSU than we do, remember HSU is a politically motivated hierachy. It is very closely affiliated to the NSW Labor Council with Williamson the Deputy President of the NSW Labour Party. Thats why HSU are not pushing our wage claim to hard prior to an election with a labour government in power.
It would be reasonable to say then that Superintendents obtain a very clear advantage over us by the very nature of their position and influence they can exert within the service.
Sure superintendents haven’t had a pay rise in a while but when they do I bet percentage wise it will be far greater than ours. HSU will make sure “the minders” are taken care of.
SPIDER
yeo:
is that someone bagging out edwards
fucking a
worst fucking sub branch president in history but he got wot he wanted and left the rest of us out west totally fucked
Annonymous,
Re: the following is one of the best and honest blogs i have seen on this site...
Thankyou
SPIDER
Spider,
I'm REALLY starting to wonder about you boyo
The superintendents are an irrelevance as far as HSU is concerned, there are probably only 2 who ever turn up to meetings now that the brothers have all been sacked by your mate Greg Roachford.
Get a life and get off the idiot supers they couldn't influence a card game run by 3 year olds.
It is GREG who is the source of all evil, and willis, and now we now all know his missus (thanks anonmyous) who is just about to be promoted to grand pooba of all the suits
Mick will have to get promoted again or move back overseas so he can promote his wife to PM
Where is ICAC in all this, or are they still doing over the commissioner of corrective services for promoting his driver?
Come on Ms Skinner this is real juicy stuff
Well simply put this blog site has lost its oomph. Now there are just louts hanging onto the right to slag each other, time to move on C Ya loossserssssss
Labor Voter (not)
Re: Get a life and get off the idiot supers they couldn't influence a card game run by 3 year olds.
How many sub branch delegates do you know that are acting in a Superintendants position. Management and a union delegate?.
I know quite a few.
I guess your right....nothing going on there.
SPIDER
Spider,
Well why didn't you say so, I was talking about real superintendents.
Ok then name the bastards who are "acting" and on an executive, we will all roll out the tumbrel cart and take them to madam guillotine for a haircut
Labor Voter (not)
Even though there is an obvious conflict of interest there. I don't think it would be fair for the world to see their names on this blog. Unethical, and that's not what I'm about.
SPIDER
Spider,
Laudable, but YOU were the one who raised the issue, back it up
Labor Voter (not)
No I won’t name them. Not the sort of thing I do. Maybe if your interested you could make your own inquiries. I would expect HSU and management would be jumping over fences to let you know.
Probably the most important point I was trying to make is that there are no rules or restrictions, that I know of, for this sort of thing to happen.
SPIDER
I can feel another enquiry coming on
I have a question for you all.
What happens if Kevin Rudd takes over the states hospital system?
Do we then become Federal?
Are we able to go under Emergency Svc?
Are we able to leave the HSU with no problems at all leaving?
These are just a few questions you all should be thinking about,instead of the crap thats on here lately.
DENNIS.R.
Do you lot know that Greg Rochford did a ride a long with Naremburn IC last night? He went home at midnight. Fortunately RNSH was crap and he got stuck for a while. Someone asked him about our new uniforms and he was surprised that we hadn't all filled out our sizing charts yet, obviously has know idea.
Also heard last night that the uniforms are all sitting in a wharehouse somewhere ready to go out but the union has blocked them due to some fault. Why is this on the grapevine and not being reported by either side?
Spider,
there are a few D/O's in exectutive positions but there are definately no supers.
I have read many of your blogs. There is alot of unsubstantiated tripe in your comments.
It is sensationalist to say the least.
Ps. I am not a union thug or management. I have noticed when people disagree with you, you always throw that little one in.
Dennis.R.
havent read the blog for a while, its good to see your still being a dickhead.
The only crap I read is from you Dennis.R.
Chass michael michaels,
Re: It is sensationalist to say the least.
When I make a comment I try to explain my reasoning behind what I say, you can take it or leave it, it's up to you.
You said the comments are sensationalist but you didn't explain why. I think you need to make an argument present your thoughts that's what this forum is all about.
What are your thoughts about officers forced to work rosters were they respond single? (Two officers stations). This is definately against HSU policy and certainly OH&S as well.
No one, including HSU, seems to care about these officers welfare and safety, let alone patient care. I'd be interested in yours thoughts.
SPIDER
Chass michael michaels,
I do stand corrected my sincere apologies.
I did mean to say sub branch executives acting up in D/O's positions.
My sincere apologies
SPIDER
How much does it suck being in a union that is a absolute joke? Especially seeing it is almost impossible to get out of! Corruption at the highest levels at both NSW Level and National. I ask every member to have a think at just how much we are neglected by this union. That 4% pay rise almost makes me feel sick. Heaven help us come April/May next year! I still can't believe you members, don't want to escalate industrial action in regards to getting our pay claim brought forward. It will almost be 4 years since it stated. We should be going for at least 50% by then. Surely there are many of us that want to move on this. Please write to your local newspapers and senior citizens and inform them of our pathetic situation. Dont forget Williamson and Craig Thomson are both at the top oyf our union and doing bugger all for us.
Why dont these guys do ride alongs with Primary Care vehicles????
And the uniform ....If it is in a warehouse because of a union issue, why has HSU or sub branches notified its members of the problem?
Typo should be NOT Notified
Supers are the best thin to happen to this service.
Some one has to be charge because you lot couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. All of your comments are evidence to that. None of you can agree on any one thing that would be plausable enogh to say you would would do well in control of toy boat ina bath tub.
I recon that spider and maybe 3-4 others are writting multiple comments on both sides of the fence.
Over 1100 comments on shit. Spider your a ledgend in your own mind. Good luck buddy with your own allusions
Annonymous,
Re: comments on shit
You want to know something pathetic yet funny, your actually taking the time to read my "comments on shit". (That's the pathetic part.) The funny part is that I'm sitting in front of the computer screen... laughing.
Spider
Most would not be laughing at the size of your penis if they saw you at your computer naked, they actually would be crying.
Get it over and done with, go to Broken Hill, they really need another freak like you to join their management team. They would be impressed with your inginuity
Do yourself and the rest of us a huge favour, give 'em a call. I even hear they have the internet there. Only dial-up though.
Spider,
The sensationalist comments you make are numerous.
That supers are exectutive are sub-branches. Not True.
That HSU doesnt care about single A/O stations. In my area there is no such thing as a single response. I am rural, this is due to the good work from our sub-branch and united members.
Do those officers at single stations do thier bit? What I mean is do they sit on scene waiting for backup or do they call it off so they get a quicker callout?
Do they IIMS every single response they do, under OH&S, under the highest SAC rating so it goes to the premier.
There are many things that can be done by the A/O, if they are truly that passionate.
You also state most members are unhappy with HSU. I believe this to false. There are really only a few people commenting on this blog. It is hardly mandate for change especially since most comments are anonymous.
Good luck with your crusade though, you seem to have alot of people arguing with your point of view.
I've only been an ambo 5mins but have worked in 3/4 divisions. I've also been involved with numerous health services and have seen a lot of different sides.
The way I see it it's simple. Bring back the paperwork bans and if they don't respond give them 2 weeks notice and threaten to ban all 'non-emergency' work. It's not much but we all know it would bring the health system to it's knees. It would significantly increase hospital waiting times and lose the service a lot of money. No one gets hurt and the public as well as the gov't see how much of an impact we really do make.
Let's stop the whinging and pull together and do something!
Now I will wait and see which of the idiots abusing this blog shoots me down in a manner that embarrases us all...
to real ambo
i don't know if its possible but maybe you should make it so you need a bundy number and pw to enter this site. if i was a member of the public reading the stuff some ppl are writing id think twice about supporting our cause. just a suggestion.
Upper Hunter Ambo,
yes you are right i will shoot you down. You obviously have about 5 minutes knowledge too.
Once we voted to stop the bans at the mass meeting it left us high and dry. So we just have to deal with that.
Industrial bans now would put the IRC offside as well as the public.
Its the IRC who decide our fate. Not HSU, not the ASNSW, not health.
We need to put our obvious strong case together, present it well and it will take care of itself.
upper hunter ambo,
i will confirm your statement, you seem like a dickhead.
Upper Hunter Ambo
Personally I think it's a really great idea.
Only problem is selling it to those subbranches who don't have a functioning/agenda based/biased/seeking favour with management/seeking favour with HSU/seeking favour with Kevin 07/weak/pathetic executive.
Then of course you/they would have to actually get all the lazy/too busy/couldn't be bothered/have to wash my hair/good show on TV/etc ambos to turn up to a meeting to vote for the fucking idea.
Then you/they would have to convince Williamson and HSU to forget the federal election for 5 minutes to ratify it.
I REALLY wish you luck
Re: Anonymous at 12:40
I rest my case...
To upper Hunter Ambo,
At the last Delegates meeting some delegates tried to get the bans on.But to no avail.
Why you ask,well its like this,Yours and many many other Delegates didnt want to step on the toes of Williamsons and Kevin's toes thats why.
Nothing will be done untill next year and then still nothing will be done then.
So my advise is wait till the next state election and vote out Labour and then you may have a chance.!
As for the work value pay claim,well that is already being looked at to be changed or things added to it,so next May when it goes to the IRC they will come up with an excuse of,,,,,,
We need more information,Or the svc does not agree with this,Or we need more days in court,even though the HSU has 15 days booked for May 08.
Which one of the options do you think they will take?
There is nothing anyone can do now.
You can all leave the HSU,but that wont get rid of Williamson,you can sack your delegates,but what is the point of that you cant get pass GO,from the HSU.
Give up,and go home,thats what I reakon.
All the whinging will not change a thing,save your energy,,,,Or you could always have another Mass Meeting,but who will organise that and who will bother to go!!!!!!!
Penny Farthing
upper hunter ambo,
you are probably relpying to your own blogs, like every other fuckwit on ths blog/joke!
To Not Nieve
why do you bother to reply on this blogg in the first place dickhead!!!
Oh thats right you are one of HSUs stooges.Oops I forgot just how intimidated the HSU is over this Blogg,its a wonder they haven't tried to Ban it.
They certainly dont want to Ban anything that might be good for us!!!!!!!!!
Penny Farthing
I think a little summary might be in order. Those with opposing views feel free.
P1 upgrade with no renumeration for officers. HSU has done nothing!
No policy on Critical Incident Stress? HSU has done nothing!
No opportunities at rural stations yo advance to Level 5. HSU has done nothing!
The Level 4/5 upgrade promised 7 years ago. HSU has done nothing!
The high suicide and attempted suicide rate amongst officers that is well exceeds the national
average. HSU has done nothing!
Three consecutive appauling corporate culture surveys. HSU has done nothing!
It is a basic requirement that employers must provide a healthy & safe workplace. There are still stations in the state with rosters where officers are forced to work alone! HSU has done nothing!
HSU accepted the 4% and sacraficed the moral victory we were on the way to winning. Most members were not even given a chance to vote.
Management are in our union. How can ambos get a fair go when HSU represents parties on both sides of the fence.
Williamson is the senior vice president for the NSW labour party and has no intention of going in hard over our wage claim while labour is in power.
Craig Thompson is a Federal Labour Candidate and also the National Secretary for Health Services Union, again will not go in hard over our wage claim while labour is in power.
to the messiah
the IRC couldnt give a rats arse about how matters come before them.
How many cases do you reckon they get lumped with after industrial bans, etc since labor got into power in NSW and the union movement stopped complaining, 200, 400, 600?
We need our day(s) in court, we should have been in 2 years ago and would have been if it wasnt for HSU rooting around spending our money in handouts to labor, smooching the delegates and having lovely long conferences to sweet talk them.
But it aint their fault, it's the stooges who allow themselves to get smooched, our elected delegates, who are to blame for this mess.
If they had any moral backbone they would all resign and never stand again.
They wont tho, too much power, too many hand outs from darling greg's appointed "managers" keeping the little darlings quiet.
ANd who is the total arsehole who claims sign up fees for suckering in the new recruits into HSU.
If I ever find that fuck his head will ring for a month.
and wot would the troopies think of all this....er....er.....er gee someone tell me wots happening
poor old spider:
P1 upgrade with no renumeration for officers. GREG has done nothing!
No policy on Critical Incident Stress? GREG has done nothing!
No opportunities at rural stations yo advance to Level 5. GREG has done nothing!
The Level 4/5 upgrade promised 7 years ago. GREG has done nothing!
The high suicide and attempted suicide rate amongst officers that is well exceeds the national
average. GREG has done nothing!
Three consecutive appauling corporate culture surveys. GREG DOESNT CARE, NOR WOULD HE IF THE SURVEY WAS DONE ON ASNSW!
It is a basic requirement that employers must provide a healthy & safe workplace. There are still stations in the state with rosters where officers are forced to work alone! GREG IS HAPPY TO KILL YOU ALL AS LONG AS YOU DON'T BLEED OVER HIS NICE CARPET OR YOUR RELATIVES ASK POLLIES TO ASK DIFFICULT QUESTIONS IN PARLIAMENT!
HSU accepted the 4% and sacraficed the moral victory we were on the way to winning. Most members were not even given a chance to vote.
GREG CAN KEEP HIS BUDGET IF YOU DONT GET A RISE AND HE CAN EMPLOY EVEN MORE SUITS TO KISS HIS ASS.
Management are in our union. How can ambos get a fair go when HSU represents parties on both sides of the fence.GREG DOESN'T CARE HE JUST MAKES LESS AND LESS UNIFORMED MANAGERS AT EVERY RE-STRUCTURE AND PUTS MORE AND MORE SUITS ON THE PAYROLL. HE COULDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR CAREER PATH, YOU AIN'T IN ACHSE.
Williamson is the senior vice president for the NSW labour party and has no intention of going in hard over our wage claim while labour is in power.GREG WILL NEVER GO IN HARD FOR YOUR WAGES OR ANYTHING ELSE AS LONG AS HE GETS PAID.
Craig Thompson is a Federal Labour Candidate and also the National Secretary for Health Services Union, again will not go in hard over our wage claim while labour is in power. AND GREG WON'T EITHER, HE HAS EVEN BETTER LABOUR STOOGES TO KEEP HIS HEAD ABOVE WATER AND BAIL HIM OUT WHENEVER HE FUCKS UP
Labor Voter (not)
Naughty Naughty Labor Voter (not)......you shold always tell the truth.
That way Labor Voter (not), you don't have to remember what you said.
SPIDER
A culture of intimidation and coercion is rife in the service thanks to being associated with the HSU. We need to keep on challenging this boys club of nepotism and coercion which is at the expense of all honest ambos.
A union should be there for the purpose of improving an employees economic status and working conditions, through collective bargaining, between the employee and his/her employer.
How can we achieve this when the employer and the employee are represented by the same union?.
It just doesn't make sense. How can we continue on with this system when HSU represents parties on both sides of the fence?
Probably the most important question is how have they got away with it for so long.
SPIDER
I just dont get it !.. just about everyone i talk to on a daily basis has some bloody horror story of bullying and unfair treatment at work, where their HSU rep has ignored it or done nothing ? duggy the pizza hut boy earns more than most of us and everyone knows that a good percentage of our union fees goes to michael williamsons labour party fund !
wake up !... nothing you write here will ever change that.
I'm hearing you Spider!!!
i'm in the country.
try a total 3 Officers on the roster (yes,TOTAL of 3).
we changed from a total of 2 Officers about 2 yrs ago.......
there was some vague talk about "enhancing" it to 4 Officers.....it'll never happen, they can't even fill other "enhanced" Stations in the zone.....
19 days working & 14 nights on-call out of 28......
imagine that the roster only ever guarantees 1 on-call for 14 out of those 28nights........
i'm living it.
its crap.
they keep forcing young Ambos out here who (understandably) don't want to be here.
they keep leaving.
the Station is s sh*t hole and nobody has the guts to fix it.
there are no incentives to keep you here.
the "points system" is a load of crap.
the uniforms (so far) have been a mess
etc.etc.etc
i'm pissed off and no-one cares.
why the hell did i join???
we are the "most trusted profession".......
can we do a "real" survey of who trusts management (at various levels) and to what extent? it wouldn't be a very pretty pie-chart to put in the corporate culture survey, would it?
signing off, pissed off.....seeya.
To im in the country,
I have been in your situation, and I made the best of it.
I have the feeling you would whinge no matter where you are.
You knew when you joined the job this could happen. That is one of the only things the ASNSW is good at, its telling you where you could end up.
Make the best of it, its all about attitude.
Otherwise harden the fuck up or resign.
Real Ambo ! ....
what about getting an area of this site set up for the cleaners and other hsu members to comment... I doubt if HSU is doing anything for them either !
Lets get them all on board.
If williamson is to scared to survey the discontented massess, then lets bring the massess to him !
Why dont you all just leave the HSU and be done with it.
You all had your chance to have a say,Mass Meeting,get rid of your delegates,that is only the way to go.
If you keep these delegates in power you will never get anywhere.
Stand up and be a delegate,its not that bloody hard.
do something instead of getting on this Blogg and complaining about how bad it is.
Put Bans on.Get together and storm the HSUs office or Yemmas Office.
there are plenty of things to do to get your message across!!!!!!!!!!!
All you need is someone who is happy to stand up and lead you people,storm Jillians office,
take a stand they can't sack every Ambo in NSW!!!!!!
I dont understand how hard you all make it for yourselves.Anyone reading this Blogg would would think you were all under Hitler's rule!!!
We live in Australia for gods sake.
We now have the Internet and faxs,send info around by these modern appliances.
Iam quite sure if someone set a date to meet at Town Hall in Sydney on a certain date,and get the Media to join in you would get a responce.
Try It what have you got to lose.!!!!
Planton and The Krusty Krab Restaurant
a ride along on an IC truck, thats a nice touch Greg.
why dont you join the real world, hop on a GD car on the central coast fri or sat night. you can have some real fun,...get a cas about 10 mins before your shift starts, keep going all night, get spat on , shat on ,threatened and abused all night, arrive back on station about 5:30 in the morning to restock just in time for the renal run.
did someone say Greg actually worked till midnight, now thats a man with dedication.
golly Ricky bobby
You tell it like it is, I bet you are the chair of an OH&S committee
Anonymous,
AMBULANCE OFFICER ASSAULTED AT MERRIWA
I can understand your situation with only 3 on your roster but the guys at Merriwa only have 2 and are forced to work alone rugularly.
One of the officers at Merriwa was assaulted the other day while he was working alone. I don't know what injuries he sustained or if he is back at work yet.
HSU know about it and they have done nothing.
Management know about it and they have done nothing.
Officers from surrounding stations risk their lives backing these single officers up. Closest station 60 km away.
Will an ambulance officer have do die before someone does something about it.
Fuck you HSU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To Planton and The Krusty Krab Restaurant:
VERY well said
Rik Shepherd
TO : AMBULANCE OFFICER ASSAULTED ... mate, Ambulance officers have been taking their own lives !... and the HSU and management do nothing !
I have only one question for you my friend... have you resigned from HSU yet ? and if not, WHY NOT !
I know an Ambo who had a knife at his throat for 2 hrs by some crazy fat person.
Did the Svc care NO,did the HSU care NO,did anyone care NO.
Did the family get any sort of counciling,NO
Did the family hear from anyone of any importance NO,
Did the family have to console the Ambo day and night and reasure the Ambo to get them back on their feet YES.
I can asure you it happens everywhere in every job !!!!!
and I have no solution do you ?
To anon 02:03.
You want some action ?
There are only three things that motivate people into action....
(1) personal and professional integrity.
(2) Fear !
(3) Money and Power !
Now HSU would not even understand the first two, and already have way to much of the third, so i'll give you a guess at how we are going to have to motivate them ???
It's not rocket science guys !
To anos 2:20
OK I need help I can't guess!!!!!!!!
It is ironic how NSW Ambo's are paid less than WA Ambo's yet NSW have more skill.
Planton and The Krusty Krab Restaurant,
Re: Stand up and be a delegate,its not that bloody hard.
Yeah great advice wally, the whole point is the system is corrupt. You say do something instead of getting on this Blogg and complaining about how bad it is. Alot of people are reading this blog for various reasons, the message is getting out there I can assure you.
You also say put Bans on, get together and storm the HSUs office, storm Jillians office,or Yemmas Office, take a stand they can't sack every Ambo in NSW!!!!!!.
Great advice.....are you going to be the one that leads us to victory....are you going to be the one knocking down doors to get our message across.....are you going to be the one that set's a date to meet at Town Hall in Sydney....No!!! of course your not because your full of piss and wind as they say.
I suggest you get back to watching the hilarious adventures of Sponge Bob, Planton and The Krusty Krab Restaurant.
As I said, alot of people are reading this blog for various reasons, the message is getting out there I can assure you.
SPIDER
Anonymous,
Re: It is ironic how NSW Ambo's are paid less than WA Ambo's yet NSW have more skill.
Did you also know every level in the service is about to get maggil forceps. Roll out next year.
Because of the precedence HSU set when they accepted the P1 upgrade without getting any renumeration for officers, the service can now give you more drugs and skills and not have to worry about paying you for it. Thanks again HSU
A P1 does as much as a Level 4 ever did, but at least a level 4 gets an allowance.
SPIDER
For feather's sake, it's
R-E-M-U-N-E-R-A-T-I-O-N.
You people are so uneducated yet you want more money.....go figure.
Greg R.
Well Spider you never stop amazing me.
Have you ever stopped to think that Plankton and the Krusty Krab Resturant might be just one of the public and not an Ambo at all!
No wanker you didn't,,, did you!
Its my son who is an Ambo and finds it very frustrating when its people like you put others down when they bother to get on this Blogg to give support.
Where will you be this sat,I know I will be out with my Grandchildren handing out the bloody "fare go Ambulance" stickers to the public at election boxes.........
Only to get the attention of the public and support my son.
It wont be for the likes of you.
It was my grandson that thought of my cyber name!!! they like Sponge Bob
Bye for now,,,, Plankton and the Krusty Krab Resturant!!!!!!!!
Greg R,
Sorry about that I'm generally a good speller.
How's life in the fast lane?
SPIDER
It'll be even better after this weekend.
Wall to wall labor....WOO HOO!
Greg R.
p.s.
your spelling isn't that great, too many mistakes for me to correct.
Plankton and the Krusty Krab Resturant,
Saturday is no good for me I'll be working.. sorry. You may want to texta in on your "fare go ambulance" stickers "corrupt union in bed with management". That might get peoples attention.
Sorry about taking the piss out of your name. Actually my daugther has been waiting for a sponge bob backpack for about 5 weeks now.
SPIDER
To al,
?1. 4% of HSU memebers and 27% resource use. doesn't balance
?2. 3000 asnsw members = about $1000 per member to at least get some funds together to form a collective.
?3. HSU could bloody well be wanting us to up and leave, we are not that much money to them any ways.
?4. So just who the hell will want take on a group of whinging whinning ambos. It is all about attitude to the customer. Thats right "customer". If the customer is playing up you leave. When they ark up you tell them its 'behave with you or its the police' always works for me and yes I have work by my self on a 1 man station and not that long ago. I even at times looked aftr my town and 3 others while the fucking service sent its staff all over the shop doing jobs. Why because I was dependable, responsible, and capable. I got the job done. Yes I have even worked in a rural really remote station where the nearest ambulance back up was 130kms away,
so don't give me shit about pricks working in pairs and not being able to cope.
Todays ambos have it so much sweeter than I have in the past. Yes I agree the service and the union are both wankers and have done little to help, but sometimes you do get a brief relief when somebody says hey we will and do give you extra staffing or newer cars and equipment.
So hang in there gang your not dead yet. I read a comment before that went something like 'if you cann't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen. There are other places around the state you can live just as there are some strong subbranches.
We cannot afford to move to another union, we cannot afford to set up our own union so we have to make do with what we have. just pressure the bastards to do more. Its a shame that everything centers around the bloody labor party, who will get in on saturday unfortunately. we are just like alot of other professions who are being put through the same shit we are
Don't get me sarted on the spelling and grammar of that last blog.
Greg R.
UNETHICAL PRACTICES FOR DUMMIES 101
Is Williamson the State Secretary for HSU.....YES. Are Senior Management (Uniformed) in HSU.....YES. Are Ambulance Officers in HSU.....YES. Is Williamson therefore the State Secretary for both parties.....YES.
How can ambos be given fair and impartial representation when HSU represent parties on both side of the fence?
Is the sky blue? yes.
This blog truly is a great forum for stating the bleeding obvious. It's a shame that no-one can come up with a useful plan to fix just one problem.
We've proved one thing though, we truly are a bunch of sooks.
Greg R.
well Greg R, you got that right. Sooks is right. There is not one among us that can form a new service and adequately run the ASNSW. SSOOO!! We just have to strongly advise the current bean counters and management about how we feel. Being a boss mans not being able to please everybody all of the time. Plus as a boss there are political and monitary boundaries put in place to which the service must function WITHIN.
Now I do not agree with what is going on either, I do not like being paid less as some would say than a pizza boy, but atleast my hours are regular which means my pay is regular and garrenteed along with many benefits not paid to the pizza boy.
Therefore I know where I really want to be.
As to the bosses and the union. Well It really doesn't matter who is at the top in my 28yrs I have seen many a good person become a boss only to make terrible stuff ups then disappear of the radar. It doesn't matter your good intentions will always come to grieve.
So lets just keep soldiering on with what we have as it ain't ever gunna change
Greg R,
Unfortunately your comments are a contradiction.
You say there are a lot of sooks with no direction in this forum.
Your contributions could be interpreted the same having a sook about everyone complaining but providing no direction or answers yourself.
SPIDER
Dear Labor Voter (Yes)
the 4 top divisional managers are on SES packages dummy, they ARE NOT IN HSU
Hey SPIDER,
Go run a subbranch, go on radio, go on TV, get your pickie in the paper with a good article on how tne service stuffs patients and us around.
You keep on telling everyone to supply direction, use good arguements, provide rational alternatives..
Well?
What are you waiting for, show us the way man, lead us out of egypt into the promised land!!!!
What have YOU sent to MS Skinner??
one more sleep left till the big vote.
except i'll be working 14 hours for 13 hours pay as usual tonight.
but i'll still be telling all my patients what a corrupt mob the labour party are.
"your rights at work", with the labour party and hsu in each others pocket,thats a fucken joke.
SHIT now i've gone and used up all my compassion before i start work tonight.
i just got my mail, a magazine from the hsu. they obviously haven't caught up with resignation advice yet. guess whats in the mag?, nothing but labour party propagander. any info on ambulance officers ? not a thing. hmmmm some things never change.
News just out,
Your beloved HSU will now only represent you if it is workcover.!
So in other words,if you are injured etc,at work and you are seeking a claim well they will represent you,at no cost to you.
If you are in the shit!! it will cost you.
e.g if you are acused of somethink by a patient and you are suspended from work untill an investigation is done,then you will have to find your own legal representaion or you can pay the HSU to represent you.
This fact it came out of the JCC meeting yesterday.
So if you are still in the HSU for legality and protection,think again buddies. You are waisting your time and your money,
good luck suckers!!!!!!!!
If you dont believe me ring the HSU or ask the Managenet that went to a JCC meeting.Thats if they want to tell you the truth!!!!!!!!!!
Wow ! that ever increasing little pile of resignations on williamson's desk will sky rocket now that little one is out of the bag !
That was the only thing keeping me....
BYE !
Do you all think that since we have all been good little union supporting ambo's that when the results are in after Saturday, our union and the State Labor party will let our pay dispute pass with strong pressure and support in our favour. Maybe we are all in for a pleasant surprise come April/May.
Well, interesting news about the lack of legal REPRESENTATION offered to us by that phoney union.
It really is a waste of 21 dollars!!!! Put aside your union fees for your own legal fund.
I told you all it was a waste of money but who is going to listen to DENNIS.R.
Just because ive had 42 yrs of dealings with Governments and unions!!!!!!
Well Iam in front and have been for a very long time.I knew this years ago.
I hate to say it but "I told you so"
DENNIS.R.
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